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Topic: Share Some Interesting Art
Posted By: Anthony H.
Subject: Share Some Interesting Art
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 00:46
Hello, folks. I've been trying to broaden my artistic knowledge and horizons, so I think it would be fun if you guys shared some artwork. It can either be art that you admire (including album covers, if you'd like), or original work. Personally, I'm a big fan of strange and unconventional art. Here's one of my favorite paintings; it's "Man with Lollipop" by Picasso: -------------  |
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 00:49
Not quite as structured as post-Impressionism or eerily dynamic as Italian Futurism, but frankly, I like to laugh.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 00:52
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That one does make me lol Oh, and Dali is always good. |
Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 01:58
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Bosch
Escher Dali Crumb ------------- "...the thing IS, to put a motor in yourself..." |
Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 02:22
OK, Walter introduced Christ and Brian mentioned Dali, so don't blame me for posting this 
Dali's ''Christ of St John of the Cross'' usually hangs in Kelvingrove Art Gallery in Glasgow, but it's currently on a 6-month loan to Atlanta. Inspired by Spanish mysticism and nuclear physics, Dali manages to unite modern science and religious tradition. I just think it's a beautiful painting. Must listen to some Camel...
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 02:24
| I love that one! |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 06:15
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/08/20/spacecolonies.html - This is amazing, and in way too large a resolution to post the originals here. 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 06:20
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Not keen on Dali.
Have to say seeing that Christ one above doesn't improve m,y opinion. The Parting by Tissot i quite like  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 06:34
I like Dalí's depiction of the Last Supper. ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 06:36
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Oh God.......awful! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 07:22
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I'm generally not a big fan of "fine" art (I have issues with gallery culture, but I'm aware this is very much my problem), but here's a few exceptions to the rule: Teun Hocks. His painted photographic self-portraits never fail to delight me. Part-Magritte, part-Buster Keaton:   I also rather like Kahn & Selesnick, who specialise in long panoramic photographs depicting absurd imagined societies:  I'm also pretty big on Dada and related avant-gardery, but that's more to do with words, actions and art all colliding in one big noisy mess, which can't really be summarised by a bit of ineffectual googling. I hate art, and that's why I love it. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 07:30
Great stuff TP!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 07:34
Thanks! Dali can f**k off, btw. Like Warhol, he was a far better self-publicist than he was an artist. Blergh. |
Snow Dog wrote:Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 07:36
Thanks to someone on P.A. (I forget who), I've come to admire the work of Zdzislaw Beksinski.     Not everyone's cup of tea, I realise. I like the darkness of these works, especially. Plus I like Fantasy Fiction, so these fit in nicely with my weird thoughts. There's also a lot of imagery in some of these. Especially the "death" pictures. I could look at them for hours and still find new things. -------------   
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 07:37
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Dark stuff!
I like the one with the pillars though. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 07:38
| I think it was Tuzvihar who promoted this artist. |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 07:39
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Actually, Ian, I like the first one I posted the most because of the starkness of the blue of the robe. It gives out a little hope. I have a bigger and more vivid version of that as my desktop image. -------------
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 07:40
It could well have been. He is Polish after all. It's also the more tragic that Beksinski was shot dead.  -------------
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 07:41
How about this Beksinski, Ian? -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 07:52
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Pretty good James. Is he an artist as in Art Gallery artist or an illustrator? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 08:00
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He was a painter (mostly in oils), a sculptor and a photographer. I'd like to correct my previous post. He was stabbed to death, not shot. A complete waste of a talent. -------------
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 09:25
I've been a fan of woodblock art for a while: That's still one of my favorites. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 09:40
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Woodblock? Don't know his work. Is he related to Roadblock? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: June
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 09:45
That reminds me, the local fine-art museum will have a Otto Dix exhibit at the end of the month that I can't wait to see   Anyone else likes Egon Schiele?  |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 10:03
My partner and I have a print of this:   |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 10:09
Wow! I love those. I've never heard of that guy. ------------- |
Posted By: June
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 10:16
This is from Mati Klarwein (you may remember him from the Bitche's Brew and Abraxas covers) |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 10:29
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Anthony, do a search for him, there's a lot other excellent work out there by him as well.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 10:49
  So that's what they are looking at.  |
Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 14:40
Is that Robert DeNiro ? It does look like him, and the reflective pose is 100% RdN.
