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Topic: Which hated album do you like the most?
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Subject: Which hated album do you like the most?
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 16:16
Which of these 10 albums widely known as awful do you like the most (or hate the least Wink).



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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 16:19
We Can't Dance is probably the only album from there I listen with pleasure, it's such a fine pop rock album.


Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 16:19
Tormato, which is a fantastic album for me. I have no idea why it's rated so low...

...Then again, I am a Yes fanboy ]

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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 16:34
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Tormato, which is a fantastic album for me. I have no idea why it's rated so low...

...Then again, I am a Yes fanboy ]


Tormato and Union. I know that Yes members don't like The Union album because the way it was produce, but personnally, i like the sounds and almost every songs . I must like Yes very much...


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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 16:36
Tormato.


Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 16:40
Tormato and Abacab. The last one if it wasn't for Who Dunnit is just an average pop record IMO. And it has 2 great moments with Dodo and the title track. I'll go with Tormato on this one though.


Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 17:00
We Can't Dance ain't that bad! No Son Of Mine, Jesus He Knows, I Can't Dance and Hold On My Heart are solid pop tunes!
Driving The Last Spike and Fading Lights are suppose to be progressive but I never really understood their appeal, oh well... Jesus he knows me And he knows I'm right I've been talking to Jesus all my life! LOL


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 17:12
Tormato, Abacab, and Union.

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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 17:13
St.Anger. Too old to play rock'n'roll, too young for ... pop-songs, I afraid


Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 17:55
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

We Can't Dance is probably the only album from there I listen with pleasure, it's such a fine pop rock album.


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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 18:00
We Can't Dance for Fading Lights alone.


Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 18:06
Tormato is a great album! I don't know why people dislike it.


Posted By: AerosolKid74
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 18:09
I went with Tormato, i've never heard anyone say it was terrible, also what was St Anger doing on a prog forum?

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Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 18:09
Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Tormato is a great album! I don't know why people dislike it.
Because of this song:


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 18:22
I was so hoping to see Merci on the list.  No vote.

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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 18:38
These all pretty much suck, but We Can't Dance is easily the best. It's the only post-Duke Genesis album that I can listen to without regurgitating my dinner.

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 18:51
Under Wraps is a good album beneath that somewhat challenging production.  In my opinion their best post mid-70s work (ducking the tomatoesLOL)

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 18:56
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I was so hoping to see Merci on the list.  No vote.

This.


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Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 19:46
It came down to Abacab or Under Wraps, and I ended up going with the latter. I agree with Finnforest, this album really has some great songs, the problem was the production which was a product of the era.

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 22:32
There are many albums I don't know here, but from the ones I know I guess I like Union better. Shock to the System and The More we Live Let Go are among my favourite Yes songs. I Would Have Waited Forever is pretty cool too. The rest of the album isn't very good, but just because of these 3 songs I Must have it.


Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 22:35
I actually don't think Abacab is that bad. I've noticed people tend to judge it for what it did to Genesis rather than it's actual music, which I can understand.

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Posted By: squirting
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 22:40
Love Beach, just for the fantastic cover.

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Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 23:10
Originally posted by squirting squirting wrote:

Love Beach, just for the fantastic cover.

...

But there are no votes for Love Beach.


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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 02:50
We Can't Dance, which nearly reaches the 3-star level, as the only of the ones I know. Abacab comes second.

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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 10:35
Anyways, I voted Tormato


Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 10:40
I like St. Anger and Tormato quite a lot, some others aren't that bad either.

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Posted By: JemJem714
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 12:31
I have to go with We Can't Dance since it was my very first taste of Genesis (thank you Dad!)


Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 12:52
Tormato which is certainly not a bad album, just not up to what had come before.


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 13:01

As a progressive pop fan, I actually like all of the listed albums to a certain degree.  Although from a prog fan point of view, none of these albums live up to their predecessor's progginess, there is still some good to great music on these albums.  Maybe not as great as their classics, but in most cases certainly as good as anything else being released during that similar time period.



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Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 13:31
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Posted By: Progist
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 13:44
I hate them all equally!! Thumbs Down


Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 13:52
Originally posted by CinemaZebra CinemaZebra wrote:

I actually don't think Abacab is that bad. I've noticed people tend to judge it for what it did to Genesis rather than it's actual music, which I can understand.

I agree. For what it is, Abacab isn't that bad.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 14:02
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I was so hoping to see Merci on the list.  No vote.

This.


