Magma vs. Cardiacs
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Topic: Magma vs. Cardiacs
Posted By: SaltyJon
Subject: Magma vs. Cardiacs
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:15
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ONLY VOTE IF YOU KNOW BOTH BANDS. These two are my main musical obsessions right now. Pretty different styles between the two; where Magma is often dark and moody, Cardiacs are often loud and playful. Both have produced several albums which I would consider masterpieces (though I will admit I'm not as familiar with a majority of the Cardiacs albums, that will change soon enough). ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:20
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C'mon Jon Yes, the Cardiacs are really good, but nobody can match Magma  although I've admitted only heard a handful of Cardiacs material |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:21
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I'd comfortably say they were about equal in my book.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:25
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Well, in my situation, when I want cheery/playful music I generally don't go the avant-garde route, so yeah |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:26
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I wouldn't exactly call them "cheery". Most of my favorite bizarre/playful groups are from RIO/Avant...these guys, Samla Mammas Manna, etc.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:29
| Yeah Samla Mammas Manna are another group that I feel similarly about. I like their music but it's a tad too silly/ADD for me |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:31
| The Cardiacs - without any hesitation. MDK bores me to death. |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:34
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Hmm I've always wanted to try The Cardiacs. What album should I begin with? |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:36
I'll provide two tracks here. If you like the first one more, start with A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window, and if you like the second, start with Sing to God (they're both available on iTunes, with Sing to God being in two parts, both necessary IMO). If you don't like either one...run away!!!  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:36
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I'm not as familiar with the Cardiacs, though I've heard a few albums, and various other tracks, whereas I have over twenty Magma albums, so voting would be unfair. That said, while I really like The Cardiacs, it hasn't had the effect on me that Magma has. Magma was revelatory. The Cardiacs are very good, though, and I need to get more of the music. I haven't listened to the Cardiacs in a long time, and I'm listening again to Sing to God -- love it. Hadn't listened in ages. They're very different. It was about time we had a Pronk vs. Zeuhl poll. Usually it's all Cardiacs vs. The Residents and Magma vs. Koenjihyakkei (which is also punky) etc. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:38
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Yeah, I figured this was a poll which hadn't been done very often (if at all) so I decided to go for it.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:39
Okay, thanks!
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:44
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I'm glad you did do this topic, because of it I'm revisiting Cardiacs' music, and will be delving deeper into the band's music. Aside from discovering new-to-me music, one thing I love about such topics is that they can prompt me to re-listen to music I haven't heard in quite a while.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:45
| Gotta say, I really dig both. I think I may prefer the first slightly more. |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:46
Well I suppose we can indirectly thank both Trouserpress and Rune2000 as well then, because Rune2000's review of Sing to God was what got me to listen to them again recently, when I really fell in love with that album, and TP recommended me an order in which to check out the rest of their material (which I've done thanks to iTunes) which really made the music grab me even tighter. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:48
Then either would probably be a good starting point. If you're going for cost-effectiveness (in case you don't like the band or something) I'd say A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window since it's only one disc and therefore only $9.99 on iTunes instead of StG's two discs and 2x $9.99. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 15:11
I knew Cardiacs' music before joining PA, but Trouserpress' abundant enthusiasm got me into exploring it more after I joined PA. I don't often look at PA reviews , but I have noted that Rune has written good reviews of much music I really like. I had read Alexander's (Rune2000) review of Sing to God before because there was a topic where someone was, as I recall, slamming Cardiacs and I was looking up the reviews of the albums (perhaps there was a reported review for Sing to God? A few years ago I would have remembered such things easily, but my memory loss is another topic. Maybe I was just looking into some rater's ratings since a low rating of something piqued my interest). ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 15:14
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Yeah, it wasn't even reading the review that got me to listen to it again, but I saw the album art and felt like listening to it. As I was listening the other day, I did read the review though, and enjoyed it.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 15:27
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Cardiacs must be better than Magma, but i won't vote. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: lensag
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 15:53
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never heard the cardiacs so no vote for me! ------------- "when routine bites hard and ambitions are low, and resentment rides high but emotions won´t grow And we´re changing our ways, taking different roads.. Then love, love will tear us apart again.." |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 16:10
I think you might like Cardiacs, at least I hope so. Have a listen to this: There's lots of music at youtube. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 17:00
I doubt you would like them |
Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 17:42
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Cardiacs are a band I feel like I should like, but for some reason don't. Their sound (re: his voice) really grates on me after a couple songs. Magma on the other hand... |
Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 17:47
I tend to agree with this sentiment, the vocals are a huge turn off for me, I dislike them greatly. I really don't find the music interesting enough to endure those vocals either. The Cardiacs are not a terrible band by any means, but they're not one that I reach for very often at all. ------------- 
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Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 18:11
Cardiacs for me.  I've been listening to them for a year now and they are still going strong. Here is my favorite of their videos: As for Magma, I only started listening to them somewhere around the release of Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré so I still have a lot of ground to uncover. |
Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 19:01
this |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: September 02 2010 at 08:03
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Cardiacs escape me - is Sing to God that good? May try it one day.... ------------- 
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: September 02 2010 at 08:07
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: September 02 2010 at 08:35
It's a good indication of their early stuff but their later albums (including the much lauded Sing to God) is a very VERY different kettle of fish. This video is a perfect example of their more sober, less frenetic side: I adore both of these bands and couldn't imagine living without either, but My Loyalty Demands. Cardiacs it is. |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 02 2010 at 08:37
^ Somehow I knew that would be how you'd vote. 
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: September 02 2010 at 16:56
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Magma. I can understand why people love the Cardiacs so much, but they've never done it for me (even though Guapo axeman Kavus Torabi is in the current touring line up). ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: September 02 2010 at 16:59
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Cardiacs without hesitation. I like Magma, but never was as crazy about them as about Cardiacs. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 02 2010 at 17:02
What I've heard recently ( The debut) I quite like. So you are correct and Cardiacs get my vote. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 02 2010 at 17:04
I have no idea why you would say that. You don't even know me.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 02 2010 at 19:16
Not true, he's stated in an interview that the Cardiacs are never touring again (due to Tim's health, I assume).  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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