Etes-vous me parler? ------------- "...the thing IS, to put a motor in yourself..." |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 14:46
Nah, Dali could actually wield a brush and come up with clever ideas. Warhol merely recycled Duchamp by extolling mundane consumerism. |
Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 15:10
Seconded.......I never saw the appeal of Warhol, personally. ------------- "...the thing IS, to put a motor in yourself..." |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 15:12
Yep.....in the black bonnet.; ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Niv
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 15:25
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I'm far from an art anything, but I do like what me eye sees. And most of that is from people I know and album covers, so far my two favourites are a guy I know, Abraxas (forum user name, not the Santana album) and Celeste Potter, an independent Australian artist and musician. A couple of Abraxas' works:   For some reason, Celeste's works aren't posting but they're all on her blog here: http://celestepotter.wordpress.com/ - http://celestepotter.wordpress.com/ -------------  |
Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 15:26
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Don't know who the artist is.....I just like the 'twistedness' of the pictures.
------------- "...the thing IS, to put a motor in yourself..." |
Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 15:27
 ------------- "...the thing IS, to put a motor in yourself..." |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 15:31
I know these ones...the nane elludes me...Carravagio? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 15:35
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Hang on..those have been messed with...a gun has been added! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 15:35
| ^ Caravaggio. Google that name, will show great wonders. Great artist, I've seen some of his work. There was something at the National Gallery but I fail to remember what exactly. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 15:37
I did say Caravaggio...look I didn't edit it.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 15:47
Go see the masterworks in the St. Petersburg museum and then see if you can stick with that opinion. Dali was most certainly a publicity whore, though. Also, consider this, as an artist is it better for you personally to achieve fame after you are dead?
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 15:57
| Not a painting nor really a sculpture, though an 'artistic object': |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 16:00
Oh you know who!
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Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 16:22
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Ahhh, Caravaggio.....that's the guy in the Derek Jarman film, yeah?
Jeez.....some of this religous art is REALLY disturbing. Thank fk they did'nt have the Net, back then.
Who knows WHAT they might have come up with?!
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 16:28
I saw that, and I posted the name again just the write down the correct spelling of the name.  |
Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 16:50
I had the feeling that the 1st pic was 'spoofed', but I did'nt know that the 2nd pic was an original piece.
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 22:14
H.R. Giger is always great: ------------- |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 22:33
I give to you the E8! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E8_%28mathematics%29 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E8_%28mathematics%29 ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 22:35
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Jon, never knew Math could be so trippy! Fractals are always fun too And HR Giger is not too bad |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 22:36
I tried to read that article, and it was absolute nonsense to me. Math =/= my brain. Cool picture, though! ------------- |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 22:36
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Yeah, the E8 is really trippy/cool looking. I too enjoy fractals. Nature makes awesome art!
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 22:37
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Nature does = awesome win |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 22:37
Could you explain the concept to me in layman's terms? ------------- |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 22:43
Agreed. Math becomes awesome trippy art but havn't the slightest what it means. I stick with good ol 2X + 5 = 15 |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 22:43
Nope. I don't understand it either. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 22:46
 Sticking with the math/science related stuff. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 22:47
| fractals ftw |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 23:02
| <------ OVER THERE |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 23:07
Escher used quite a bit of math in his work: ------------- |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 23:07
------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 23:10
none of those are a proper Ringworld, or even a Dyson Sphere |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 23:17
Glad to see Caravaggio represented. He's one of my very favorites, along with Kandinsky. I have a print of this on my wall: And who could forget crazy old Bosch?  ------------- 
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 23:19
| That bottom one is pretty wild |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 23:21
I know. Can you believe it was painted in the fifteenth century? Now we know where the surrealists got there ideas. I a somewhat less crazy vein, I like Joseph Turner. His style is sort of pre-impressionist. I like this ultra minimal painting of a train.  -------------
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 23:23
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The crazier the better! And that one is also pretty cool. |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 23:27
Pieter Bruegel is one of my favorites: ------------- |
Posted By: Tursake
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 23:39
I don't know why but 70's art like that is just so awesome -------------  Last.fm: TursakeX RYM: Tursake |
Posted By: cobb2
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 01:47
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How about one of mine... 
