Snowtorch!!! (Phideaux)
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Topic: Snowtorch!!! (Phideaux)
Posted By: let prog reign
Subject: Snowtorch!!! (Phideaux)
Date Posted: March 09 2011 at 17:57
Phideaux's new album is out! What do you think of it?
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: March 10 2011 at 00:23
Not out for 11 more days ... if I'm lucky, I"ll be able to order a copy as soon as it's released.
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Posted By: m2thek
Date Posted: March 10 2011 at 00:32
I'm looking forward to it
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: March 10 2011 at 06:00
Is this the final part of the trilogy, then?
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: March 10 2011 at 06:37
I must get my hands on this.
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Posted By: Rasvamakkara
Date Posted: March 10 2011 at 10:31
I just noticed that the Snowtorch (part one) has been uploaded on the progarchives player. This sounds very good. I have very high expectations for this album, but I'm pretty sure I won't be dissappointed. I'll order the album immediately once it hits the stores.
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: March 10 2011 at 10:55
3-21-11 release, no?
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Posted By: let prog reign
Date Posted: March 10 2011 at 19:56
TheGazzardian wrote:
Not out for 11 more days ... if I'm lucky, I"ll be able to order a copy as soon as it's released. | Haha oops
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: March 10 2011 at 20:22
Kotro wrote:
Is this the final part of the trilogy, then? |
I think this is a whole other beast actually, originally part of the Number Seven sequel that was expanded into an album length track. That third part has yet to come.
I'm looking forward to it, nonetheless, Windhawk's review makes me hungry! 
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 10 2011 at 21:10
The unmastered version which he sent by email to various people as well as posted on Yahoo, sounds pretty good and I can't wait to get the actual cd.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 11 2011 at 03:21
The sample on steam...sample? A whole 20 minutes sounds pretty good to me.
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 12 2011 at 11:52
Thanks, Snow Dog for putting that up for me. I'm glad people are getting a chance to hear the album. I sent links to listeners that I have corresponded with in the past as well as to some radio station friends in my facebook. I also put the links into my phideaux yahoo group so they could listen. To be perfectly honest, I've offered the links to anyone who contacted me to ask for copies (probably not the best business model, but I really wanted folks to hear the album - as we dither with the most annoying aspects of mastering). So, contrary to urban legend, nobody in particular was chosen to get the album - excepting that some were chosen, but all are eligible.
So, if anyone wants a link to the advance copy, let me know. Of course, half the album is up on here and there are podcasts that played the full album, so it's out there.
Anyway, we are obviously happy for people to talk about the album and we are excited to release it and we offer it to anyone who would like a listen. just message me here if you like or on facebook.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 13 2011 at 14:39
Damn fine stuff
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Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: March 13 2011 at 16:33
Sounding like a Day 1 order already! The man's a genius 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 18 2011 at 05:34
Thanks for the streaming. Can't afford to buy new music at the moment so it's much appreciated.
Oh wow. I just activated the streaming clip and it went on to other artists. I'm at Tranquility now.
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Posted By: m2thek
Date Posted: March 18 2011 at 11:00
Will Snowtorch be on Amazon day one?
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Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 12:40
m2thek wrote:
Will Snowtorch be on Amazon day one? |
It appears not. 
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Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 13:25
Yeah, it's not on eBay, either.
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 14:55
Hello friends of Phideaux (and mine enemies too!)
Thanks for your comments and interest in our new project.
I wanted to let folks know that we missed the deadline for physical copies of our new album, however the final version is now available on bandcamp.com for 10 dollars.
If you wanted a physical copy and can't wait to buy the album immediately, purchase it on bandcamp and send me an email with your address and I'll send you the CD as soon as I have it back from printers. I'll likely ask for some postage donation if you're far away (but just as likely not because I'll be so touched by your loyalty to even purchase the album to begin with!
cheers and sorry for the delay. However, we wanted to ensure that your listening experience would be safe and productive.
Let me know what you think of the album.
Phideaux Xavier I
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Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 16:22
Great news Phideaux! Just bought the album on Bandcamp and sent you a PM with my info; can't wait to hear it! 
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 16:53
Yes indeed Snowtorch will be one of the CDs of the year from all reports. You are gaining quite a fan base right here Phideaux! I was deeply moved and stunned by the masterpiece Doomsday Afternoon. If its anything like that it will be a winner in my eyes. I just loved the diversity and quality of DD and I believe from what I have heard Snowtorch will live up to that standard. When great effort is put in, a deep comitment tothe music, and above all passion into a project it really shines through and it is appreciated by all those who listen. All the best on this new release, I hope to review it soon.
