Sade for Post/Math Rock
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Forum Name: Suggest New Bands and Artists
Forum Description: Suggest, create polls, and classify new bands you would like included on Prog Archives
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Topic: Sade for Post/Math Rock
Posted By: Svetonio
Subject: Sade for Post/Math Rock
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 07:10
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Just suggestion.
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Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 07:18
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 07:20
You HAVE to be kidding  
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 07:27
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Am I in the wrong forum? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 07:27
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WTF! ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 07:29
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harmonium.ro wrote:Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 07:33
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Please don't add Sade to any genre here! Just a suggestion. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 07:38
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You can lock this topic, no problem |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 07:39
I didn't say you were crazy. Maybe hearing impaired.  |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 07:49
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Wouldn't she fit in the Björk- and Amos-Prog category  |
Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 07:59
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Sade is world music!
------------- Sonorous Meal show every Sunday at 20:00 (greek time) on http://www.justincaseradio.com |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 08:00
Well, i read that definition where somebody wrote: "...Originaly used to describes the bands as Stereolab..." : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVlKn8CU8bs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVlKn8CU8bs or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB9_lGm34bU&feature=related" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB9_lGm34bU&feature=related "..Disco Inferno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M
Then the writer mentioned Tortoise, Mogwai http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHO6pbjQ9ec" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHO6pbjQ9ec
So I'v been sure that Sade fits this definition of the subgenre; although she's miles above better than mentioned bands
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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 08:02
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Although Sade can be very math-rock sounding, I think she would be better in Indo-prog or Prog Electronic. |
Posted By: GentleGiant
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 08:30
Increasingly more often appear on this site more or strange suggestions for non-progressive rock artists ,seems to progarchives it's not complete .
------------- BeGiantForADay "This British band is just the cup of tea for aficionados who demand virtuosity,progress and originality in their mix." http://rateyourmusic.com/~GentleG |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 08:48
LOL! Stereolab isn't on PA. Using a pop song by a non-PA band as an argument for suggesting a band to PA is not a very good idea. Not even using a pop song of a prog band would be a good idea, but this even more so... And the Disco Inferno sample you gave is not by the band Disco Inferno, but the classic "Disco Inferno" funk song from the 70s Here is how Disco Inferno actually sounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLUr87Mnqo4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLUr87Mnqo4 They are not on PA either. You really have to become more acquainted with a genre before suggesting bands for it. And btw there is no actual resemblance between Sade and Tortoise or Mogwai. Using vibraphones to enrich the mood of a melancholic pop ballad doesn't make it post-rock. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 09:03
| This made my day. Thank you. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 09:10
This is the 75000th thread in PA-forum history! Quite a good one  
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 09:12
Indeed. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 09:26
I knew that Stereolab isnt at PA, I CHECKED, but the writer of that definition says that the term Post Math Rock is originaly used to describe them, Disco Inferno
and also this band, if I'm not wrong again:I stay with my opinion that Sade fits Post Math Rock definition, only I can add that she is NOT ordinary pop as e.g. Talk Talk. and that she IS greater as aswell much more innovative and more interesting an artist than Tortoise and Mogwai all together. Just my opinion, of course!
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 09:30
This is too much......
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 09:32
You have no idea what you are talking about my good man!
Sade would be a better fit in Tech/Extreme Prog Metal!
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 09:36
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When the "post-rock" term was coined, most of the bands it referred to were not progressive bands, but artsy post-punk/new-wave bands, which is why they are not on PA. Of the pioneers, only Bark Psychosis were progressive enough by PA standards; chek this out: The more you stand by your opinion that Sade is "much more innovative and more interesting an artist than Tortoise and Mogwai all together", the more you only discredit your discernment on judging what is progressive and what not. Which doesn't mean that you can't like Sade more than all the post-rock genre taken together, but that's a completely different thing. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 09:41
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Also, guys, don't forget this essential thread: forum_posts.asp?TID=67491&KW=ridiculous&title=ridiculous-band-additions" rel="nofollow - - Ridiculous Band Additions |
Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 09:43
stage decoration is definitely post/math  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 10:15
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I feel like we've been hit in the face with a pi.