still waiting for that first cover offer
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 01:48
I like it! |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 03:36
I'm afraid I would. He had some technical ability for sure, but that's not enough for me. When I was 12 I thought that Dali created work of breathtaking imagination, and then I discovered genuine Surrealism. Dali's work fails for me for a number of reasons, but a crucial one is that he always evades the mundane. Without an element of the mundane, something to ground us in the here and now, Surrealism just comes across as phony, ineffectual, apolitical and unnecessary. Dalis work tells us nothing, and does so in immense and cloying detail. In short, I stand by my original statement; Dali can f**k off.
Weird question, if you don't mind my saying... Do you mean financially? You don't need to be famous to live well.
As I said above, ain't nothing 'clever' about Dali's self-conscious mindguffs. I also refute the suggestion that Warhol 'recycled Duchamp'. Presuming you are referring to Duchamp's readymades (and there is much more to Duchamp than readymades, incidentally), they never 'extolled' mundane consumerism. Duchamp's readymades were an appropriation of mass-produced objects, withdrawn from their original surroundings and placed in the context of a gallery as a challenge to art itself; it was not art but anti-art. Duchamp aimed to recharge the debate on what art was allowed to be, where its boundaries might lie. Nowadays we accept readymades as perfectly ordinary, hence the absurd spectacle of post-modern art critics wasting thousands of words on the socio-political significance of a matchstick on a shelf. Warhol is not even worthy of the accusation of "recycling Duchamp", and this is coming from someone who doesn't even like Duchamp very much. And breathe. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 05:01
What's Google World? |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 05:44
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I agree Dali is horribly kitschy, but that was intentional. I can't stand his paintings either, but he was a brilliant guy and he knew how to create mind-f**k images that would stick on the people brains. I respect him for both of those aspects. I think the reason why we hate him is that he manage to imprint on our brain/memory images that we don't like. BTW he was saying himself that his technique (design and colour) is very bad. He had some "charts" where he rated major artists' design, colour, imagery and "genius". If I'm not wrong he gave himself 1out of 20 for design (while Raphael had 20 out of 20), but he also gave himself the maximum grade for "genius" For the moment I know quite little of Warhol, but I like his visual style and I know he was revolutionary (especially on the conceptual level), but some of his practices were indeed repugnant. Unfortunately last year I missed what apparently was a huge Warhol exhibition at the Grand Palais in Paris because I just moved to France and it took me a few months to get a good grip on what's happening here. Myself I like almost all art, it's difficult to find something that I don't like or doesn't raise an interest in me. That's why I took studying art as a professional option, most likely; this has provided me with perpetual intellectual entertainment, but it proved to be a lousy life option from the practical point of view Right now my main interests are in contemporary art, I'm trying to recover after a Walter-style period of despising anything post 1950 I'm very into American late modernism (Rothko, Jasper Johns, Rauschenberg, etc), Minimalism (especially that with a performative side, like Daniel Burren's), Arte Povera, conceptual art and, on the more traditional side of the spectrum, neo-expressionism (especially Baselitz and Kiefer). Some of the currently active artists that I'm trying to follow are Anish Kapoor, Christian Boltanski, Anselm Kiefer and (out of sheer curiosity ) Damien Hirst. |
Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 06:01
I'm no expert on fractals, but as I understand it, it's using mathematical formulas to describe natural phenomenon, ie fern leaves....they self-replicate.....the left side of a fern leaf is a mirror image of the right side, and fractal patterns are infinite, ie mandelbrot fractals, where the whole pattern consists of an infinitely smaller version of the whole pattern. All the more astounding to see fractal patterns when you're tripping.....that must be mathematically / chemically induced.
Check out Fractint (freeware....public domain).
