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Topic: CttE vs Tarkus intros
Posted By: Dellinger
Subject: CttE vs Tarkus intros
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 22:06
Both songs have a rather crazy beginning, which intro do you like better?



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Posted By: juandhaltrich
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 22:20
why i cant vote? someone explain me why?  i mean, PLEASE!
BTW, it will be a tough call, very tough indeed.
i think solid time of change is the more melodic one, as eruption is more powerful.  it´s difficult to say without thinking about it.
please someone tell me why i cant vote, please!


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 22:25
New users need to have 40 posts before they can vote.  It's a measure taken to try to cut down on vote manipulation, if I recall correctly. 

I vote for CttE. 


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Posted By: juandhaltrich
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 22:27
thanks...i´ll post 40 times in different threads to be able to vote then! lol


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 22:34
Originally posted by juandhaltrich juandhaltrich wrote:

thanks...i´ll post 40 times in different threads to be able to vote then! lol

That's the basic idea. Tongue


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Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 22:49
As much I love the rest of the song and album, I actually thought that the intro to CttE was a bit misconstrued. The drums are great, but everything just doesn't mesh. It's actually better live, from what I've heard, with more energy and such. 

But the Tarkus intro rules so it gets my vote!


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Posted By: AllP0werToSlaves
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 22:53
"Close To The Edge" just has that feel to me; I absolutely love their free-form sounding stuff. Steve Howe is one of the best guitarists in general, let alone the prog scene (IMO).


Posted By: WatcherOfTheSkies88
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 23:08
Definitely has to be the CTTE intro.... it's one of the most intense and amazing explosions of rock music that I've ever heard. The Tarkus intro is great too, but the CTTE is just stupendous!


Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 23:43
Can't say I've ever actually ever been huge on Tarkus ... but CTTE is amazing from the first note onward. 


Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 23:54
Close to The Edge, top prog!



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Posted By: POTA
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 23:58
I've been lurking for like six years; I should have voting rights. Angry


Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 00:29
from the first note (as someone just wrote) ... Close To The Edge!


Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 01:25
Comparing intros of two works of different form is a bit funny (CTTE is a symphonic work, whereas Tarkus is something of a rhapsody), but as pure music CTTE is much more innovative.

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Posted By: Harold-The-Barrel
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 01:41
Tarkus for me, I don't get the love for CttEConfused

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Posted By: petrica
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 02:07
Originally posted by POTA POTA wrote:

I've been lurking for like six years; I should have voting rights. Angry


Another 37 posts and you will be able to do it Smile


Posted By: petrica
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 02:08
Close to the edge intro mind blowing.


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 03:19
Tarkus by the thickness of a hair.

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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 05:08
Close to the edge!

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 05:15
Close To The Edge has a beginning of chaos that comes together with Jon's vocals into the theme. Wonderful.
Tarkus has the slow buildup, a choral sound, that erupts into life.

Tarkus gets my vote.

After voting it occurs to me. Do you mean the intro or the whole first section? 


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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 05:30
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Tarkus by the thickness of a hair.
 
Oh so close.


Posted By: ThinLizzy
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 06:04
The intro from Close To The Edge is unique.

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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 07:54
They are both great songs, but CTTE is one of my favorites. As mentioned, the intro is so unique and one of the best 5 minutes in prog.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 08:39
Overall I prefer CTTE, but in terms of the intro, Tarkus gets the vote. It encapsulates all that was good about ELP at the time.

The CTTE intro sounds pretty messy to me.

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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 11:23

Both are fantastic and among the best.

Most of the amazingness of CTTE comes in the second half though, while Eruption is an excellently apt introduction to our armadillc friend. 



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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 12:02
CttE for me. It sets the up the whole tone of the song.




Posted By: mohaveman
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 13:13
Yes always beats ELP for me


Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 13:39
ELP always beats Yes for me. Tongue


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 14:33
Just the intro, so the intro of Eruption vs. Solid Time Of Change which is an intro from beginning to end: Solid Time Of Change.
 
Solid Time Of Change vs. Eruption as a whole though: the latter. I think Eruption becomes really brilliant from the moment the tempo goes down, just before Stones Of Years.


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 16:52
i just love both, i won't voteConfused


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 16:55
Originally posted by Jake Kobrin Jake Kobrin wrote:

As much I love the rest of the song and album, I actually thought that the intro to CttE was a bit misconstrued. The drums are great, but everything just doesn't mesh. It's actually better live, from what I've heard, with more energy and such.


I've never heard a live version that beats the studio, but that's just my opinion.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 17:15
Very interesting question.
 
Both are perfect intros for their respective peices of music. Tarkus is about violence and brutality. The birth of some indestructable part organic part machine like creature. Emerson nailed it.
 
But I also love the intro to Close To The Edge. Quite unique as someone else said and draws you in. Seems to almost start off a bit over the place with everyone playing against each other.I love it but then the whole album is a massive achievement.
 
Anyway I voted Tarkus because it turned me onto prog and away from dullness!


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 20:48
Close To The Edge.

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 21:14
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


Close To The Edge has a beginning of chaos that comes together with Jon's vocals into the theme. Wonderful.
Tarkus has the slow buildup, a choral sound, that erupts into life.
Tarkus gets my vote.
After voting it occurs to me. Do you mean the intro or the whole first section? 



As a matter of fact, I thought of the Intros and the whole first section as the same thing. I meant the whole instrumental beginning of each song (before the vocals kick in, of course), which are named "The Solid Time of Change" and "Eruption" on each song. I hope this makes it clearer...


Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: January 28 2011 at 09:53
Eruption

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 28 2011 at 10:34
Originally posted by ThinLizzy ThinLizzy wrote:

The intro from Close To The Edge is unique.
 
The intro to every song is unique, otherwise it's plagiarism.


Posted By: hobocamp
Date Posted: January 28 2011 at 12:08
Wow so close. I thought Yes would be mopping up.


Posted By: ThinLizzy
Date Posted: January 28 2011 at 12:11
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by ThinLizzy ThinLizzy wrote:

The intro from Close To The Edge is unique.
 
The intro to every song is unique, otherwise it's plagiarism.


I mean is something really unusual.


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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: January 28 2011 at 12:32
Couldn't have picked two more incredible pieces to compare.  I voted for Tarkus, because I like singing along with the syncopated rhythms on that one more.

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