Yes to release "Union" Tour DVD & CD
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Topic: Yes to release "Union" Tour DVD & CD
Posted By: Dellinger
Subject: Yes to release "Union" Tour DVD & CD
Date Posted: August 10 2010 at 22:37
| I just read from YesWorld.com that Yes are going to release the Union Tour DVD and CD. I'm really looking forward to that. |
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 10 2010 at 22:49
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Clip from the DVD: Sounds good to me  ------------- 
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Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 00:30
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Maybe not the best album, maybe not the best performance...but it sure is cool to see high-quality clips of all these guys playing up on stage together. I may have to buy the DVD. ------------- "WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!" -The Great Gig in the Sky |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 00:32
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I still haven't even seen the Symphonic Live CD in stores, wonder if this one will ever make it to these parts. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 00:34
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Union keeps calling to me for some reason. I'll end up buying it one day, I'm sure. As for the tour, well, everybody, even the band, loved it! So I can't wait.
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 03:18
| Although the album was not well received, the tour seems to have been a great success from both band and audience point of view. Looking forward to it. |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 03:25
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Finally!  |
Posted By: Progfan1958
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 11:26
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It will be nice to have for the collection ! ------------- Progfan1958 "Peace to you all" "La paix est avec vous" "Pax vobiscum" "Al salaam a'alaykum" "Vrede zij met u allen" "Shalom aleichem" |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 11:48
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I'll probably go for the DVD. That tour was the last time I saw Yes live. And since I had a crappy lawn seat for it, I'd love to see the performance up close. Onion gets trashed more than it deserves.
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Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 11:58
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The set list is great, let's hope the whole show will be included. (from www.forgottenyesterdays.com) Firebird Suite [Intro] Yours Is No Disgrace  Rhythm Of Love  Shock To The System Heart Of The Sunrise Clap  Make It Easy/Owner Of A Lonely Heart /  And You And I Drum Duet Changes I've Seen All Good People Solly's Beard Saving My Heart/Whitefish/Amazing Grace Lift Me Up Wakeman Solo Awaken Roundabout I too think that Union is underrated. In fact, I like it very much  It includes some of Trevor Rabin's best ever songs, in my opinion. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 12:10
I'm thinking that overrated and underrated have been overused to the point of being meaningless.  I much prefer under appreciated. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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SouthSideoftheSky wrote:Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 12:16
Yeah, 'underappreciated' is an underappreciated word! A word I will try to use more in reviews, thanks! Union is, however, literally underrated, in my opinion. |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 12:27
| Why would you put a yawning face next to the firebird suite? Is there rendition of it really that bad? (Never seen) |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 13:07
Well, Firebird Suite is not actually performed by the band but only played on the speakers as the band walk on stage. It is a Classical piece by Stravinsky (I think  )I should probably have left it without smiley altogether. It's a nice introduction. |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 13:26
^ Yes, it is Stravinsky, and it's one of my favorite Classical works of all time.  lol, but hey, to each their own.
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Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 13:41
I didn't say that I don't like it, but it really cannot be judged by the same criteria as Owner Of A Lonely Heart and the like  Besides, I think the most interesting songs on this DVD (for me) will be those I don't already have on other DVD's and live albums. That should explain why I am more happy with certain songs. The Stravinsky intro have been used for ages, but it is indeed a very nice introduction! |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 14:03
I still say ''Ecstasy of Gold'' is the best opening tape used for a rock concert (Metallica). 
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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 14:27
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From the clip i have seen, this DVD doesn't look better than the DVD done for TV from the same tour in 90's with a central stage. ../album.asp?id=9979 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9979 ------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness. Emile M. Cioran |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 14:35
OK, compromise then, underrated and under appreciated. Neither is it good nor bad, but to me more good than bad. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 14:53
Except it's new, readily available and has a pretty box.
