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Herbie Hancock vs. Keith Emerson

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Topic: Herbie Hancock vs. Keith Emerson
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Herbie Hancock vs. Keith Emerson
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 12:54
Choose....



Replies:
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 13:01
Herbie!

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 13:09
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Herbie!





Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 13:43
Herb is going to bust Keith up.  Or were you talking about their keybord work?LOL
Either way i take Herb.


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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 13:46
Coin flip.


Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 15:14
Not so easy, but Herbie - for sure


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 15:22
Herbie.

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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 15:49
Mr. Hancock.
He is the one who released my favourite jazz album.


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Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 15:50
Keith who??????   Confused
 
Sic 'im, Herb.......Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
LOL
 
 


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 16:10
Emerson.

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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 16:23
Hancooooook!
 


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Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 16:24
Never listened to Herbie, so naturally......................................................................................................................................................................................... . . . . .  .       .           .                           .                          .                                  .      Emerson


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 16:33
Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

Never listened to Herbie, so naturally......................................................................................................................................................................................... . . . . .  .       .           .                           .                          .                                  .      Emerson
 
Ermm You never listened to Herbie, so it's natural to vote????!!!Confused
 
 


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Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 16:37
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

Never listened to Herbie, so naturally......................................................................................................................................................................................... . . . . .  .       .           .                           .                          .                                  .      Emerson
 
Ermm You never listened to Herbie, so it's natural to vote????!!!Confused
 
 


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 18:39
Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

Never listened to Herbie, so naturally......................................................................................................................................................................................... . . . . .  .       .           .                           .                          .                                  .      Emerson
 
Ermm You never listened to Herbie, so it's natural to vote????!!!Confused
 
 


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Wacko You've got to be kidding me, why vote in a poll where you don't know one of the poll options, specially when there are only 2 options??!!
 
Don't you find it illogical? meaningless?


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Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 19:11
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

Never listened to Herbie, so naturally......................................................................................................................................................................................... . . . . .  .       .           .                           .                          .                                  .      Emerson
 
Ermm You never listened to Herbie, so it's natural to vote????!!!Confused
 
 


......................................... .. ...  ... ...  ... ........................... .                           . yes
 
Wacko You've got to be kidding me, why vote in a poll where you don't know one of the poll options, specially when there are only 2 options??!!
 
Don't you find it illogical? meaningless?


Yes, but seriously QO, what Herbie Album should I listen to, and does he have any good synthpop/AOR stuff cuz I really go for that (I am listening to Robert Wyatt right now but Starship is queued!!!! :triumphant similie:)


Posted By: mourningknight
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 19:24
Keith Emerson.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 22:18
Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

Never listened to Herbie, so naturally......................................................................................................................................................................................... . . . . .  .       .           .                           .                          .                                  .      Emerson
 
Ermm You never listened to Herbie, so it's natural to vote????!!!Confused
 
 


......................................... .. ...  ... ...  ... ........................... .                           . yes
 
Wacko You've got to be kidding me, why vote in a poll where you don't know one of the poll options, specially when there are only 2 options??!!
 
Don't you find it illogical? meaningless?


Yes, but seriously QO, what Herbie Album should I listen to, and does he have any good synthpop/AOR stuff cuz I really go for that (I am listening to Robert Wyatt right now but Starship is queued!!!! :triumphant similie:)


While I intended this as poll for people to vote who know both, but should have been more explicit about that, I appreciate your honesty and know that it is common no matter how explicit you are that there are those who will vote even if one explicitly asks people to only vote if they are reasonably familiar with both options.  I love Robert Wyatt's music, by the way.  Still, one of the reasons I do polls, since I don't really care about results, care far more about people's comments, is to increase exposure (though Hancock is well-known in these parts, I know there are those that don't really know him).

I would recommend Crossings and Sextant to start with (called "Mwandishi" albums-- those were revelatory albums for me which lead me to explore many albums by the Mwandishi players (Eddie Henderson's Realization, Julian Priester's Love, Love etc.).

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Youtube has various vids of his music (unfortunately, nothing of the amazing Crossings, but it's better to be immersed in the albums).  Here's the first track off Sextant:




Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 23:56
Herbie is more versatile, has played longer at the top and is able to play in ensemble fashion. Which puts him three up on Mr. Emerson.


Posted By: friso
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 01:46
I'vet yet have to find an album with Emerson I like, and I do like some Herbie material like Crossings and ofcourse the classic Headhunters.


Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 04:17
Herbie Hancock, no question.

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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 06:45
Two very different musicians with very different styles and genres. Both are top of their field. This poll should have had  a third option "Equally great in their own right". But since as you say with a somewhat indignant tone "CHOOSE!" I will.

Mr Emerson would you please stand up and take a bow.

Mr Hancock, you may give a queens wave from your seat.


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 12:32
I've got more albums with Keith on it, but I still like Herbie.  Duet anyone?  That would be really interesting.  Herb's certainly more funky but when you really want to go with the funk, Bernie Worrell. Big smile

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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 12:42
Herbie of course.

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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 15:40
interesting... more comments suporrting Herbie but more votes to Emerson.

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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 15:50
Two great players seen them both but in the end i relate more to Keith's music than Herbie's.  

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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 19:28
Wow.  I know this is a prog site, but I'm still surprised Emerson has such a commanding lead.

I voted Herbie.  Which reminds me that I haven't  listen to Crossings lately. LOL


Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 19:39
I wasn't going to vote in this, but given that Herbie is getting creamed, I will step up to help. Emerson is a hack. A talented hack, but a hack no less.

