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Topic: Show me a prog David Bowie song
Posted By: The_Jester
Subject: Show me a prog David Bowie song
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 17:44
I'm certain that David Bowie isn't here for nothing but I never heard something from him that was close to prog. If you can show me it'll be appreciated.

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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 17:54
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 18:04
As a Prog Related artist, I think he has a fair amount of material with a prog (music in prog categories such as Krautrock) relation (and I could see him in Crossover for the Berlin trilogy).

From Low:

[tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gy94N_mcWs[/tube]

From "Heroes":

[tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=021qiWnL944[/tube]

[tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1p-i7ElYtw[/tube]




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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 18:09
An artist added that makes no sense?

Shocked
Never





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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 18:21
Originally posted by JJLehto

An artist added that makes no sense?

Shocked
Never





Agreed, they all have some kind of sense behind them whether people agree or not, or understand the reasons behind the additions. Too often people have called additions nonsense without being familiar enough with the artist's music or without understanding the artist's relation to music/ categories in PA (or not being familiar enough with the music scenes/ idioms that one finds a relation to).

Just cause I like this track, by the way:

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Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 18:32
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 18:36
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 18:22

In his early material you can plainly hear the influence of Syd Barrett. He falls into the old and unique proggy singer songwriter a few years after Syd became a hermit or during that time. Space Oddity has that oddball English prog style which derived from that era. During the Berlin period when he worked with Fripp and Eno the music was perhaps more intense. The mystery for me is the un-released Glastonbury Fayre performance where he showed to the stage with an acoustic guitar. Supposedly he performed early versions of bizzare songs that later became classics but, more in a folk style.



Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 09:30
Like Roxy Music, Gabriel & Hammill, Bowie used to be Art Rock, didn't he?

African Night Flight
from Lodger (a truly underrappreciated album) reminds me of The Residents. A far out nursery rhyme:
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Over the bushland over the trees
Wise like Orangutang that was me


Red Sails. Kraut/Motorik (as in Neu!) + new wave:

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The hinterland, the hinterland

Were going to sail to the hinterland
It is far far far far far far away far far far da da da






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Posted By: ProgressiveAttic
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 10:03
not prog (although the lyrics would be perfect for a prog song ).... but for some reason I find this extremely amusing :

[tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFoEjAMsmtg[/tube]

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Posted By: The_Jester
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 10:12
It really sounds a bit like the Residents! But more german.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 10:35
Originally posted by ProgressiveAttic

not prog (although the lyrics would be perfect for a prog song ).... but for some reason I find this extremely amusing :

[tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFoEjAMsmtg[/tube]

I was trying to find the real video to post. never found it so didn't bother.


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 10:54
Originally posted by Snow Dog

Originally posted by ProgressiveAttic

not prog (although the lyrics would be perfect for a prog song ).... but for some reason I find this extremely amusing :


I was trying to find the real video to post. never found it so didn't bother.

I don't understand - why did he put him on a train to Eastbourne?


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 11:04
Originally posted by chopper

Originally posted by Snow Dog

Originally posted by ProgressiveAttic

not prog (although the lyrics would be perfect for a prog song ).... but for some reason I find this extremely amusing :


I was trying to find the real video to post. never found it so didn't bother.

I don't understand - why did he put him on a train to Eastbourne?
To paraphrase Eddie Izzard¹, because that's where people go to die, and then they move to Bexhill
 
 
 
 
 
 
¹ paraphrased because I'm too lazy to look up the exact quote.


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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 17:21
Listen to A Small Plot of Land from the album 1.Outside

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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 17:48

Most of his Berlin-period work was prog if not all of it.



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Posted By: progvortex
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 23:59
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 03:35
Originally posted by The_Jester

I'm certain that David Bowie isn't here for nothing but I never heard something from him that was close to prog. If you can show me it'll be appreciated.
 
 
 
 
I'd have to gree that it's not really obvious why the glam icon  Bowie sits in prog-related at all when looking at its 7's material (except for maybe Space Oddity - the song)...... One of the main arguments was that Bowie's more progressive stuff was in his late 80's and early 90's albums (of which, outside a song here and there,  I don't know much, I must admit) that were indeed a tad more experimental than his glam days.... and I believe that's the argument that clinched it  for his inclusion.... but I never cared to find out about those albums.
 
Actually Bowie was quite a tough sell to many of us (yours truly included) and it took many months (probably over a year) to get him included by those who lobbied it.
Bowie's inclusion  later altered the general outlook of prog-related and opened the door (dare I say floodgates) for many other ever-so-slightly-prog artistes to be included


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Posted By: Harold-The-Barrel
Date Posted: January 05 2011 at 07:01
More space rock but here's one I always liked...

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Posted By: paganinio
Date Posted: June 23 2011 at 06:08
I think his 1977 album Low had some subtle influence to Pink Floyd's Animals. The ambient/Krautrock-esque proto-industrial soundscape can be experienced in both.