------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 10:20
Actually Sade would be better instead of Tech/Extreme Prog Metal |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 10:20
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I can't see anything in the opening post - I assume we're talking about the Sade of smooth jazz "Smooth Operator" fame?
Surely not?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 10:31
oh yes. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 10:32
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Why do you not see the Youtube links Chopra? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 10:45
Quick
Somebody in the Admins make this thread invisible to Chris S
this is like giving him other stupid ideas like the ones just mentioned
I like Sade's slightly jazz music, though ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 10:54
Coz websites such as YouTube and Facebook are banned here in case we waste time on the Web when we should be working.
Good job I don't spend much time here then!
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 10:58
If Sade is "innovative and interesting" then either we're talking about a different Sade or the bland lounge jazz stuff I've heard from her is not representative of her overall style.
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 11:21
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 11:30
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 13:00
Hej, this one sounds cool, but there's something missing, it's like we could expect Sade to start singing any minute but it doesn't happen |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 13:25
| Well, one can imagine that the same "problem" was with for example Steely Dan; I can bet in hard cash that wasn't easy add! |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 13:27
Ah Steely Dan. Much scratching, kicking, and biting went along with that addition. ------------- 
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Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 13:28
oh yes, you can bet ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 13:31
| Steely Dan is much more progressive than Sade, though. |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 13:35
Really? Then I will be your friend!
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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 13:57
Seconded. ------------- 
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 13:58
This is the first suggestion thread to reach page #3 since quite a while 
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 14:02
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This thread made me actually listen to Sade for the first time in years. Still great stuff but I believe it is called 'pop'. Well that's only two letters difference from 'prog'. Hence the confusion probably. |
Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 14:02
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What a hillarious thread, you made my day , Sade for post rock ? certainly NOT. Svetonio, you may like her more than Mogwai and Tortoise but that is totaly different thing than being prog and adding her on PA, or worst case scenario adding her to post rock. ''I can add that she is NOT ordinary pop as e.g. Talk Talk'' - well i bet you haven't heard their 'Spirit of Eden' , it contains elements of rock, jazz, classical, and ambient music, and highly influential album on forthcoming post rock movement ------------- www.last.fm/user/angelmk 
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 14:34
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 14:36
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I must admit i am biased. I hate her and her type of music. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 14:36
Svetonio .. we can make friends because I like Sade too ... but you put it to an acid test if you are continuing to insist to have her included to post/math ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 14:47
As you can hear, Talk Talk' track is ordinary 80's synth pop music, just made to be a hit. Today it sounds dated.
Sade is quite different, a serious music, it was a fresh air in the stupid 80's! Also timeless, as the jazz version confirmed as well:
Angel, ej idem sad da proslavim i ovu našu Novu godinu u kafanče preko puta! Srećna i berićetna i tebi da bidne batke moj, i zdravlje puno !!! Happy New Year to all!
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 14:59
LOL That ^ has nothing to do with the reason why Talk Talk are on PA. If they were to be voted based on that ^, they would get rejected. Here, try this: |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 15:14
 I dont expect any adds, but if will be some - thats fine. I am not a musician or roadie from the bands I suggested; so I really dont care are they gonna be added or not.
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Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 18:08
Svetonio .. this is not the JUST FOR FUN section here, you must know  this is implemented for dealing with serious submissions, okay? ... because we run a serious website wih the aim to present serious prog artists ... oh well ... very serious indeed ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 19:06
No, the Marquis de Sharde. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: January 14 2011 at 05:58
I swear that no one suggestion which I posted was some kind of bad joking with this esteemed website. If some, or even all my suggestions sounds un-serious or even "joke", then sorry, but this is NOT my problem. Would I send PM with my supposed sugestion to some person in charge for censorship, and if I get green light then to post a suggestion in public, I mean here? I know, I know...Sade haters will say thats such a great idea
Well, except this suggestion, I read not so much negative comments on some other stuff I suggested; on contrary - one band, Tripcycle, was almost added.So I think that is nothing wrong because I have fun here. It doesnt mean that PA is silly website or something! Regards!
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 14 2011 at 06:33
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So you're saying this whole suggestion was a joke?
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