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Topic: Mr. Bungle Albums
Posted By: irrelevant
Subject: Mr. Bungle Albums
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 00:59
Try not to carry stress in the jaw while deciding.  

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 01:08
Disco Volante by miles.
 
The others are good no doubt, but DV is a masterpiece.


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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 01:12
The debut, one of my most listened to albums ever. I just happened to be listening to it when I saw this poll. Cool

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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 02:10
  I really don't understand the general love for DV, but I find the pastiche thing pretty lame. I like Mike Patton, but I think they're so famous mostly because they were on a major label so they were many people's first exposure to OMG AVANT music (even though they're really not that avant most of the time). So my vote is for California because at least the melodies feel strong enough to stand on



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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 02:43
I got the first album from a friend when it came out and we were both ecstatic about it. Really fun album. 
I got the second album when I was in my army service and it suited very well the demented state of mind I was in and served well to contrast the depressive and oppressive martial surroundings. I used to play both albums when I could at the little time there was for sleep just to be able to regain contact with normality. Yes, Disco Volante was at that time a semblance of normality for me; that tells you something about the state of mind I was in. 
I was in my last year of army service when I got the third album and also fell for it quickly with the lovely Pink Cigarette and the insane Ars Moriendi. 
If I had to choose, I'd go with the debut. 


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Posted By: Synchestra
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 03:58
In the minority, apprently, but I'm voting for California. It just feels like they took their ideas and made a real album with it, instead of just messing around with some fun stuff (which is good and all, but their other albums never felt as cohesive or focused IMO) and it still manages to be full of all that crazy stuff Patton loves to do

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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 04:09
All three are great but I like DV the most. If you like that album you will most likely enjoy Trey's band Secret Chiefs 3 as well.


Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 04:18
IMO the self titled is one of the best albums by any artist ever

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Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 20:28
I hate the self-titled debut.

Disco Volante was a big improvement.

California is in my top ten faves of all time.

Shame they didn't continue. With that track record the next album would've been the greatest musical creation in the whole universe.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 20:47
If it weren't for California I wouldn't have tried the other two.  As it stands I am happy having all three.

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Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 20:59
Has anyone heard their pre-Warner Bros albums, the rare and hard to find cassettes?

The Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny (1986)
Bowel of Chiley (1987)
Goddammit I Love America! (1988)
OU818 (1989)


Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 21:07
All the albums are pretty great. I guess I prefer Disco Volante. 

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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: February 22 2011 at 17:42
I prefer California, in my opinion represent the best vocal perfomance of Mike in Mr Bungle.

All the discography are excellent


Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: February 22 2011 at 18:47
I love the sh*t out of the debut.



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Posted By: mourningknight
Date Posted: February 22 2011 at 18:53

The debut is by far their best album, no question. In my opinion, Disco Volante was a major disappointment and horrible follow-up. California has a  few decent tracks, but, not much to write home about. As I see it, the debut is the only Mr. Bungle album.



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Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: February 22 2011 at 23:03
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

  I really don't understand the general love for DV, but I find the pastiche thing pretty lame. I like Mike Patton, but I think they're so famous mostly because they were on a major label so they were many people's first exposure to OMG AVANT music (even though they're really not that avant most of the time). So my vote is for California because at least the melodies feel strong enough to stand on


Seriously, dude? Don't be That Guy. 


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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: February 22 2011 at 23:14
Self-titled.

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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 00:16
Originally posted by 40footwolf 40footwolf wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

  I really don't understand the general love for DV, but I find the pastiche thing pretty lame. I like Mike Patton, but I think they're so famous mostly because they were on a major label so they were many people's first exposure to OMG AVANT music (even though they're really not that avant most of the time). So my vote is for California because at least the melodies feel strong enough to stand on
 

Seriously, dude? Don't be That Guy. 

It's true. I'm not sure what your argument is. 

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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 01:11
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by 40footwolf 40footwolf wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

  I really don't understand the general love for DV, but I find the pastiche thing pretty lame. I like Mike Patton, but I think they're so famous mostly because they were on a major label so they were many people's first exposure to OMG AVANT music (even though they're really not that avant most of the time). So my vote is for California because at least the melodies feel strong enough to stand on
 

Seriously, dude? Don't be That Guy. 