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 17:16
Atomic - A) thank you B) is your avatar one of the characters from UFO tv series? I LOVE that photo (on MANY levels) Also, loving the Kraftwerk anime!
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 17:57
http://phideaux.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - A link to the bandcamp for those who don't have it
Great news Phideaux  . Is the vinyl version going to be available at the same time as the CD version?
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 18:05
I think the vinyl will take two extra weeks. Sadly! I am excited for the vinly release though as this will be our first LP!!! It will transport me back to my youth with gatefold covers and artwork to lose myself in... I can't wait to get the Doomsday and Number Seven LP versions prepared!
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 18:09
That's not too bad at all, I'm excited for it too, even though I was born right before CDs took over. And Number Seven and Doomsday on vinyl - wow - that's also awesome news!!! 
Congrats on your guys' first LP!
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Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 19:28
So Snowtorch on CD will be available, just delayed? I just discovered Phideaux's music and am very interested in this album after reading nothing but stellar reviews on it.
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 20:01
MillsLayne wrote:
So Snowtorch on CD will be available, just delayed?
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Correct, but so we would keep our "date" with destiny and still get out album out at the spring equinox (which was our agreement with the spirits of the forest) we put it up on bandcamp for immediate download...
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Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 20:51
Okay, cool. Also, is Doomsday Afternoon a limited release or something, because I can't seem to find it on CD anywhere! I'm one of those that has to have a physical copy of everything I like.
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 21:01
we have sold out that album and are in the process of remastering it for a new release. We have also decided to convert our albums into cardboard sleeves like you would get with those collectible Mini LP edition CDs from Japan. So, once we sell out a title, we will upgrade it. Doom is next in line.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 21:03
Phideaux wrote:
we have sold out that album and are in the process of remastering it for a new release. We have also decided to convert our albums into cardboard sleeves like you would get with those collectible Mini LP edition CDs from Japan. So, once we sell out a title, we will upgrade it. Doom is next in line.
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Is there going to be any kind of exchange program? 
And if I have your attention, do you have any spare copies of the Number Seven CD booklet? Mine was ruined in the flood 9/21/09.
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 21:07
not for the cover, but you'll be able to get an upgraded copy of the sound via free download of .wav or flac files. We definitely are doing this to improve the sound (and visual). So, we will want folks who have already bought the album to be able to hear the new editions. Much like we did with Number Seven where we offered folks either a trade of one disc for a new one, or a download. Of course, that remastering was done so close to the initial release that it would have been incorrect to expect folks to buy the album a second time.
Doom has been out of print for a few months now. At any rate, we are upfront about these sonic upgrades and we always offer our listeners the option to burn a new copy of the sound. Of course, when we upgrade the sound it doesn't mean a recall. :-)
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 08:01
Phideaux wrote:
Atomic - A) thank you B) is your avatar one of the characters from UFO tv series? I LOVE that photo (on MANY levels) Also, loving the Kraftwerk anime! |
Avatar is Gabrielle Drake from UFO - gorgeous
and thanks...
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Posted By: Marlon
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 08:46
Phideaux wrote:
not for the cover, but you'll be able to get an upgraded copy of the sound via free download of .wav or flac files. We definitely are doing this to improve the sound (and visual). So, we will want folks who have already bought the album to be able to hear the new editions. Much like we did with Number Seven where we offered folks either a trade of one disc for a new one, or a download. Of course, that remastering was done so close to the initial release that it would have been incorrect to expect folks to buy the album a second time.
Doom has been out of print for a few months now. At any rate, we are upfront about these sonic upgrades and we always offer our listeners the option to burn a new copy of the sound. Of course, when we upgrade the sound it doesn't mean a recall. :-)
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I have the original edition of Number 7, so where can I download the upgraded copy?
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 08:49
Just listened once on Bandcamp and must say I'm impressed. I was disappointed with the previous albums (Doomsday included) but this has a very immediate appeal to the prog-person in me. Must listen to Doomsday again...
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 08:55
If Snowtorch is half as good as Number Seven, Doomsday Afternoon or for that matter The Great Leap, I'll be a happy bunny .