It's funny in a way since I like Merci that I'm always disappointed when it doesn't make "most hated" albums lists.  Nor only would I appreciate the chance to defend it, but a part of me would rather things I like be talked about badly than not talked about at all.  Really, though it has a bad reputation amognst the realtively few wo are ware of it, I don't really think it deserves that bad reputation.  Another Zeuhl album that could have been mentioned in this list is Musique Noise's Fulmines Regularis (I rather like that too) and Troll's Volume 2 (so bad,a volume one wasn't even made that i know of.  Has some good stuff, but I think it was considered bad enough not to even seriously be considered for adding to PA).


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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 14:11
Why all the love for Love Beach here? LOL


Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 22:04
Under Wraps


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Posted By: WileyMarshall
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 23:23
Um, what do you vote if you hate them all?
Love Beach I guess, such a hilarious cover LOL


Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 23:50
Tormato was a bad album for Yes in 70s but for today it's a good album


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 00:03
We can't dance, followed by Tormato. Neither of them a bad album in my opinion.

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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 02:42
St Anger. 

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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 12:46
Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

St.Anger. Too old to play rock'n'roll, too young for ... pop-songs, I afraid


exactly the same idea here. St-Anger is my fav one star album.
At least it makes me laugh with that silly tin-can drum sound.



Posted By: t-bear
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 15:09
There is something about Love Beach that enthralls me.  Officer and a Gentleman is heart wrenching. One of those times that the lyrics by Sinfield actually works on an understandable level.  Straight forward story without the puffery of the past (as he did with :Pirates, too).  Lake's voice is spot on with the song. Emerson is restrained and yet majestic, especially the last few minutes with  the march -it fits so well.
 
Palmer is not bombastic and still shows he is one of the best percussionist in any genre.
 
Canario is bright and wonderful.
 
The title song has Lake singing like he rarely does, with conviction and not restrained.  Many have said this is really a Greg Lake album.
 
There is not really a daft song in the bunch.


Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 16:13
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Tormato, which is a fantastic album for me. I have no idea why it's rated so low...

...Then again, I am a Yes fanboy ]
Same here, except I'll substitute Big Generator. Final Eyes, I'm Running, Rhythm Of Love, Shoot High Aim Low beat On The Silent Wings Of Freedom, Future Times/Rejoice, Onward, and Madrigal.


Posted By: missinglink07
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 16:41
I really don't see why Tormato is hated so much. Yes not in their prime is still better than plenty of other music LOL

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Posted By: esky
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 17:01
Love Beach's longer songs showed that the ELP boys still had some punch left in their songwriting chopsClap. And Lake was still in fine form, vocally. The rest of the albums listed have the ability to hurt my ears.


Posted By: cesar polo
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 07:56
Tormato...but I like also Underwraps, Love beach and Union


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 08:01
Big Generator. And it's not a relative statement like "I like it more than the others", no, I like it in itself, great piece of progressive pop-rock music, **** album for me. Smile


Posted By: Adams Bolero
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 10:24
Love Beach is a decent album with a horrible cover and name so it gets my vote.

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Posted By: CyberDiablo
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 12:08
Tormato's Don't Kill The Whale is awesome my 2. favourite Yes song. But I still can't understand why it's so underrated. Circus of Heaven is an.... "acceptable" song, it's not bad enough to spoil the whole album!


Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 13:38
Big Generator is a bit pop oriented, but I think it's excellent. Shoot High Aim Low and Holy Lamb, for example, are two Yes classics, to me. I don't understand why people don't appreciate this album. Ok, it's not the same Yes as in the seventies : other lineup, other music. But what a music !

On the other hand, I recently bought Union, but I can't enter in it. This album has no 'soul'.


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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 13:39
Originally posted by missinglink07 missinglink07 wrote:

I really don't see why Tormato is hated so much. Yes not in their prime is still better than plenty of other music LOL

Well said Tongue


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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 13:40
Don't kill The Whale ! What a guitar line ! Really one of my fave Yes tracks.

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Posted By: CyberDiablo
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 13:42
Seems like "In The Hot Seat" is the most hated of them. lol

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Posted By: Gandalfino
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 10:41
Tormato!
But I miss here Tales from Topographic Oceans.


Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 10:44
Wrapped Tomatos
...this could to to the unite chefs tread.
 
Voted Tull, but the Yes is a very good album too. Circus it a bit too much Anderson on a "Mind" trip, otherwise a good album.