It's true. I'm not sure what your argument is. 

DV is widely considered to have traces of avant-garde. And the fact that a major label released it is avant in itself. LOL 


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Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 01:21
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by 40footwolf 40footwolf wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

  I really don't understand the general love for DV, but I find the pastiche thing pretty lame. I like Mike Patton, but I think they're so famous mostly because they were on a major label so they were many people's first exposure to OMG AVANT music (even though they're really not that avant most of the time). So my vote is for California because at least the melodies feel strong enough to stand on
 

Seriously, dude? Don't be That Guy. 

It's true. I'm not sure what your argument is. 

My argument is that saying a band that bounces from swing jazz to death metal to Klezmer within the span of two or three minutes isn't "that avant" is ludicrous, nevermind the fact that John Zorn was basically a member of the band for their first album(I know he just produced it, but his hand is literally EVERYWHERE on that album). And yeah, I listen to Merzbow and Sunn O))) and Wolf Eyes and Nurse With Wound so I'm not an "OMG AVANT" person, as you've so labeled Mr. Bungle's fans. I'm calling them avant-garde because just, straight up, that's what they are. I'm wondering what you think is NOT avant about them. 


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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 06:11
People forget that the only reason they got a major record deal was because when Patton joined Faith No More, it was under one condition: that his band gets a record deal.


Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 10:13
Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

People forget that the only reason they got a major record deal was because when Patton joined Faith No More, it was under one condition: that his band gets a record deal.

I figured as such, but still.... I wonder what the label was expecting. LOL 


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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 10:17
Wow! California currently has 13 votes and DV only has 9. 

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 10:42
Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Wow! California currently has 13 votes and DV only has 9. 
It's a bit weird as Cullifornia is my fav, but when I first took notice it seemed like Disco had the biggest following here.


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Posted By: JonteJH
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 12:04
Cant vote, all of them is masterpieces. 

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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 12:38
Originally posted by 40footwolf 40footwolf wrote:

My argument is that saying a band that bounces from swing jazz to death metal to Klezmer within the span of two or three minutes isn't "that avant" is ludicrous, nevermind the fact that John Zorn was basically a member of the band for their first album(I know he just produced it, but his hand is literally EVERYWHERE on that album). And yeah, I listen to Merzbow and Sunn O))) and Wolf Eyes and Nurse With Wound so I'm not an "OMG AVANT" person, as you've so labeled Mr. Bungle's fans. I'm calling them avant-garde because just, straight up, that's what they are. I'm wondering what you think is NOT avant about them. 
I view avant-garde music as, primarily, heavily dissonant/unmelodic/unstructuctured music. Therefore, genre bouncing is not avant-garde music. If each individual section is a perfect pastiche of a style, splicing them together with whiplash ADD doesn't make the whole piece more progressive than each genre section being a whole song an a whole album. If it makes you feel better, I feel the same way about Naked City's splicing, and I'm aware my annoyance with the whole concept is not widely shared. laplace is the only other person here (that I can remember) I've ever seen make a strong argument against it, but he hated music even more than I do so people didn't pay much attention to him. And not everything John Zorn does is avant-garde! Combining genres is progressive, but I consider that experimental music (which in my mind is a much broader term than avant-garde). I think the gap between our understanding of the words is probably the issue here.
 
What is not avant-garde about them is that each individual section is usually very melodic and structured. That doesn't mean you shouldn't like them, nor do I think every Mr. Bungle fan is inexperienced with avant-garde music, nor am I unimpressed by the fact that Mike Patton got it released on a major label (although Boredoms are on Warner Japan :P). My comment was primarily reflecting my annoyance that so many people refer to DV as http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=132115" rel="nofollow - the most experimental album of the '90s/all time etc. etc. Again, equal opportunity hater: I get similarly annoyed when many people talk about Trout Mask Replica.