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 20:34
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I wasn't going to vote in this, but given that Herbie is getting creamed, I will step up to help. Emerson is a hack. A talented hack, but a hack no less.

You might want to be careful because he could throw knives at you.  I don't know if Hancock has been into throwing knives.  Of course with Hancock you should watch out for your head. Tongue


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Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 20:41
Herbie,  not a hard choice for me


Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 21:03
I like both.  I think that Emeson is more talented, but Hancock's style and jazz sensibilities are better so he gets my vote.


Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 23:15
I DL'd Crossings, one of his few, few albums with even a few tracks not locked on Napster, others were parts of Monster and Perfect Machine. Crossings is pretty good but I've only given it one "spin." Thumbs Up Didn't hear any Emerson like theatrics though.

One prob I have with Emerson is all his stuff sounds the same in a way.... like he's hitting all the keys at once or something... he stands out, but not in the same amazing way as say, Moon or Entwistle or Gilmour or Hendrix with their respective instruments.

Wakeman sounds just silly all the time.... bottle-blowing noises and what not....

I'd go for Tony Banks as the definite best to me... methinks


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 12:19
Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

I DL'd Crossings, one of his few, few albums with even a few tracks not locked on Napster, others were parts of Monster and Perfect Machine. Crossings is pretty good but I've only given it one "spin." Thumbs Up Didn't hear any Emerson like theatrics though.

One prob I have with Emerson is all his stuff sounds the same in a way.... like he's hitting all the keys at once or something... he stands out, but not in the same amazing way as say, Moon or Entwistle or Gilmour or Hendrix with their respective instruments.

Wakeman sounds just silly all the time.... bottle-blowing noises and what not....

I'd go for Tony Banks as the definite best to me... methinks


Emerson and Hancock's styles are very different of course.

Good, and you can check out Sextant on youtube.  I love his earlier albums too, and a couple of later ones. I'm not so keen on his Head Hunters album, though that was a much talked about one when his admission to PA was suggested.

Since you've heard Crossings, it's neat to compare the Maupin-penned versions of "Quasar" and "Water Torture" off Crossings and Maupin's later (1977) Slow Traffic to the Right (I love those too -- such good funk, and more accessible):





Interestingly, I had written this as a Hancock versus Banks poll, but changed it just before posting.

If you like Crossings (and Sextant when you hear it -- see http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Hancock%20Sextant&search=Search&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&spell=1 - youtube ), there are many excellent related albums by performers on it (the Mwandishi Players) -- my particular faves being Julain Priester's Love, Love aand Eddie Henderson's Realization.

Excuse me if I -re-post something I wrote in my Henderson - Realization review:

"[Realization] is an absolutely essential album for those who like Herbie Hancock and friends Mwandishi trilogy. Aside from "Crossings", "Sextant", and "Mwandishi", albums with a musical relation to "Realization" worth getting include: Eddie Henderson's "Inside Out" (if you don't have Anthology, Vol. II) and "Sunburst"; Julian Priester's fantastic "Love, Love" and his "Polarization"; Bennie Maupin's "The Jewel in the Lotus" and "Slow Traffic to the Right";  Buster Williams Pinnacle; and Norman Connors - "Dance of Magic" and "Dark of Light".

Lenny White, who performed on Realization, released to my mind one of the most stunning Fusion tracks with "Venusian Summer"... Billy Hart's "Enchance is good", and, though different, Pat Gleeson's electronic explorations in "Beyond the Sun" are very good."




Posted By: mohaveman
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 16:22
Emerson cuz I'm not real familiar with Herbie Hancock


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 18:05
Herbie Hancock cuz I'm familiar with both.

(the only correct answer)


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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 22:08
I can't vote.  We're here on PA; the automatic vote would be for Emerson.  But Herbie has his own magic, which I've  been fortunate enough to witness live from literally his feet.  In the end, the two are both too skilled in their own way to compare, or especially to judge against the other.  Sextant?  Tarkus?  I don't really want to choose one over the other. 

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Posted By: Tursake
Date Posted: May 06 2010 at 02:17
Emerson ofcourse Thumbs Up

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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 06 2010 at 05:03
Considering we're on a Prog forum the results are interesting. I would have expected Emerson crushing Herbie.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 06 2010 at 12:23
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Considering we're on a Prog forum the results are interesting. I would have expected Emerson crushing Herbie.


I would expect many not to vote who like Emerson, though, because they're not really familiar with Hancock.  I know I wouldn't vote in such a poll unless I felt that I was sufficiently familiar with both to make a choice.


Posted By: elder08
Date Posted: May 06 2010 at 13:42

KEITH!!!!!



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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 06 2010 at 13:57
Here's one for the Emerson fans:







Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: May 06 2010 at 22:00
Confused   Herbie!  And I have only seen a few live performances on youtube, been meaning to check out his albums properly but never got around to it.  Don't need to know more though to know who's the better keyboardist.  Emerson was influential for prog keyboard but somewhat overrated.   

This is a great live performance of Herbie by the way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrgP1u5YWEg - www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrgP1u5YWEg


What next...Greg Lake (as bassist)  v/s Percy Jones, may I suggest?  LOL  Stolt v/s Metheny?




Posted By: esky
Date Posted: May 21 2010 at 09:46
Why compare these two? They both played worlds a part, genre-wise. Each is special though in his own right.



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