New Kanye West song (Prog-related....trust me)
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Topic: New Kanye West song (Prog-related....trust me)
Posted By: stonebeard
Subject: New Kanye West song (Prog-related....trust me)
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 15:49
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Mods, for the love of God please don't rename this topic or give away the surprise. It's worth not having it spoiled for anyone. Prog fans, enjoy : ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
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Posted By: Xanatos
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 15:53
| WTF? |
Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 15:56
Seriously, that's actually Zeuhl-licious.
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stonebeard wrote:Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 16:06
Sorted
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seriously, that's Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 16:14
KW ain't got nothin' on KC! 
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Posted By: TrevRockOne
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 16:17
Even without the big "surprise," this sounds pretty proggy near the end there.
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Posted By: MrProg
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 16:24
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damn! hahaha ------------- Mr Prog at The End of Time... |
Posted By: MrProg
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 16:27
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DAMN! haha ------------- Mr Prog at The End of Time... |
Posted By: Xanatos
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 16:41
| :O! He sampled KC! I cant believe it , this totally changes my perspective of my life xD |
Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 16:52
| Does this make Prog the #1 hype of 2010? |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 16:55
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What's prog in this song ? Sampling 3 seconds of "21st century schizoid man" ? That's nightclub music. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Drifter
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 17:28
| At the next awards ceremony he attends, he's going to interrupt the winner and declare,"Ima gonna let you have the microphone back but I just gotta say that my homies from Gong shoulda won in this catagory!" |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 18:01
Pathetic.
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Posted By: Kojak
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 18:03
| f**k Me. Can I say that...??? |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 18:06
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Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 18:07
No, but this does: PS I remember that this video has already been discussed in a previous thread. Unfortunately I couldn't find it.  |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 18:12
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^ sorry, but I fail to see the connection with prog in this collage (a flute solo ???). ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 18:17
| ^ I guess you're joking lucas? |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 18:40
This. Yes, this. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 18:53
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I don't have the power to believe.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 19:30
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He also sampled some of the guitar lucas, at least I'm pretty sure that's Fripp, I'm too lazy to double check. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Dorsalia
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 20:03
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This is the s***.
------------- "Es ist übrigens unmöglich, eine Meinung zu haben, ohne dass es unerfreuliche Überschneidungen gibt. Die Grünen sind für den deutschen Wald, die NPD ebenfalls." |
Posted By: javier0889
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 20:18
Next thing will be, The Gates of Delirium for the soundtrack of the new Twilight movie! |
Posted By: Scizoidman94
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 21:03
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Yo Kanye i'm real happy for you and all but King Crimson had the best album of 2010 oh wait never mind
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 11:25
no, not this time. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: StrangerByTheMinute
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 12:30
| Can't unhear!! |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 14:09
| I wonder if RF will see a dime from this? |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 16:37
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So it's time to decide what team should be in charge of his addition to PA... I think crossover may fit... ------------- 
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Posted By: ProgBob
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 16:54
Just in case you really aren't joking: it was Focus. ------------- Bob |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 16:59
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so what, 3 or 4 seconds of a sample of prog rock song makes a band prog ??? When Massive Attack sampled Billy Cobham, they were not regarded jazz-fusion but trip-hop, weren't they ??? ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 17:06
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I guess you're not that good to detect when one is joking... -------------
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Posted By: Anirml
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 17:19
Robert Fripp will not allow this!  I would say that Kanye West should be added to prog-related  ------------- 
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Posted By: JemJem714
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 17:50
| Sacrilege!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 18:43
And who says prog fans don't have a sense of humor? Everyone. Everyone says this. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 18:45
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OMG he said prog fans have no sense of humor. BAN HIM! ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 19:11
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I don't think it's so much that they don't have a sense of humour but that they can't take a joke at their expense.
Just try saying something facetious about Dream Theater and watch the tears and death threats flow.
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Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 20:37
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It's not like prog has never been sampled before. Still, that's pretty funny.
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Posted By: Floydfreakinfan
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 21:34
| So where are my friends now, so that I can tell them I'm not crazy! Kanye sampling King Crimson! (Well first they wouldn't know what sampling is) Never would have thought it possible. |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 21:57
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Aww crap man! You made me get vomit all over my laptop!
------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 22:02
| Well, I surely won't be hearing this again by free will. If I want 21st Century Schizoid Man, I'll go for King Crimson. |
Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 03:57
Why does Prog attrack people with no sense of humour?
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Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 06:16
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Better than when he sampled Can, at least: Come to think of it, I thought the first time was a fluke, but maybe Kanye is a closet Prog Head... |
Posted By: idiotPrayer
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 06:40
join the club. i cant see why it's prog, when it's just the standard very un-prog song with a 3 second prog sample. |
Posted By: ProgBob
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 11:56
Was this directed at me? I've actually got a pretty good sense of humour usually but if it was a joke from lucas I'll be honest and say I don't really get it. Anyway, I detect a bit of confusion in this thread that stems from two videos having been posted. There was the original Kanye West one and then the Nike one that lucas commented on. Some people have responded to lucas assuming he was talking about the original one with the Schizoid Man sample. However, he was talking about the Nike one that had most of Hocus Pocus in it, not just a few second sample. ------------- Bob |
Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 12:16
^ Bob... I obviously can't speak on behalf of The T, but I don't think that comment was directed at you. Don't worry about it buddy 
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 13:12
too late, you can't undo what's already been done. |
Posted By: ProgBob
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 14:58
OK - sorry if I misunderstood. I should try not to be paranoid! ------------- Bob |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 17:58
Correct. It was directed at Lucas' post. Which was immediately above mine. Why does prog attrack so many paranoids? If you don't even know what is humour, please go away... (No, it's not serious. There's a know story around here about that phrase...Don't go away. ) -------------
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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 02:29
| I can't feel my ears any more. |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 08:06
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I hate rap
the sample "21st Century Schizoid man" sounded good but it lasted for for 5 seconds. Not enough for me to return to this tripe ------------- 
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Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: June 05 2010 at 04:59
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I'd heard of this, and as much as I hate Kanye West, and all this rap bullsh*t, this actually made my day. I'm glad to know that rapmen (even producers) know that bands like King Crimson exist, and even take their time to sample their music into one of their songs. Still a lame song.
