Shub-Niggurath
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Topic: Shub-Niggurath
Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Subject: Shub-Niggurath
Date Posted: August 14 2010 at 15:29
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Shub-Niggurath is a legendary Zeuhl band from France. They have been compared to Magma a lot. But it is unfair to brand them as just a Magma copycat band. There is far more to Shub-Niggurath than that. Their music was original and very sophisticated. Their debut album a classic album and an essential album for Zeuhl fans. The band broke up twenty years ago and their members are not easy to get hold of. I managed to get hold of Franck Fromy through Soleil Zeuhl and he answered the questions I asked him about his time in Shub-Niggurath. ################################
Please tell us more about your
background. Who was your musical inspirations ?
Before we start this interview,
I would like to thank you for your interest into all these musics
that more or less failed to exist in their time, when created, but
that still live 30 years later - thanks to people like you.
As I will speak alone for the
SHUB NIGGURATH band, you will only get my own view. It’s a bit
restrictive but that’s so. As I left the band in April 1987 I
cannot answer any question about the later area of Shub Niggurath.
At
the time, my fav’ band was GENTLE GIANT – a major musical
encounter. Also King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, PFM, Gong...
Afterwards
came Magma, Weidorje, Art Zoyd, Univers Zéro, Présent...
There is two different spellings of
your band. Shub Niggurath and Shub-Niggurath. Who is the correct
spelling ?
No
importance at all.
When did you start up Shub Niggurath
and with whom ?
I
don’t remember clearly but I think the band got together in October
1982 after 2 bands merged into 1 : APSARA & GORGONUS
(Véronique, Jean-Luc & Alain from Gorgonus ; Ann & me from
Apsara).  Please tell us more about the first
demo from 1985.
We
used that demo for promoting the band & it helped much indeed as
we played a few dozens concerts. It’s been recorded “at home”
with an 8 tracks recorder, one musician after the other. An
interesting work that helped the creation process & made our
musical skills grow.
I
remember the mix has been difficult because everyone needed to be OK
with it – if not, we had to start again. The production itself was
a DIY affair (basic photocopies for the cover etc.).
How did you get your first record deal
?
We
self-produced the tape, no label.  Your debut album Les Morts Vont Vite
from 1986 is a very scary dark album, best enjoyed when hiding behind
a sofa. Please tell us more about this album.
This
album is clearly romantic-influenced. No intention of scaring people
: our sole aim was to allow a glimpse into our minds that we wanted
to be magnificently deep, gruesomely deep sea
We
wanted to create the dizziness of a timeless dimension. The abyss is
often dark, are you afraid of darkness ?
We
had a problem with the drums as our drummers changed too often. We
couldn’t choose among them & the compositions were difficult
(at times too free-form, at other moments too written…).
  I
left the band in 1987,
after
parting with Ann. I left with a stomach ulcer but the music has since
been one of my best love partners.  Your new album is called Introduction
and is a re-release on CD of a tape unleashed in the 1980s. Please
tell us more about this album.
A
team of passionate people has saved this tape from oblivion, I didn’t
even remember its existence until Alain Lebon sent me the pictures of
the original cover.
The
mastering work with Udi Koomran was captivating – trying to restore
the original sound. I take this opportunity for thanking all these
passionate guys, without whom many music & musicians would be
forgotten. So, thank you to Udi Koomran, Alain Lebon, Eric Lumbleau,
Leor Hardy, Roberto Cavallera, Thierry Moreau & Phil Kime.
Music wise, I would describe Shub
Niggurath as a very French avant-garde band, somewhere between Zeuhl
and Rio. But how would you describe your band ?
At
the start we wanted to play progressive rock but very quickly we
shifted towards MAGMA, UNIVERS ZERO, ART ZOYD, PRESENT.
Although
not enough electric for me, but there were also influences from
Olivier MESSAIAN, Edgard VARESE, Igor STRAVINSKY, Carl ORFF…
We
could have done something serious with such a “romantic drama”
rock band!
During the years from 1983 to this day,
your band has had periods of hibernation and some sporadic local gigs
in the Paris area. When was your band in hibernation and when was it
active ?
While
I was in the band we worked a lot : 2 rehearsals sessions of 3-4
hours each per week. Sometimes more. This, during the 4 years I was
involved. Afterwards, I don’t know.
Is there any gigs and/or festivals you
remember with great fondness ?
Nothing
special….
What is the status of Shub Niggurath
today ?
The
band does not exist since nearly 20 years !!
You and Shub Niggurath unfortunately
suffered a tragedy when your bassist Allan Ballaud died of cancer.
Please tell us more about your memories of him.
Alain
was a friend and he still is. Nowadays I still refer to him. He was a
generous bass player with a majestic sound. Even after I had left the
band we continued playing together. Our projects alas stopped because
of his death.
Do you, as Edith Piaff once wrote, have
no regrets or is there anything in Shub Niggurath you wish you could
had done differently ?
I
have NO regrets at all, it was a wonderful experience, very positive.
I learned a lot, I shared great moments with good & interesting
people. Some music remains of this period, that’s fine.
How do you think Shub Niggurath will be
remembered ?
A
dark French rock band – somewhat a Magma satellite.
What is your five all-time favourite
albums ?
VARESE
Amérique
GENTLE
GIANT Free
hand
KING
CRIMSON
Red
MAGMA
Tristan
et Iseult & Udu Wudu Thank you to Franck for this insight in Shub-Niggurath. Their music has been preserved by both Soleil Zeuhl and Musea Shub-Niggurath's PA profile is http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=810 - & their music can be ordered from http://alain.lebon4.free.fr/soleil/debut.html - and other good online shops |
Replies:
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 14 2010 at 15:38
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Short interview, but Shub Niggurath didn't last for many decades, alas! About Frank Fromy, I wish he would have talked a bit about his solo LP. |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 14 2010 at 15:39
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Great interview Torodd. Very interesting to read abou Shub Niggurath ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 14 2010 at 15:44
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Very interesting indeed. Great stuff. I really love Shub-Niggurath.
------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 14 2010 at 16:07
Thanks Torodd & Franck! 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 14 2010 at 16:14
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It's so cool for me, in particular, to see interviews of Shub-Niggurath and Picchio dal Pozzo (two bands that have been REALLY important to me, and I still love) posted so close together. And Carol of Harvest, which I like considerably. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: August 14 2010 at 16:17
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Great interview, nice to get some insight from someone in the band. Good job as always. :)
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: August 14 2010 at 23:04
Couldn't agree more. Man that's a dark album though. "Are you afraid of the dark?"  I like how he said they were trying to create the dizziness of a timeless dimension.A dark abyss. Mission accomplished.------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Logan wrote:Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: September 23 2010 at 13:16
------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |