Akercocke - Amazing Progressive Death!
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Topic: Akercocke - Amazing Progressive Death!
Posted By: Conor Fynes
Subject: Akercocke - Amazing Progressive Death!
Date Posted: April 29 2010 at 21:45
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If anyone of you have heard of Akercocke (I know at least one has and is completely behind me on this) they are a very good British dark metal group. They take death metal and really make a sound their own, incorperating everything from progressive rock to grindcore, but it all sounds cohesive, very heavy, and bloody amazing.
I essentially consider them a British (and satanic, LOL) version of Opeth.
Akercocke - The Dark Inside
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVqeQ7dHw7I&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVqeQ7dHw7I&feature=related
Akercocke - Leviathan (Video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWEvDS0UNsk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWEvDS0UNsk
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Posted By: windir2245
Date Posted: May 02 2010 at 19:04
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I second this suggestion. Akercocke is an extremely progressive band. Very similar to Opeth but more sinister sounding. Here's another couple videos of theirs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzdFTth68pM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzdFTth68pM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lalmm8uF9d0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lalmm8uF9d0
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 06:13
| Thanks, I'll notify the PMT. |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 21:00
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I have supported their inclusion from the beginning (you can see the votes here: [ur;]http://progfreak.com/home/progarchives?path=pm/discuss[/url]), but clearly most people currently or previously on the PMT don't agree with me on this one. I think that their extended compositions and progressive take on death (and even black) metal is worth being on PA, even though they aren't prog in its truest form. I think it's time for us to take a re-evaluation of this band, as one of the current team members is undecided about their addition to the database. I'll let you know if we make any progress as a team.  -Jeff ------------- 
Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 23:43
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Haha, I'm sure I can find some supporting evidence for the ones in favour. |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 14:03
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interesting band indeed, have not really thought of them for inclusion in PA, but you do have a point here |
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 15:05
Quite good thank you! Yes they are prog! But i prefer the instrumentals parts...
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Posted By: Philliam
Date Posted: August 12 2010 at 11:31
| Any word on this? I think it would be good to include them. |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 13 2010 at 12:50
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I would be very happy to see Akercocke included here.
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Posted By: dtd350
Date Posted: August 13 2010 at 19:27
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They should most definitely be in here. They have some excellent stuff and are really the epitome of Progressive Death for me. When I think of Progressive Death...the first band that comes to my mind is definitely Akercoke. I really hope they get accepted (I was surprised to read that they were not in here). ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/dtd350 |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: August 14 2010 at 02:22
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They were rejected the first time around, so all current members of the PMT will have to give their yes votes before Akercocke is accepted. The voting process on the PMT is very slow at the moments as we currently have around 200 acts to evaluate for inclusion so be patient. ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 17:53
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How is Akercocke doing in terms of their submission to the site?? {Note: I merged the new Akercocke topic consisting of this post with the existing one since it's better to search, and bump if considered useful, an existing suggestion thread than to create a new topic - L} |
Posted By: (De)progressive
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 04:44
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For those who don't accept the progressive side of Akercocke, I suggest them to listen especially 'Shelter From The Sand' from the WTGU/DTGU album. ------------- ''Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment.'' (Friedrich Nietzsche) 
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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 11:01
One of my favorite bands.Great band.I would like to suggest them here.But I was afraid to do it.Because Mendonca's growls and screams are very extreme. So,I want to see them here.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 11:11
| Looks like they aren't going to make it. If a band was previously rejected it needs a unanimous "yes" vote at the reevaluation, and that isn't happening. All the votes so far are negative. |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 17:04
Yeah, so fat 11 negative votes and one undecided, counting previous team members that rejected the band. I don't think they will make it. -------------   
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harmonium.ro wrote:Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: January 20 2011 at 18:48
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The first song you supplied Conor is.... IMO not prog... barely at least, but not really. They have some good elements, but are more just pure heavy death metal with some hard rock twists than anything else. But that's just a first impression of one song. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: windir2245
Date Posted: April 03 2011 at 10:32