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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 15:05
Yes i am going to buy it my eyes close. There's another DVD of Yes out early this year that is a rare item. It's the only officiale release of the Talk tour in chilie. But i was disappointed of the picture quality who looks like a old 80's concerts broadcast. It's not on PA???  ------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness. Emile M. Cioran |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 15:11
Let's hope they have done their best in re-mastering the sound and restoring the pictures, etc. Today's technology can do wonders to old recordings. I have never seen the VHS video as it is very rare and this re-release will make it available for a much broader audience. |
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 15:16
In terms of picture and sound quality, it looks better than the one in Chile. It's just the camera angles that bug me. ------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness. Emile M. Cioran |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 15:26
Ok, not much they can do about that unless they have all the original angles on separate tapes. With eight people on stage I guess that there was a lot going on and a multiple angles-option would be nice How does it compare to the previous Voice-print DVD release of the Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe concert? I liked that one, I have the limited edition with In The Big Dream as a bonus disc |
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 15:36
The camera seems to be closer to the stage compare to the ABWH DVD and the picture quality looks better. We will see when we can see the whole DVD. ------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness. Emile M. Cioran |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 17:57
A DVD from 1991? Yikes! |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 18:23
*rimshot*
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 18:45
Brilliant, excellent driving song, speeding fine material   ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 19:14
| ^ Yeah, Changes was one of the best tracks on 20125. |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 19:22
| Will buy DVD been waiting for it---like ABWH Union songs---hate the Yes west stuff---more overblown insipid pop which does not make for good prog---(I deleted the Yes west songs on my i-pod) but the concert was exciting to see even though I find Rabin's playing to be uninventive and typical rock playing---long live guitar god Steve Howe! And no matter what they say--during the concert they looked like they couldn't stand one another. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 12 2010 at 06:53
I don't remember 20125, must check that one out.
 I was at one of the gigs on the Union tour so I will have to check this out.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 12 2010 at 10:47
Steve Howe couldn't stand any other guitarist that may have stolen his thunder. He forced Peter Banks out of a reunion gig once, too. I think he's lightened up a lot in recent years, though.
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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: August 13 2010 at 06:27
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On this clip we have some different angles shots then the previous clip : I have find this video in my archives and i understand why i only watched it one time. I have a tough time enjoy a show with too much close up shots. ------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness. Emile M. Cioran |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 15:19
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Very interesting ! The only Yes DVD I own is Live at Montreux 2003, very good. For me, Union is a stuck, but it contains very good songs, for example Silent Talking or I Would Have Waited Forever. Don't you think ? -------------  One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 15:23
Yes Union as some good songs, but they are not on the Union DVD wich i have watched painfully and stopped before the end. It's so dark! |
Posted By: BaronVonCruzer
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 16:06
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I have a Union Tour bootleg DVD. The problem is that Wakeman's solo on "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" is inaudible. That solo is practically the reason I bought that DVD. ------------- THE PROG REPORT The Progressive Rock Fan's Guide To The iPod Revolution www.theprogreport.com |
Posted By: spinsLPs
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 18:16
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Bruford's remembrance of the Union tour, As if sleep-walking, Bill is astonished to find he has re-joined the Yes behemoth, with 8 musicians - the entire cast of “Dallas” re-united. It is ghastly, macabre, and over-blown, but also un-missable. At Madison Square Gardens on 15 June '91, the world’s most expensive drum-kit, $40,000 worth of two Simmons SDX units in tandem, stalls completely, and Bill performs a humiliating drum “duet” on acoustic hi-hat, snare, and cymbal opposite the thundering Alan White. After four months, it’s too much. The tour was presumably in support of some album or another, but it’s not one that Bill ever played again, once recorded. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 22:39
Keys to Ascension and Yes Symphonic are also excellent DVD's you shouldn't overlook. |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 07:47
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I'll do it. ------------- One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 08:04
If I'm not mistaken, Bill has said compromising things about Yes on numerous occasions. In his own opinion, he never really fitted into the band in the first place. Bill is more of a Jazz drummer while Alan is more of a Rock drummer. I do not see how it would be "humiliating" for anyone to play with Alan White. If Bill actually said that, it's some insult! I personally prefer Alan and consider the latter to be the Yes drummer. It will be interesting to see them together though. |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 08:10
Yes Symphonic is indeed a great DVD, but Keys To Ascension is actually quite bad. Not the music itself, but the video is rather awful actually. The editing is very badly made and the visual effects are dreadful. Besides, the set list is too predictable. I would not recommend anyone to buy this DVD as their first Yes DVD. The two CD's of the same shows with new studio tracks added as bonus tracks is a much better investment, in my opinion. A much better DVD is House Of Yes - Live At The House Of Blues, filmed and recorded on The Ladder tour. |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 08:10
Alan White is clearly the official Yes drummer. And I think, as you do, that their styles can't be measured, since they're different. ------------- One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 08:12
I already own the album but I didn't know that it exists in video version. Thanks ! ------------- One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: spinsLPs
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 10:11
| Regarding Bill's humiliation of playing with Alan White, if you've ever seen their drum duo (as oppose to solo) on this tour, they would each take turns soloing over a set pattern. If your electronic kit were to fail, I could see how it would be humiliating to go against Alan armed only with some cymbals and a snare. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 22:06
I do have to admit that the video on Keys to Ascension is rather bad, but it's still watchable, and I did like the concert. Plus, many of the songs on it are my favourite versions of them. And, about it not being good for Yes Newcomers, I guess a predictable set list is better for someone who dosen't know the band, because thus he'll first know the classics instead of the obscure songs. I do might even say this album and Symphonic may be the best way to get to know the band (whether it is on CD or DVD). |
Posted By: nordwind
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 21:56
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I managed to tape that concert when it aired up here in Canada on "MuchMusic" .I just grabbed a tape in a big hurry while accidently flipping through the cannels - probably got about 80% of it .It's an excellent concert ,although a lot of people don't like Rabin I think he's a genius ,& I also really like the "Union" album .The so called "Yes West" .