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Posted By: cacha71
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 11:03
Thanks - I just bought Snowtorch (as I have all previous albums) and am eagerly waiting for the download to finish
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 11:40
Bonnek, I'm not sure you will necessarily like this one. It has a lot in common with Number Seven and Doomsday. However, if you liked what you heard on here, then it's pretty much of that ilk.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 12:13
Great album indeed, Phideaux. 
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Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 17:59
I've listened to Snowtorch 4 times now and I think it's safe to say you've done it again Phideaux. Absolutely beautiful. 
You can rest assured that I will continue to buy everything you put out. 
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: March 25 2011 at 06:05
A few more reviews and the album will be No1 PA Prog album of all time. Made it to position No7 already.
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 25 2011 at 08:49
Don't worry Bonnek, it's following the natural curve whereby the friends and supporters hear it first. It will very quickly take its natural place downwind...
According to the ranking it's better than "In The Court Of The Crimson King". Fancy that!!!!
LOL. Once the general public hear it, they will weigh in. Of course I did offer the full version for free to anyone who wanted it, so anyone has been able to hear it for the past fortnight.
Cheers and thanks for the update.
Oh, and thanks for the kind remarks and critiques from those who have heard it.
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Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: March 25 2011 at 09:09
Phideaux wrote:
MillsLayne wrote:
So Snowtorch on CD will be available, just delayed? |
Correct, but so we would keep our "date" with destiny and still get out album out at the spring equinox (which was our agreement with the spirits of the forest) we put it up on bandcamp for immediate download...
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Hi Phideaux, any chance Snowtorch will be available on itunes in the near future. Here in Namibia this is often the only way to get good music - at least in a legal way, appart from ordering the CD which usually gets lost by the Namibain postal service. Can't wait for Snowtorch!
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 25 2011 at 09:12
^ You can already buy the digital version of the album on http://phideaux.bandcamp.com/album/snowtorch" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp for 10 bucks.
Support Bandcamp, they're the best! 
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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: March 25 2011 at 09:18
after morning coffee and cigarette i felt so fine i thought this will be a good day!
today Phideaux opened a total new door to me. listened some songs from Snowtorch (after reading praised reviews from PA) and now i'm totally hooked. listened doomsday few hours ago and what an album that also is!
nothing has moved me musically this much for ages!
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: March 25 2011 at 10:05
Phideaux wrote:
Don't worry Bonnek, it's following the natural curve whereby the friends and supporters hear it first. It will very quickly take its natural place downwind...
According to the ranking it's better than "In The Court Of The Crimson King". Fancy that!!!!
LOL. Once the general public hear it, they will weigh in. Of course I did offer the full version for free to anyone who wanted it, so anyone has been able to hear it for the past fortnight.
Cheers and thanks for the update.
Oh, and thanks for the kind remarks and critiques from those who have heard it.
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Oh I'm not worrying at all, I was merely stating a surprising fact.  It's a natural curve indeed, happens a lot, but never in such grandiose fashion. And at least it's for an album that's deserving it this time, though maybe not quite up there with ITCOTCK and Dark Side of The Moon 
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Posted By: omardiyejon
Date Posted: March 25 2011 at 17:27
I have bought it and listened to it maybe more than 15 times or something like that. I think part 1 is the best of the Phideaux so far. It has strong resemblances to VDGG in a perfect way. Heavy piano and dynamic drums; that is what I am talking about. And the singings are great as they always are. A great album in many ways.
But about the reviews and ratings I do not feel comfortable at all. Giving it a weird 1 star review just to make it fall downwards in the 'top albums of all time' list is childish. The opposite is the same, why would I give a 5 star review just to make it on the top  .
I hope people will start to consider the value of this album in terms of progressive rock itself. Comparing it with ITCOTCK or something else is not healthy at all. Our feelings about the album are sadly distracted by an artificial ranking.
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 25 2011 at 20:42
Personally, Omardiyejon, I wish it wasn't "rated" as such. I like the reviews, but not so much the ratings only. It's also weird to have it compared alongside Red and Foxtrot and Thick As A Brick. I can easily understand people "voting" it down from that perch. I certainly don't think it's better than any of the albums in the top group (well maybe one or two, but they are all definitely post 1989!)
At any rate, I'm thrilled that folks are listening and enjoying it. I totally expect that some people will hate it for its "pretensions" and sunny melodic song structuring. I hadn't thought that it was "depeche mode" made proggy, but that is actually a pretty good comparison. I remember hearing Depeche Mode music for the masses and thinking it was pop music derived from Progressive Rock. So, it is totally possible that my writing takes the simple song structures and tarts them up.
