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Topic: Progest Miles Davis
Posted By: jean-marie
Subject: Progest Miles Davis
Date Posted: December 02 2010 at 17:56
What is your progest favourite Miles Davis album? Mine is IN A SILENT WAY , not forgetting it's a ZAWINUL compositionWink



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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: December 02 2010 at 17:59
He Loved Him Madly


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: December 02 2010 at 18:25
Hey you've got beautiful albums!!! i even see lucas sideras ,i'm amazed ,i thought i was the only one to listen to thatThumbs Up


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 02 2010 at 18:37
Good stuff in a prog way made from In A Silent Way until he took the big break and went totally crazy according to his autobiography.  It's a really good read if you haven't yet already.

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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: December 02 2010 at 21:55
In A Silent Way is totally influential to musicans around the globe. My favorite though is Bitches Brew. A Tribute To Jack Johnson runs a close race for me. I have felt in the past that Sketches Of Spain touches progressive territory in a quite different way. The guy was a genius and he opened paths NOT only for the great jazz/fusion musicans who were signed to record labels and had bands of their own but, thousands of unknown musicans that travelled the road in America. His influence on European musicians was very important as well. I am lucky Miles was born.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 02 2010 at 22:43
Perhaps not the main intent of the thread but...
 
I was told his most prog album (I'm assuming in a sense to get him added to this site...meaning not progressive jazz) was Dark Magus. I bought it...and damn is it jazz. So, not to hijack the thread, but was this a poor album to recommend? 


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Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.


Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: December 02 2010 at 22:57
Dark Magus as jazz? More like relentlessly heavy funk.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 02 2010 at 23:38
Idk. I hear alot of jazz...sure some funk...but certainly nothing in the realm of rock.

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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.


Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: December 03 2010 at 00:13
Live Miles in the mid-70s is like a denser version of Wetton-era King Crimson. Pete Cosey, Reggie Lucas and Dominique Gaumont are six-string noise terrorists.The intensity these guys work up (and sustain) is unbelievable.


Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: December 03 2010 at 07:59
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Live Miles in the mid-70s is like a denser version of Wetton-era King Crimson. Pete Cosey, Reggie Lucas and Dominique Gaumont are six-string noise terrorists.The intensity these guys work up (and sustain) is unbelievable.
Absolutely one hundred percent correct! A total often misunderstood and thrown by the wayside point of reference. This is also a very true detailed aspect in history that is not realized by all and very sad to not be. I am totally impressed with your observation because it spells out honesty for musicans and hard-core fans.Clap 


Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: December 03 2010 at 08:31
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

He Loved Him Madly
 
Exactly, Get Up With It and Big Fun are no doubt his proggiest albums. Bitches Brew would fall under the category too I suppose.


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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: December 03 2010 at 09:12
Bitches brew for me.But I agree with Queen Jane too.


Posted By: Adams Bolero
Date Posted: December 03 2010 at 09:24
Agharta and Pangaea are his progest albums in my opinion.

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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: December 03 2010 at 09:35
I quite agree about AGHARTA ,even the art cover is progBig smile


Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: December 03 2010 at 21:56
Originally posted by Adams Bolero Adams Bolero wrote:

Agharta and Pangaea are his progest albums in my opinion.
Yes, they are very prog! I must play these tonight. excellent !


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 03 2010 at 22:06
Alrights...I'll add Agharta, Pangaea, Get Up With It, and Big Fun to my list of things to get eventually.

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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.


Posted By: Pete A.
Date Posted: December 07 2010 at 21:22
I'm glad someone mentioned "He loved Him Madly". What a classic proto ambient piece of music, that even Miles Davis fans dismiss.

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Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 00:20

Manfred Eicher sent Mils Davis the letter in the past. It was a request said that it would want you to record Solo Album and to announce with ECM.

It is said that Miles Davis was broken without reading the letter and thrown away. It was made remarks that working with the person who did not know was unpleasant.

It will have been an action of which the character of Miles Davis had indeed gone out ahead.

If Miles Davis announced Solo Album, it might be very interesting.



Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 00:35
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Idk. I hear alot of jazz...sure some funk...but certainly nothing in the realm of rock.

re your above remark about Dark Magus: thats weird because a lot of the beats and approach on this album are pure proto-punk rock, albeit the solos on top are free jazz and RnB jazz. The rest of the album is a mix of free funk jazz, and avant-garde.