The only thing missing in my opinion was Peter Banks ,but I guess just getting Steve Howe on stage w/Trevor Rabin was no mean feat ! ------------- Jazz isn't dead.......it just smells funny. Frank Zappa / Live in New York |
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 05:38
It's not this concert that will see on DVD, if i am not mistaken. The concert you talked about is the one with the central stage. This one is a normal stage in Moutain View CA. |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 05:40
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This definitely looks like a DVD that will jump off the shelf into my hands on sight! ------------- 
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 12:39
Apparently Peter Banks was supposed to play one set with Yes. But, from his side of the story, he was told that Howe didn't want him on stage or something like that and so ended up not going on.
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Posted By: BaronVonCruzer
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 17:04
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My problem with the "Union" album is that Rick Wakeman was nowhere to be heard. Steve Howe's contribution was great, but the two best songs are actually re-workings of two songs from his "Turbulence" album. That's why I don't have "Union" in my collection. I have "Turbulence." ------------- THE PROG REPORT The Progressive Rock Fan's Guide To The iPod Revolution www.theprogreport.com |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 22:18
| ^ And, lots of guitars on that album, though credited to Howe, are suposed to have been played by one Jimmi Haun. They just got him to play over Howe's original parts because Howe was not interested enough in the album or somethin like that. I think just about all of Shock to the System was really played by this guy. |
Posted By: BaronVonCruzer
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 16:02
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^ Yeah, 3/5 of the band Lodgic is on that album. If you've never heard of them, they were Billy Sherwood's band before World Trade. His brother, Michael is one of the keyboard players on the Yes East tracks. Another of the keyboardists was Ian Crichton, the bass player of Saga. ------------- THE PROG REPORT The Progressive Rock Fan's Guide To The iPod Revolution www.theprogreport.com |
Posted By: yesfan4
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 09:26
| I was lucky enough to see three shows on the "Union" tour one of them the 4th stop (George Mason University's Patriot Center in Fairfax VA in late APR '91), and then one of the last (USAir Arena in Landover MD in late JUL '91) and all three were great! The set list changed very little between the shows except for "Saving My Heart" replaced "Hold On" for the last show I saw. As some one mentions in an earlier post, I also noticed that the band didn't look happy being all together on stage. Bill Bruford and Squire apparently barely (if at all) spoke during the tour, and at the first show Steve Howe and Rabin were on opposite sides of the revolving stage and Howe "took a powder" from the stage during "Owner of a Lonely Heart", "Hold On", "Changes", and "Lift Me Up". I have read several times that Steve felt Rabin was not worthy of the band (though to a diehard fan as myself, Rabin SAVED IT), though I guess he has mellowed over the years as he was very in favor of Trevor being part of the aborted summer 08 tour. Trevor made a cameo at the 7 AUG YES show at LA's Greek Theater and took center-stage playing guitar for "Owner", and Steve stayed on the stage with him playing rythym guitar, so maybe they have made peace! There is a clip on U-Tube of that song and Trevor looked REALLY happy on stage playing the song with the band. Is this DVD out yet? Have to get it!!!! |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 22:57
| I haven't heard yet about the album being available yet, I hope it will bee soon. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: January 12 2011 at 22:24
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It's available at last. http://www.gonzomultimedia.co.uk/product_details/13922/Yes-Union_%28Deluxe_2CD_&_2DVD%29.html |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 07:24
| I saw them live on this tour at an outdoor concert. My last Yes show. I've just become an old fart who doesn't get out to concerts any more. I blame it on DVDs. |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 08:05
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^I blame it on not wanting to spend $50+ to see artists just going through the motions.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 10:21
Yes, well give credit where it's due. Did I just start off my comment with "Yes"? Dammit!!! Time to go cut a Union and cry. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: ninestonesclose
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 11:10
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Saw them on the Union tour and it was a great event ... looking forward to this release!
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