E8 = Spirograph
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Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 06:14
What's less mundane than religion ? It's only purpose is to serve human beings, just like the concept of time, which Dali was also fascinated by.
And I think Warhol was just good at hyping gullible people. imo
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Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 06:25
THAT'S the fascination of Bosch, for me.....he did'nt have Surrealism, to be inspired by. So where the Hell (pun intended) did he get his inspiration from?
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 06:39
Huh. While I agree on all your points about Dali (and seeing his paintings in the flesh was quite an underwhelming experience), I couldn't work up any kind of aggression against him. Far from it, I'm thankful he existed and made the world less dull. Calculated or not, would you want to be without all the stories about his eccentric publicity stunts? ...he was to borrow a friend’s white Rolls Royce Phantom II, fill it to the roof with 500 kg of cauliflower, and drive it to the Sorbonne in Paris. Then he would disembark and enter the school to give a lecture he’d impossibly titled, ‘Phenomenological Aspects of the Paranoiac Critical Method... Duchamp is no hero of mine, but he was about fifty years ahead of his time, smart, funny + he challenged the artworld in a time when that actually involved taking risks. A true artist and avantgardist. Max Ernst is my favorite among the surrealists. Both his collages and paintings.  ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 06:54
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._C._Escher - M.C. Escher (1898-1972) -------------
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 07:01
Well, I'm glad you got better. Still to be so dismissive I can't help but think that there's a lot of it you haven't seen. It is the stereotype that artist's works only make money after they are dead. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 07:38
I'd say yes. If for no other reason, it shows that the artist was ahead of their time, and misunderstood.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 09:52
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I notice almost everyone here likes the more avant-garde style of art. Perhaps that ties in with our love for obscure music as well?
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 13:54
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Probably. Though with art I do like "normal" stuff. A really nice painting of a landscape or person is, nice. of course avant art FTW |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 16:04
Really? ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 16:10
I like many types of art...just like music. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 17:37
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Yes, really. Having said that, I do like some Vermeer and Cézanne as well. -------------
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 22:14
Jon, you're not a real physicist if you can't explain every math related article on Wikipedia! I was going to post that picture I had in my sig a while ago of St Michael with all the lines, but I forgot the artist's name and I deleted the file so oh well. Here is some art http://boohooboo.tumblr.com/post/962804803 - by John Campbell .
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 23:08
I don't know who made this or anything about it, but I just found it during a google image search for fish and it made me laugh:  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 23:22
Wow, how pretentiously emo. That was actually your art wasn't it? |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 23:40
| Haven't you ever read Pictures for Sad Children? It's a joke. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 23:47
| Nah man that aint me |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 25 2010 at 03:35
If I noticed anything its that PA's members in general doesn't seem to be genuinely interested in any other artform than music, and certainly nothing avant-garde. What does avant-garde mean to you? Less than 100 years old? I don't blame you or others for not paying attention to the "avant-garde scene" as its mostly pastiche, selfparody or about creating something tabloid friendly and "shocking", anyway. But your conlusion tells me that you must be misinformed. Two of the shared pieces of art here was once considered avant-garde... 90 years ago. But Picasso's cubism and Kandinski early abstracts are now so conventional you can probably get a reproduction of both of those paintings at IKEA. Dali and Escher is just the easiest to find and easy to like stuff for kids (my two teenage faves) or people with no time for art. Beksinski looks like a very talented teenager, but there's certainly nothing avant-garde about him either. Even if Cézanne died over 100 years ago, he is still more at the forefront than he will ever be. But, I prefer the dead, european guys myself. Here's a fellow countryman, Lars Hertervig. Of course he died poor and mentally ill. These are all 1860's, and probably my favorite landscapes ever made:     ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 25 2010 at 03:42
Sorry, but that's utter bollocks. Most avant-garde contemporary art takes place outside of white-walled galleries which is why most people who aren't in some way actively involved in underground culture scenes simply aren't aware of it. The kind of art you're referring to here isn't avant-garde at all; most of it's still rooted in post-modernism which has been with us since the sixties! |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 25 2010 at 04:51
