Palepoli vs. Zarathustra
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Topic: Palepoli vs. Zarathustra
Posted By: Anthony H.
Subject: Palepoli vs. Zarathustra
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 18:58
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Which of these RPI classics do you prefer?
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 19:05
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Oooh, good matchup!! I'll have to listen again to both before I can vote though....its been a while. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sQD8uhpWXCw" rel="nofollow - It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood...Road Rage Edition |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 19:12
I'll have to listen to both since I haven't yet. 
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Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 19:16
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I listened to both quite recently and like Zarathustra more than Palepoli
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 19:29
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Tough call.
I'll give it to Zarathustra. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: bov
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 21:22
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Never quite got into Palepoli. Zarathustra for sure. About Zarathustra though... Were Museo Rosenbach really fascist supporters, as they apparently were said to be in the 70s? Even if I tried, I'd understand less than 10% of the lyrics. I really like the album but I'd have a hard time listen to it again if I knew there were fascist undertones on it... |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 21:27
I think you'll dig Palepoli, Jon. ------------- |
SaltyJon wrote:Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 21:30
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^^From what I've heard Raff and Andrea say on occasion, and from what I remember, the charges were largely false. Maybe one of them will pipe in on this. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sQD8uhpWXCw" rel="nofollow - It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood...Road Rage Edition |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 21:34
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Things got even worse for Museo
Rosenbach, a band that was openly accused of fascism and practically
forced to quit the scene because of the art cover of their album
“Zarathustra” and because of their lyrics inspired by the philosopher
Friederich Nietzsche. Alberto Moreno, bassist of Museo Rosenbach:
- The seventies had been extremely politicized, but these issues were
own business of the single members of the band. Muso Rosenbach, as a
group, used to follow only a musical path, bound to English and American
pop-rock or Italian bands like PFM and BMS. Area were open sided but
they were an exception among the bands. We were aware of their
commitment but we never thought to counterpoint their commitment with
right wing oriented proposals... The face of Mussolini on the album
cover was a choice of the art designer. The references to Nietzsche
instead were clear and they were an important part of our message. On
the original album jacket we tried to explain that you shouldn’t
interpret Nietzsche as one of the inspirers of Nazism like they used to
do in those years. We used to read the philosopher in a “softer” way,
without any forced political interpretations. Unfortunately our
explanation wasn’t understood and we realized that sometimes images are
more important than words. I admit that the black of the art cover and the bust of Mussolini didn’t help us. But we have paid for these ingenuities RTE_textarea.asp?mode=editTopic&POID=2345095&ID=1795#_ftn30 - - .
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 21:36
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^Andrea covers more about the period politics of RPI bands in his great overview, http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=33377&FID=58&PN=3 - link here
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 21:43
It's based of the book Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Nietzsche. I'm not particularly well-versed in Neitzsche's work, but this book deals with a parable of the Overman ("Superuomo" on the album). Many people used Neitzsche's ideas to grant idealogical credibility to fascism, but Museo Rosenbach were probably much more interested in the philosophy itself rather than certain misguided interpretations of it. ------------- |
Posted By: bov
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 21:52
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The quotes originally posted by Andrea cleared things up a bit. They actually seem pretty innocent on the case of spreading fascist propaganda, although guilty of extreme stupidity. I mean seriously, why did they even go close to that territory in a land with a recent history of brutal fascism? |
Posted By: friso
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 03:11
| Palepoli is brilliant! It's just a bit uneasy to get into. |
Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 10:17
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Palepoli for me
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 23:22
| I have heare Pallepoli a few times, and though I may still need to give it another chance, I have not been able to get much enjoyment out of it. Sure it's got some haunting moments, but as far as I my musical understanding allows me, I find it too chaotic (I really loved Il Balleto di Bronzo's "YS", though). I wonder if Zarathustra woud do better for me. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 23:22
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Posted By: Okocha
Date Posted: October 11 2010 at 03:07
| Zarathustra is a masterpiece! |
Posted By: Takeshi Kovacs
Date Posted: October 11 2010 at 09:40
Agree! -------------  Open the gates of the city wide....
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Posted By: AA
Date Posted: October 11 2010 at 11:23
| A supporting vote to Palepoli, which is a tad more adventurous and daring than Zarathustra, which is still a five-star in my book. But really Palepoli should have more supporters, give it time! |