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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 10:48
BTW :
dosent hate any of the albums, dosent hate music, dosent hate POP music
Hate: War - Fazism - Toothpain 


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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 13:29
I think Abacab is a 4 star album, so easily that

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Posted By: Cthulhu42
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 13:36
It may be a big step down from what they did in the past, but I don't think Abacab is at all a bad album.


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 13:39
Tormato which I think is quite a good album.


Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 14:33
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 14:38
Abacab.  I think it is a far better album than most people give it credit for.  Some decent pop tunes along with three really great prog songs.  Certainly it isn't Foxtrot or SEBTP, but the band still had some good writing in them at that point. 

BTW, In the Hot Seat should have been called On the Toilet. 


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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 14:40
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Under Wraps is a good album beneath that somewhat challenging production.  In my opinion their best post mid-70s work (ducking the tomatoesLOL)

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C'mon, everyone! Its easy to Sl*g Anderson'a attempt to modernize and it was a sign of the times!  There wern't many great albums in the 80s , so give it a break!
I recently lent Walking in the Light (Ian's electronica-infested debut album -cousin of Under Wraps) to a local highly gifted musician who was stunned by the high quality of the drum programming, unable to fathom how this was done with primititive 80's equipment! Under Wraps is not great but in its own context, devoid of comparisons , its a fine listen. Cool


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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 16:12
Tormato is the best, but a lot of Genesis pop is fantastic. 

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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 17:17
Tormato.. I guess


Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 18:08
Tormato wins but Abacab is fine and the same goes for We Can't Dance (if it wouldn't be soooo long it could be much better). 

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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 18:14
We Can't Dance would have been a much better album had the track listing been something like this:
1. Jesus He Knows Me (yeah, I like that song)
2. Driving the Last Spike
3.  On The Shoreline (why this was left off the album makes no sense to me)
4.  Dreaming While You Sleep
5.  No Son of Mine
6.  I Can't Dance (Yeah I like that one too)
7.  Fading Lights


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Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 18:30
Originally posted by missinglink07 missinglink07 wrote:

I really don't see why Tormato is hated so much. Yes not in their prime is still better than plenty of other music LOL
 
Yes but songs like Don't Kill The Whale are very close to mediocrity.


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Posted By: Cthulhu42
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 18:32
Originally posted by geneyesontle geneyesontle wrote:

Originally posted by missinglink07 missinglink07 wrote:

I really don't see why Tormato is hated so much. Yes not in their prime is still better than plenty of other music LOL
 
Yes but songs like Don't Kill The Whale are very close to mediocrity.

I like Don't Kill the Whale. It's Circus of Heaven and Arriving UFO that really drag the album down for me.


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 19:20
Probably Ababcab, but each of the albums listed is annoying in its own special way.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 26 2012 at 01:16

I prefer Tormato to some of the other more regarded Yes albums ,in fact I would only put the holy trinity of The Yes Album,Fragile and CTTE above it. After that Yes became fairly inconsistent with good and bad tracks until maybe Drama which I would put just after those named three. Then Tormato vies with Relayer and GFTO in my book.



Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: June 26 2012 at 12:26
Originally posted by Cthulhu42 Cthulhu42 wrote:

Originally posted by geneyesontle geneyesontle wrote:

Originally posted by missinglink07 missinglink07 wrote:

I really don't see why Tormato is hated so much. Yes not in their prime is still better than plenty of other music LOL
 
Yes but songs like Don't Kill The Whale are very close to mediocrity.

I like Don't Kill the Whale. It's Circus of Heaven and Arriving UFO that really drag the album down for me.
 
Arriving UFO is great. I agree with you that Circus of Heaven is dragging the album down.


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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: June 26 2012 at 12:44
We Can't Dance was my first Genesis purchase and I still enjoy it.

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: June 26 2012 at 12:56
Abacab just over Tormato. Abacab is really a great album filled with Pop classics. I mean, who doesn't like No Reply At All? It's such a fun and catchy song. It also has tracks like the title track and Dodo/ Lurker that give a nod to the good old days, which is great. Definitely my most played 80's, Pop Genesis album.

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: June 26 2012 at 12:58
Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

I'm madly in anger with you
I'm madly in anger with you
I'm madly in anger with you
I'm madly in anger with you

LOL Oh god, please don't go there.


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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: June 26 2012 at 14:19
Angry
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: June 26 2012 at 14:20
Abacab, I think. 90125 probably would be if it were up there.

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