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Posted By: Warthur
Date Posted: June 23 2011 at 09:01
On Diamond Dogs the triptych of Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (Reprise) always makes my hair stand on end.


Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 23 2011 at 09:04
Originally posted by Warthur

On Diamond Dogs the triptych of Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (Reprise) always makes my hair stand on end.


Electrocution works for me that ain't prog either


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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: June 23 2011 at 09:21
No.Stern Smile
 
(Others already have -- very well.)  Wink
 
Anyway, guess what -- "prog" is a highly subjective notion. It is what we each think it is. Move along.


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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: June 23 2011 at 12:05
Space Oddity is pretty proggy to my ears and it sound very much like early king crimson. love that tune soo much the mellotron is fascinating.

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Posted By: JeanFrame
Date Posted: July 02 2011 at 10:00
Life on Mars has plenty of inventive stuff in it; maybe still too many pop elements as well though.


Posted By: The_Jester
Date Posted: July 02 2011 at 11:04
I listened to 1.Outside, incredible album, really proggy.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 02 2011 at 11:21
I think there´s a distinct kraut feel to this - and you can really hear how much Eno learned from Moebius and Roedelius - for then to influence Bowie on the Berliner trilogy. Some famous rock critics seem to forget where that desolate electronic vibe came from though, and that is a shame. Cluster should be up there in terms of inspiring a truckload of new-wave bands and moreover pioneering the whole ambient scene - vintage as well as the current.


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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: July 02 2011 at 13:46
elves and sh*t, man!
 
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 02 2011 at 17:46
Originally posted by zravkapt

elves and sh*t, man!
 
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Posted By: KarmaMan
Date Posted: July 09 2011 at 08:24
Virtually the entirety of Low and Heroes, which I suspect is the main reason he's here in the first place. More progressive than a thousand Genesis and Yes rip offs with their lame, second hand, arpeggio/mellotron infested 'compositions'


Posted By: MagicMoo
Date Posted: January 13 2012 at 13:13
Hi everybody!

Bowie's so called 'Berlin years' with albums Low and Heroes
contain songs, that one might call ambient music, which
surely via Brian Eno for example is related to Prog.
Also The Man who sold the World has The Width of a Circle
and The Supermen, songs that come close to Prog.


Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: January 13 2012 at 14:16
Side 2 of both "Low" and "Heroes" are, if not prog rock, at least pretty progressive. I'm sure Brian Eno had alot to do with it. Certainly good, experimental synth stuff! Cool


Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: January 13 2012 at 14:16
Yellow Brick Road, oh wait, my bad that is Elton John, he is here isn't he?


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 17:19
Originally posted by Logan

As a Prog Related artist, I think he has a fair amount of material with a prog (music in prog categories such as Krautrock) relation (and I could see him in Crossover for the Berlin trilogy).

From Low:

[tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gy94N_mcWs[/tube]

From "Heroes":

[tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=021qiWnL944[/tube]

[tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1p-i7ElYtw[/tube]




All of these are the prog Bowie but his Fripp and Eno connections are more than enough reason


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Posted By: paganinio
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 02:35
Originally posted by The_Jester

I listened to 1.Outside, incredible album, really proggy.
 
Its epic length of 74 minutes and 36 seconds really, really, really pleases me.
 
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Posted By: Big Ears
Date Posted: May 27 2012 at 07:32
The Width of a Circle
Baal's Hymn
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: May 27 2012 at 11:56
The song i would add, was allready mentioned.
 
So, lets put it in writing,
 
Bowie kind of defines the Prog related section, he is related not only because he makes a lot of Prog, on about 1/3 of his album, Prog tracks that would fit perfectly into a main prog genre, most of them shown in other posts.
 
He is also Prog related, because he have made albums with many Prog artists, like Fripp,Eno, Belew, Simon House, Roger Powell.
 
He is no mainstream pop artist. Yes he made some pop albums, and some bestsellers, but he was constantly changing and developing. Not many artists have made as diffrent albums as Bowie,
 
Start checking out "Outside", http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=18788" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=18788
And you may actualy wonder why he is "only" on PA as "Prog related"


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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: May 27 2012 at 12:11
Bowie was an art rock artist in general. No 20 minutes long prog epics, but still very progressive and original.

If he wouldn't go pop in 80's, I guess he would be in crossover prog section here. At least I believe that his Berlin Trilogy deserves to be praised as one of the key moments of post-1976 prog/minimalist prog, alongside wth Discipline.

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 28 2012 at 17:35

"1984" was the height of Progressive Disco. Eat your heart out Bee Gees!

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Posted By: The_Jester
Date Posted: May 28 2012 at 19:17
I must say Low and Heroes are extremely proggy too. They're quite good albums! Progressive disco? That's pretty odd but effectively I can't think of another way of naming it. Except maybe post-disco.

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