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I'm shocked that this band is continually rejected from the archives. They are without a doubt one of the leading progressive and experimental metal bands around today. Everything they've done from Choronzon onwards is pure Progressive Metal. It's amazing to me that metal bands like Drudkh, Wolves in the Throne Room, Psycroptic, and Turisas have somehow found their way onto this site, while Akercocke hasn't convinced all of the moderators. Not only does Akercocke take an experimental approach to songwriting in general by incorporating clean vocals, electronics, extreme technicality, and unorthodox instruments, I also hear a definite Rush influence in much of their work since 2003. (I even recall seeing a picture in which one of the members is wearing a Rush shirt). In my opinion, they deserve to be on Progarchives because they are pushing death/black metal into previously unseen territory, increasing the possibilities of the genres by becoming more esoteric, experimental, and technical. Wasn't that what the very first Prog bands were doing back in the late 60s/early 70s? Pushing the rock and roll genre into higher forms of complexity? (This will probably piss some people off, but) It really irritates me that bands like Dream Theater are continually lauded as purveyors of the progressive metal moniker, when I find them to be so bland and predictable, while a band like Akercocke is always shoved under the rug. Please listen to them again!! here are some song samples that I believe unequivocally prove their "prog"ness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKMKoIqD_hM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKMKoIqD_hM (definite Rush influence) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ggGbj0a4U" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ggGbj0a4U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv9Zm8qBT-U" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv9Zm8qBT-U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DBjRIrKVEQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DBjRIrKVEQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKKnWls7Ads" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKKnWls7Ads http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lalmm8uF9d0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lalmm8uF9d0 I strongly suggest giving them a more thorough evaluation. |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: April 03 2011 at 10:56
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At this point, there really is no point in trying to argue for them. Almost every member of both the current team and the previous teams have rejected them, so it would be insane to think that randomly the team would unanimously vote yes. Although they are a good band, they aren't being passed anytime soon. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: April 03 2011 at 11:01
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A more thorough evaluation? There is barely any band in the world that's been voted on by more PMT members then Akercocke. The verdict: 2 Yes 1 Unsure 11 No Pushing the genre doesn't make a band Prog. Madonna and Prince have pushed their genres forward very much as well. /thread |
Posted By: windir2245
Date Posted: April 03 2011 at 13:10
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Then I suppose I would consider Madonna and Prince to be prog. I guess my question to you guys is twofold: what constitutes "prog" to you and what does a metal band need to do to be onto this site? It seems like there are a number of bands on here that copy the early creators of progressive rock and are accepted because they play "progressive rock." I find this ridiculous though, considering that copying older bands and conforming to a certain genre is the opposite of progression. I feel like prog isn't so much a generic restriction as an attitude one takes when creating music. Also, I'm one of the biggest fans of Drudkh around. Autumn Aurora and Microcosmos are some of my most-listened and favorite albums of all time, but there is not a doubt in my mind that they are pure black metal. How does a band like that get unanimous "yes" votes and Akercocke doesnt? What do you look for in metal bands to be considered "Tech/Extreme"? If it really is impossible for you guys to reevaluate, then I accept it. But I don't appreciate this attitude of "this is the way it is. We say it isn't progressive, you need to accept it." I'd appreciate some dialogue...This is exactly why I stopped participating at the Metal Archives. They have this very dictatorial attitude about their decisions that allows for little to no possibility of discussion
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 03 2011 at 13:20
If you can't make the difference between Autumn Aurora and plain black metal then you're helpless.  And yes, prog is a style (only innitially it was just a new way of thinking rock; but it codified pretty quick). |
Posted By: windir2245
Date Posted: April 03 2011 at 13:34
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I think you misinterpreted my statement about Drudkh. By "pure" I mean that I couldn't see it be categorized in anything but black metal. That being said, the wall of sound is so beautiful and oddly light sounding that it's definitely less grating on the ears than typical bm. Would you agree with that? (There's been moments when listening to Drudkh in which I don't even feel as though I'm listening to black metal because the production softens it so much). Is Drudkh considered "prog" though? I'm still confused about the criteria on allowing metal bands in the site. Do they need to be similar to bands that play the style of prog or is there something else? My idea would be bands that push the boundaries of metal music, but apparently that idea has already been poo-pooed.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 03 2011 at 13:41
I agree about Drudkh, but I think songwriting is much more important in their case than production. Neat production only comes in their case as a colateral aspect of their artistic ambitions of developing the black metal style into a progressive direction. RE prog, depends of what you mean by prog. If prog's Genesis and Gentle Giant only, than no. They are progressive metal of the extreme kind, though. |
Posted By: windir2245
Date Posted: July 18 2011 at 16:33
| I know this has been /threaded. But can I just leave a bitchy "lol" towards the band TALANAS that has been accepted on progarchives. They're the biggest Akercocke rip-off that I've ever heard and somehow they've found a spot on here. Okay, and now I'm gone. |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: July 18 2011 at 17:14
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Different eras of the Prog Metal Team have different standards of clearance, really. Different members interpret the definition of the genre differently. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 10:45
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^ Looks like in this case they were pretty unanimous, though. However if the band comes with a new album that's consistently progressive, they can be reevaluated. |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 16:33
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Yea I remember this band now. They really weren't progressive. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 20:08
| I would tend to disagree.. |