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Topic: The Gong Guitarists
Posted By: cannon
Subject: The Gong Guitarists
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 00:09
Two brilliant guitarists who at one time played in Gong, Steve Hillage and Allan Holdsworth. Both great musicians and very innovative on many different levels. Your favourite of the two?
 
 



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Posted By: daslaf
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 00:24
I know both, but I haven't listen to Gong yet, so I won't vote

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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 00:36
Steve Hillage is one of my favorite guitarists that played with anyone.  Though I do very much like Holdsworth and listen to many of his projects.

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 01:07
Steve is amazing, Holdsworth less so to me (though still awesome).  

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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 01:07
Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

Steve Hillage is one of my favorite guitarists that played with anyone.  Though I do very much like Holdsworth and listen to many of his projects.


Same here.


Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 01:52
It´s simple!Wink
 


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Posted By: Philius Maximus
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 04:10
Allan Holdsworth is technically a far better guitarist, but I find some of his stuff lacking in feel, whereas Steve's playing is beautiful and emotional - So Steve every time for me!


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 04:39
can't realy vote , both are great but different, for intance i love equaly gazeuse and you, thought i think steve played his best through his solo works from fish to green


Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 05:02
Steve Hillage isn't bad (I really like FISH RISING) but he can't hold a candle to Holdsworth, who is completely sui generis. Apart from Gong, he has triumphed with Soft Machine, Bruford, U.K. and on numerous solo albums. It's true that Hillage, at his best, had passion, and a few original ideas, but if you compare his overall achievement with Holdsworth's there's simply no comparison.

N.B. If you wanted to restrict your poll to their achievement with Gong alone, I still prefer Holdsworth, since GAZEUSE features by far the most musicianly, melodious and mellifluous guitar-playing to be found on any Gong album. Banana nirvana manana!


Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 06:36
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Steve Hillage isn't bad (I really like FISH RISING) but he can't hold a candle to Holdsworth, who is completely sui generis. Apart from Gong, he has triumphed with Soft Machine, Bruford, U.K. and on numerous solo albums. It's true that Hillage, at his best, had passion, and a few original ideas, but if you compare his overall achievement with Holdsworth's there's simply no comparison.

N.B. If you wanted to restrict your poll to their achievement with Gong alone, I still prefer Holdsworth, since GAZEUSE features by far the most musicianly, melodious and mellifluous guitar-playing to be found on any Gong album. Banana nirvana manana!

My sentiments exactly.


Posted By: kawkaw123
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 07:10
STEVE


Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 08:14
With Gong: Hillage
Outside Gong: Holdsworth


Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 10:07
Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Steve Hillage isn't bad (I really like FISH RISING) but he can't hold a candle to Holdsworth, who is completely sui generis. Apart from Gong, he has triumphed with Soft Machine, Bruford, U.K. and on numerous solo albums. It's true that Hillage, at his best, had passion, and a few original ideas, but if you compare his overall achievement with Holdsworth's there's simply no comparison.

N.B. If you wanted to restrict your poll to their achievement with Gong alone, I still prefer Holdsworth, since GAZEUSE features by far the most musicianly, melodious and mellifluous guitar-playing to be found on any Gong album. Banana nirvana manana!

My sentiments exactly.
 
Me too.Cool


Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 10:16
Steve Hillage was more suitable with Gong than Holdsworth.

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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 10:41
Originally posted by Prog Geo Prog Geo wrote:

Steve Hillage was more suitable with Gong than Holdsworth.


Daevid Allen's Gong was collapsing all around him, almost as soon as Hillage joined the band!


Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 10:49
Of course.For me the best works of Gong is with Hillage-Allen.

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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 11:30
Wait! Where is appearing Holdsworth as a guitarist in Gong? I didn´t find him anywhere.Confused

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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 13:40
He's on the albums Gazeuse and Expresso II


Posted By: Jazzywoman
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 17:13
Hillage all the way!  Trippy works by both of them though...

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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 17:25
alan plays a few tracks on the album time is the keyWink


Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 22:30
Hillage by personal preference, although Holdsworth is more of an icon.


Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: February 10 2011 at 01:05
Hillage


Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: February 10 2011 at 14:10
Stevie Hillside of course. 

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Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: February 11 2011 at 14:14
Hillage


Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: February 11 2011 at 14:46
Steve Hillside-Village for me; as others have said, Holdsworth is far better technically but leaves me a bit cold.
 
Incidentally, Daevid Allen is a pretty fine psychedelic axeman in his own right - not as accomplished as either of the other two but not to be overlooked or under rated. 


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: February 11 2011 at 15:00
As much as I love Gazeuse!, for Gong Steve was the man.  I just prefer Gong with Daevid Allen there.


Posted By: The Wrinkler
Date Posted: February 11 2011 at 20:30
I can't fairly vote, because I listen to the Radio Gnome Trilogies, but I do enjoy Steve Hillage's guitar work, and I also loved him in Khan, and Fish Rising.


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 19:02
Hi,
 
Sorry Steffi Sharpsprings ... you are not appreciated a whole lot ... and I happen to like your work too!


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Posted By: The Mystical
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 00:32
Alan Holdsworth is a genius, but Steve Hillage is very creative and innovative. Star


Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 01:44
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
Sorry Steffi Sharpsprings ... you are not appreciated a whole lot ... and I happen to like your work too!


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 02:07
Holdy

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Posted By: spknoevl
Date Posted: May 23 2012 at 07:39

I almost didn't vote.  I've always loved Hillage's solo work, but Holdsworth is probably one of the top ten most innovative guitarists of all time, and technically as players, there's no contest.



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Posted By: wellsfargo
Date Posted: May 23 2012 at 09:54

Hillage was perfect for Daevid Allen's Gong and Holdsworth was perfect for Perre Morelens Gong being more fusion based. It's a tie for me.



Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: May 23 2012 at 15:42
Holdsworth, hands down. Bowdown Yes, Hillage was perfect for Gong, but overall, Allan's style appeals to me more. He definitely knew his way around the fretboard!

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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: May 23 2012 at 20:52
Steve Hillfish but Allan was incredible with Soft Machine and JL Ponty

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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: May 24 2012 at 02:23
I also prefer Hillage since i saw him live about 2 years ago with Daevid Allen, he totally blew my mind when i wasn't expecting it at all.



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