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Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 12:58
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by 40footwolf 40footwolf wrote:

My argument is that saying a band that bounces from swing jazz to death metal to Klezmer within the span of two or three minutes isn't "that avant" is ludicrous, nevermind the fact that John Zorn was basically a member of the band for their first album(I know he just produced it, but his hand is literally EVERYWHERE on that album). And yeah, I listen to Merzbow and Sunn O))) and Wolf Eyes and Nurse With Wound so I'm not an "OMG AVANT" person, as you've so labeled Mr. Bungle's fans. I'm calling them avant-garde because just, straight up, that's what they are. I'm wondering what you think is NOT avant about them. 
I view avant-garde music as, primarily, heavily dissonant/unmelodic/unstructuctured music. Therefore, genre bouncing is not avant-garde music. If each individual section is a perfect pastiche of a style, splicing them together with whiplash ADD doesn't make the whole piece more progressive than each genre section being a whole song an a whole album. If it makes you feel better, I feel the same way about Naked City's splicing, and I'm aware my annoyance with the whole concept is not widely shared. laplace is the only other person here (that I can remember) I've ever seen make a strong argument against it, but he hated music even more than I do so people didn't pay much attention to him. And not everything John Zorn does is avant-garde! Combining genres is progressive, but I consider that experimental music (which in my mind is a much broader term than avant-garde). I think the gap between our understanding of the words is probably the issue here.
 
What is not avant-garde about them is that each individual section is usually very melodic and structured. That doesn't mean you shouldn't like them, nor do I think every Mr. Bungle fan is inexperienced with avant-garde music, nor am I unimpressed by the fact that Mike Patton got it released on a major label (although Boredoms are on Warner Japan :P). My comment was primarily reflecting my annoyance that so many people refer to DV as http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=132115" rel="nofollow - the most experimental album of the '90s/all time etc. etc. Again, equal opportunity hater: I get similarly annoyed when many people talk about Trout Mask Replica.

Ah, I get it. Your argument is essentially that weird=/=avant. I can respect that. 

I didn't mean to come off quite so angry earlier, sorry. 


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Posted By: Mr Greeen Genes
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 11:16
I slightly prefer DV over California... I don't like the debut too much though...


Posted By: TLM170
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 13:45
Mr bungle


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 21:08
 
Originally posted by 40footwolf 40footwolf wrote:

 Ah, I get it. Your argument is essentially that weird=/=avant. I can respect that. 

I didn't mean to come off quite so angry earlier, sorry. 

It's ok, it's just PA, we can always hug it out. 

Yeah, I have higher standards than most people, but I certainly wouldn't argue that Mr. Bungle is mostly indistinguishable from what you'd normally expect from Warner. Unlike some of the bands listed here. ;-)


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Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 20:22
I don't like these poll results... no runaway winner in this one


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 20:50
I dont know much about Mr Bungle but when I saw the clip to Quote Unquote it scared the living suitcase out of me and I have avoided them ever since.
 
Still my tastes have changed and I might listen to the debut as thats getitng alot of love round here 


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Posted By: spookytooth
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 22:12
I really like all of Mr. Bungle's albums, but Disco Volante is no doubt my favorite of their three.

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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: December 25 2011 at 06:01
Disco Volante and the debut are two of my favorite albums ever, though DV wins with a nose.
 
A masterpiece of madness on tape.
 
 


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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 06:23
Tough choice - I think I'll go with California because it's a pop masterpiece. And ditto to 'what might have been' re: a fourth album.


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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 14:28
I only did hear DV, but I should probably delve into it more.

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 16:48
I think Disco Volante is miles ahead of the other two and one of the most perfect albums of all time. I often cite it as my favorite album ever.

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 27 2011 at 06:21
California was a serious letdown for me.  Disco Volante's my favorite.  The self titled one was great for a while, but then it got a bit old, and it sounds pretty ridiculous to me today.

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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: February 29 2016 at 13:12
The 1st album!

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Posted By: Cookie13
Date Posted: March 13 2016 at 16:58
Favourite;
California.

The best;
Disco Volante.


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