------------- http://www.formspring.me/Aragorn224" rel="nofollow - Trendsetter win! The search for nonexistent perfection. |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:33
I wonder how the 21st Century Schizoid Man feels about being in a song like this. 
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Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: June 06 2010 at 16:49
The KC was bad enough, but this just pisses me off. ------------- "WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!" -The Great Gig in the Sky |
Posted By: PopLies
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 12:12
| I was so excited when I first heard this song. haha |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 20 2010 at 09:55
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So apparently the sample was used illegally, which has drawn an angry Fripp over their asses, this is going to be fun Also, he likes it  I like Power & would have approved, had I been approached. Probably, Mr. Kanye acted in good faith & left it to his people to arrange licensing. Sadly, UMG’s Standard Operating Procedure seems to be: act first, regardless of proprieties & permissions, and deal later: on the assumption that the size & quasi-monopolisitic power of the company will be enough to deal / override / ignore any objections. Kanye the artist has my presumption of innocence, given the clear choice between the intention of the artist & UMG the company/s. http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm?entry=17547 - http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm?entry=17547 |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: June 20 2010 at 10:09
Well , according to wikipedia 'The album [In the court of the crimson king] reached #3 on the British charts. The album is certified http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_record - gold in the United States. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Court_of_the_Crimson_King#cite_note-1 - [...] The album was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remaster - remastered and re-released on vinyl and CD several times during the 1980s and 1990s.[...] The song [21st century schizoid man] is featured as the final track in the music video game http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero_5 - Guitar Hero 5 ' So one must be really be a hermit if he never heard this song. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 20 2010 at 16:52
| People expressing surprise that Fripp likes it are revealing themselves as the sort of nostalgic type who is not really progressive but listens to prog for the sound of their own past. Fripp as an actual prog person is highly likely to enjoy all sorts of unusual stuff, particularly the new because you don't make much progress by digging up the past over and over. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 20 2010 at 17:18
| Outkast have sampled Focus i don't know what song but that one is realy good song but then Outkast is the sh**t, the most inovative of the A-list Rap artists |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 20 2010 at 17:23
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The Outkast song with the Focus sample is Wheelz Of Steel.
BTW, Big Boi from Outkast's favourite singer is Kate Bush.
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Posted By: javier0889
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 15:26
| I'm not specially surprised if Fripp liked "Power". Professional musicians are often more tolerant and humble than their fans, at least in musical tastes. |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 15:38
I guess what I don't understand is that if the rappers like good music, why do they make crap?  ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 15:39
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Fripp lied!!!!!!!!! He hates it! Hates it hates it hates it! |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 16:34
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The Truth: Name a critically respected rap album- you may use Rateyourmusic or something similar to determine what they are, perhaps looking at the sub-genres of experimental or abstract hip-hop- that you have acquired and listened to the entirety of. |
Posted By: Tursake
Date Posted: August 10 2010 at 05:27
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Now I gotta tell my rapper friends that their beloved artists are closet proggers!
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Last.fm: TursakeX RYM: Tursake |
Posted By: DreamInSong
Date Posted: August 10 2010 at 12:54
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If the TC wants it to be a surprise: Spoilers... I suppose The video is down, but is that the song where he samples KC? ------------- 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 10 2010 at 12:54
Yeah. The music video is up now too, and it's pretty good. Search youtube or something. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: August 10 2010 at 15:08
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It's good, but it's insanely short.
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Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 12:49
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The producer of the song thought KC would fit the song, and Kanye agreed. Kanye also admitted he likes the song! Nevertheless, I love the song, and the video is the best video ever, period. ------------- http://www.formspring.me/Aragorn224" rel="nofollow - Trendsetter win! The search for nonexistent perfection. |
Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 16:22
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Well why wouldn't he like the song? Average "musicians" always look up to dominant musicians. Just to be a dick ------------- Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell? I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 07:45
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 08:14
| BTW it's just now that I noticed this guy's name isn't Kayne but Kanye. How the hell should that be pronounced? |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 02:17
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-------------  One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 02:30
Kahn-Yay
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 02:33
You do realize that you've just generalized an entire genre of music based on a handful of pop-artists that you've heard in passing . . . right?
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 02:55
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Guys making a big deal of this are just showing their ignorance... rap acts been sampling prog artists since the 80s...
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72311 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72311
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 02:04
This goes to show how music is utterly dead. This kayne buffoon isn't doing anything that wasn't already done in the 80s. |