I don't know about "proggiest", but my favorite electric Miles records are:
Agharta
Pangea
Dark Magus
Get up with It
Big Fun
the new complete On the Corner boxset


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 07:39
What about AURA? composed and produced by palle mikkelborg for miles on1985, not my favourite miles album but realy prog. Palle played the trumpet for a great terje rypdal album ( descendre ) I wish rypdal and miles recorded together, so sad it's too lateBroken Heart


Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 13:33
Interesting suggestion. Even the most die-hard Miles fans have difficulty with his 80s work. I would say that, despite the presence of loads of smooth jazz, there are still plenty of masterful works that are worth re-evaluating. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if memory serves, Aura is the one based around several colours/modes and was kept from release for a few years, right?


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 13:41
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Interesting suggestion. Even the most die-hard Miles fans have difficulty with his 80s work. I would say that, despite the presence of loads of smooth jazz, there are still plenty of masterful works that are worth re-evaluating. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if memory serves, Aura is the one based around several colours/modes and was kept from release for a few years, right?

Yes, that is Aura.
Re his 80s work: it can be inconsistent, but I really like 'We want Miles', 'Star People' and 'Amandla', all the other 80s albums have something good on each one.


Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 13:50
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Interesting suggestion. Even the most die-hard Miles fans have difficulty with his 80s work. I would say that, despite the presence of loads of smooth jazz, there are still plenty of masterful works that are worth re-evaluating. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if memory serves, Aura is the one based around several colours/modes and was kept from release for a few years, right?


Aura was composed and arranged entirely by Palle Mikkelborg but goes out with the MD moniker carelessly scribbled to the cover art. (Miles is tantamount to a guest soloist) It's decent but rather airily ambient in places and the 'stiffness' of his collaborators is hardly the ideal platform for Davis.


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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 14:20
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Interesting suggestion. Even the most die-hard Miles fans have difficulty with his 80s work. I would say that, despite the presence of loads of smooth jazz, there are still plenty of masterful works that are worth re-evaluating. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if memory serves, Aura is the one based around several colours/modes and was kept from release for a few years, right?

Yes, that is Aura.
Re his 80s work: it can be inconsistent, but I really like 'We want Miles', 'Star People' and 'Amandla', all the other 80s albums have something good on each one.


Ever heard 'Live Around the World'? I find it to be a great sampler of what his 80s bands were capable of doing onstage.

I'm still waiting for those tapes he did with Prince...


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 18:09
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:


Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Interesting suggestion. Even the most die-hard Miles fans have difficulty with his 80s work. I would say that, despite the presence of loads of smooth jazz, there are still plenty of masterful works that are worth re-evaluating. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if memory serves, Aura is the one based around several colours/modes and was kept from release for a few years, right?

Yes, that is Aura.
Re his 80s work: it can be inconsistent, but I really like 'We want Miles', 'Star People' and 'Amandla', all the other 80s albums have something good on each one.
Ever heard 'Live Around the World'? I find it to be a great sampler of what his 80s bands were capable of doing onstage. I'm still waiting for those tapes he did with Prince...

I have some live Miles stuff from the 80s on a couple cassettes, its good music. Amandla was a good direction for him late in life, I think in some ways that was finally the music he always wanted to do.
I saw him live in San Francisco a couple months before he passed away and it was an incredible concert. They played a lot of the Amandla style, but Foley also ripped of some great psychedelic guitar solos to re-call the mid 70s Pete Cosey sound.
The cover version of Time After Time was way slowed down and was one of the most moving pieces of music I have ever heard, people were yelling out like it was a church service.
I've seen videos of Miles on stage with Prince, they both seem to enjoy each others limelight.


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: December 09 2010 at 07:54
A lot of poeple sarted to grin when miles did the cindy lauper cover but i just love it and it's fine to know i'm not aloneBig smile


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 09 2010 at 09:26
Originally posted by jean-marie jean-marie wrote:

A lot of poeple sarted to grin when miles did the cindy lauper cover but i just love it and it's fine to know i'm not aloneBig smile

The live version in his latter years was like a requiem. The tempo was slowed and the beat and harmonies became abstract, just his trumpet fragmenting the melody and then a slow massive wall of keyboards for the two chords in the chorus, it was the highlight of the show I saw.


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 14:26
Think i can imagine what it looklikes, kind of massWink



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