Mott the Hoople
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Topic: Mott the Hoople
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: Mott the Hoople
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 13:55
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is their any expert on this band/artist, i have been seing albums at the record store and they are tempting me
what do I get when listening to Mott the Hoople
any album recommandation is welcomed
also any other glam rock (not metal), would also be cool) I Have Bowie albums so he is coverd
but this is mostly about Mott
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 14:00
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ok I found a song I knew of
but it sounds like Bowie  -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 14:02
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I have The Hoople album which pretty much like a lot. Its a mixed bag though and tthey may have rode the Glam bandwagon they are not reallya Glam Rock band. What is Glam rock supposed to sound like anyway? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 14:04
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well from my prespective it is rock'n 'roll with a dose of showman ship, and english sharm , -------------
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 14:08
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I see through their songlists and i Spot some ten minutte songs but they are not on you tube -------------
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Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 14:48
This:
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Snow Dog wrote:Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 14:56
Yeah....it was kinda rhetorical......but if this is it...Mott The Hoople are not. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 15:19
^ Oh, sorry... kinda concrete thinking on my part then. 
I thought aginor would enjoy this anyway, especially with old Reg tickling the ivories.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 16:21
There's a very good reason why it sounds like Bowie - he wrote it. I like some of Mott the Hoople - All the Way from Memphis, Roll Away the Stone, Violence, Saturday Gigs to name a few. They remind me a bit of early Roxy Music at times. I suppose they're sort of glam rock but not in the same way as Slade, Sweet and T.Rex. |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 21:02
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There first album is quite good, almost proto. This one:
http://www.amazon.com/Mott-Hoople/dp/B0000AJ5T7/ref=sr_1_6?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1288317680&sr=1-6">  ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 05:35
I didn't even notice what track he was referring to. Yes he picked the only Bowie written one.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 10:29
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the band changed significantly when Bowie gave them that song. Prior to that they had been a fine but pretty much unknown rock band. They appeared on the "Bumpers" sampler (featuring the mighty "Thunderbuck ram" and made a couple of very good albums.
"ATYDs" gave them a hit single, and they changed almost ovenight into a pop/rock/glam act. They still made good music, but it was much more commercial. Try "Wildlife" and "Mad shadows" if you want to discover the original Mott The Hoople.
Incidentally, Mott carried on after Ian Hunter left, and made a couple of decent albums too.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 10:31
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^Shouting and Pointing. Mick Ronson joined very briefly but left with Hunter. Or did he die? Incidently Mick Ronson's two solo albums are really good. Disagree with you about them being a pop/rock (OK this yes) /Glam act.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 10:32
cool will doo  -------------
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 10:32
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The Hoople, that's who Queen was the opening act for in the early days wasn't it? ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 10:33
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^yeppers ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 10:34
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoRaAEzYuyM&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoRaAEzYuyM&feature=related this is Mott's -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 10:38
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Although this nsong may be an exception..its still good ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 10:40
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This is one of my very favourite songs from them from the same album (The Hoople) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Matthew T
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 18:28
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I liked the Live one
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: October 30 2010 at 01:43
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Just a quick look at that first Mott The Hoople album (the one with the Escher cover), which is sorta kinda proggy.
Track 1: Instrumental version of You Really Got Me. Ya got the piano/organ mix that Procol et. al. picked up from Blonde on Blonde. Pure rock. Nice solid guitar from Mick Ralphs.
Track 2: At The Crossroads. Written by ol' Sir Douglas Sahm himself. More Blonde on Blonde influence. Solid piece of music.
Track 3: Laugh At Me. Written by ol' Sonny Bono hisself...you know, that Sonny & Cher guy. It's too bad we don't remember him as the occasionally gifted songwriter that he was. The Blonde on Blonde influence is again pronounced. Hunter's vocals are as heartfelt as any that would come later. Why do you laugh at me?
Track 4: Backsliding Fearlessly. Well it's got that sort of Dylan lyrical rhythm and Hunter is trying his best imitation thereof and the band is certainly up to it. Still not a bad song.
Editorial interlude: My version of this, which is a remaster with bonus cuts, is great sounding. We get all the detail and it can be played at a reasonably loud volume without inducing permanent hearing damage. This was a great rock band. This was a great debut.
Track 5: Rock and Roll Queen. I was naive. I had no idea what this song was about at the time, I just thought it was a great rocker. "You're just a rock and roll queen you know what I mean, I'm just a rock and roll star." It still is a great rocker. Layers and layers of guitars are piled on this track, all meaningful.
Track 6: Rabbit Foot and Toby Time. Instrumental with a proto-prog bent. Make no mistake, these guys were listening to their contemporaries. We know that because it immediately morphs into
Track 7: Half Moon Bay. Growling Hammond, glockenspielingly-ringing guitar, which starts raging and somehow settles into solace, without missing a beat or chord. Lyrically astute and as always Dylan-esque, the song continues in this vein, until we get a nice piano/organ interlude. I suppose it's Bach. I'd have to check. But then the piano turns a bit darker, and we get pure Hammond growl. I love this stuff...pure Hammond growl. The piano simply reconceives the chording of the song, the ringing guitar returns. The song reignites to where it started. My friends, this is pure prog. You still are in doubt, sez Ian.
Track 8: Wrath and Wroll. Kinda noisy jamming, attributed to Guy Stevens. Say no more.
The remastered version has a more than decent live cover of Ohio.
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 30 2010 at 04:07
Wasn't that Hustler? "Get outta my 'ouse", pirannahs" and all that.
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: October 30 2010 at 20:18
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Wow! Seeing the cover of the live album brings me back....wore my vinyl out as a kid.
Mott was a heavy rock act that put out some great stuff on the Atlantic label but poor sales and constant touring drowned them. Then Bowie glammed them up and wrote a hit for them and they took off.
I prefer the early Mott....Half Moon Bay from the first album! There's a very cheap compilation available that sweeps together some excellent stuff from their Atlantic years.....except Half Moon Bay!
Brain Capers and the first two are my faves....post-Bowie stuff is groovy, too. Especially the recently augmented live album....except no other.....that live album I wore out as a kid was just the tip of the iceburg, they've doubled the length and added some killer stuff. ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: October 30 2010 at 20:48
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^"except no other?" Wow! Me English very not good. Except that I'm an English teacher! ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 30 2010 at 20:50
You can go back and edit it. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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