We're obviously not in full agreement because I think in what passes for avant-garde, both the institutionalized and the underground is full of people recirculating old ideas and presenting them as something new. You seem to think of avant-garde as a protected term, which can only be used if its the real deal, and not if its "fake". Fine, but I was thinking about how the art world probably looks from the outside. Not for someone on the inside like you or your underground friends, I don't know who you are (but I'm quite certain I don't share your positive enthusiasm, and won't find it as fantastic as you do). And I wrote "avant-garde scene" didn't I? ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 25 2010 at 05:38
Oh, I'd never pretend that there isn't a lot of old ideas being dredged up in the underground scene(s), as it's something I myself was guilty of, especially whilst at uni. I think avant-garde ought to be a protected term insofar as it has more to do with a conscious decision to try and push things in a new, different and challenging direction. Perhaps the kind of tabloid-baiting artists you mentioned genuinely do have that mindset and I'm being a little hard on them, but for me they're pretty much the antithesis of avant-garde practice. I wouldn't say I'm wholly positive about the underground scenes I've been involved with. At their best, they offer a sense of community and an encouraging environment in which to develop and stretch one's practice to the limits. At their worst they are insular, snobbish and self-indulgent. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 25 2010 at 07:02
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It's really difficult to nominate anything really avantgarde these days, isn't it? The most "out there" thing for me is the super-digitalized new-media "art", which I find awful and boring. In my understanding the most avantgarde artists these days are actually the "ariere-garde", those who try to keep alive the traditional arts despite the general consensus in the art world that they are culturally retarded, ideologically dangerous, somewhat stupid and bad for society's and culture's "progress". If you're doing your stuff against everyone else's attempts to put you down then it's surely a form of "avantgarde". IMO all of the trends generated by the 20th century (formalism, the avantgarde, social plastique, post-modernism) have pretty much exhausted their potential and something new needs to emerge. But I don't have any clue what that will be. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 25 2010 at 07:10
| Christer, I've just seen the exhibition Munch ou l'anti Cri here in Paris and I was so very pleasantly surprised. The idea was to show Munch outside the cliches about him and his most famous works and they pretty much achieved this goal. I love the "Nordic" spirit of most of his art, which actually can be seen better, in a more genuine form, without the dark/"gothic" cliches he became famous for (like the Cry or the Madonnas). Do you feel him and his art as an influence? |
Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: August 25 2010 at 07:19
Some peoples love of art started before IKEA. IKEA obviously like avant-garde art, too.
What is an art critic? Someone who can't paint, but sl*gs off everyone who can.
(Did you hear that, Brian Sewell?)
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 25 2010 at 08:23
Hey, I was just questioning James' rather absurd conclusion that most people here seems to prefer avant-garde. In their time Caravaggio, Goya and Velasques were all more radically ahead of their time than Picasso and Kandinsky, but liking them in 2010 doesn't make you an avant-garde fan anymore. They are all part of the great, established names of art history. Get it? And I'm not an art critic, but someone who can paint. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 25 2010 at 08:57
He's had a great influence on just about every norwegian artist of the last 100 years. A country with 4,5 million people and one artist so much more famous and profilic than any other, its simply unavoidable. But I think he is a brilliant painter, a great artist and a perfect idol for any aspiring artist. I love both his dark/gothic cliches and his later, more painterly expressionist style of workers and such. But even more than that I love his melancholic and angsty work:    ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 25 2010 at 09:34
^ I saw the first painting you posted at the exhibition  Also, the catalog is great, one of the best I've ever seen. I understand quite well what you're saying about his influence, in Romania it was the same; most of the modern painters started with a huge influence from Grigorescu, the 19th century Barbizon/impressionist painter who founded the modern Romanian school. Here are some of his works (unfortunately there isn't much on the internet):         He was an exceptional designer and caricaturist:    And an self portrait:  |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 14:19
| The greatest Monet exhibition of the last three decades has just opened, here's a first review: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/8015094/Claude-Monet-exhibition-First-impressions-at-long-last.html - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/8015094/Claude-Monet-exhibition-First-impressions-at-long-last.html |