But the really fun thing is that I can get together with my friends and teach them some song/music ideas, go into a studio, record it, tart it up with all sorts of weird sounds and "orchestrations", have the words be some strange allegorical "dark night of the soul" for all the history of humanity and call it Snowtorch (a somewhat blatant opposite of the blowjob that we are left with once we take away the title from Blowtorch Snowjob)!
What a hoot!!! So, after that it's all good riches. Rock on my figureheads friends.
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: March 26 2011 at 06:28
I did not know your music but was curious for quite some time by the excellent reputation. I have just been listening to Snowtorch Pt 1 in the stream here and it's indeed great stuff, gonna order some CD for sure.
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: March 26 2011 at 07:47
Listening to it now again. I really love those lyrics, so important to me always.
Part of my review of the first track...
The lyrics are powerful and moving on Part One, with vocals interjecting over the music immediately; "star of light, see what you gave cheated away the core, dark night edge of a blade, as we tap the grave of wax figurines, ice melts upsets the sea, submit follow me, walk with me now in the sunlight, daylight down with the night, invincible light are you back with us now, source of all reason, I come alive finally I cry and it's me I have arrived...." This could be about a protagonist who is searching for an answer to the chaos in life, the despair that he feels is due to the disappointments that have plagued him but around the corner is the light at the end of the darkness, things will get better. It is open to interpretation.
Then the time sig changes with the strong synth melody is excellent ... nice keyboard swells too. I really love this first track. The lyrics continue to disperse mystical imagery and enchanting words weave a spell of compelling words; "Are you dusty, my figurehead friends, what’s it feel like to come to the end..." The protagonist is questioning his existence, people are like wax figures to him, no soul and no emotion, the disillusion of life's tragedies has emptied the man of emotion and filled him with regret.
The flute section feels happier but there is an ominous lead guitar threatening to dominate and swallow the peaceful feelings. The flute dances merrily along with cloudbursts of drums and chiming synths. A minimalist piano brings the mood down till the female vocals come in with enchanting lyrics "I need you to know you will die." The male answers "I know what you need" but the lady sings that she promises she will "purge wll the words left inside". The mood becomes intense but then the tension is released with the lonely piano and bright synths. Both male and female vocals harmonise that they are entwined. The song changes feel then with a very pronounced piano forte passage. It is joined by ambient passages of synths and a tirade of fast tempo hi hat cymbals and low buzzing synths. The piano section is reminiscent of classic Emerson, and a delightful keyboard break to enhance the mood.
When the violins and woodwind section blazes away the song has completely become a majestic work of art. The lengthy instrumental is incredibly progressive and there is even an indelible saxophone that blasts out benign notes.
The opening track is ineffaceable masterful prog at its best, multi instrumental and very provocative, moving in textural shades of many moods and making an impact on the listener due to the virtuoso playing and reflective lyrics.
OK I am going back to the album now.
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 26 2011 at 11:36
Atomic, I'm so glad to hear someone discussing the lyrics. The only thing I have been getting lately about my lyrics is that they are just nonsense for us to sing like the lyrics of Yes! :-) I will admit they are not the sort of lyrics like "Johnny stepped into the bar, the Lights were too bright. They brought out the heat that was burning his life. He went to his drink, well what can he do? When there's nothing inside you can fill it with booze!"
That was of course the first draft of the song...
Anyway, thanks for listening.
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: March 26 2011 at 11:44
Truthfully I am surprised by the comments on the lyrics. It is clear to me that they have a more direct meaning than anything from Yes' heyday ... although the pieces I've put together have lead to a different interpretation than what ACR found. For me it speaks more about a deception being revealed, or a truth being discovered ... but I haven't put it all together yet and that interpretation could change once I've had time to think about it more.
Regardless, this album is awesome, I love it all so far, even Part 2. I love the instrumental section and laughed the first time I saw that you guys called it Blowtorch Snowjob. I'm definitely looking forward to when I have a copy I can play on my speakers and really turn on up the volume. I'm holding back my review until then.
Although so far it definitely sits at 4 stars. I don't quite think it's a 5 star album (I'm very stingy with 5 star reviews) but it's pretty dang close and could grow by then. I'd say this album is better than Number Seven, almost as good as Doomsday.
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Posted By: silcir
Date Posted: March 26 2011 at 11:50
The Part I of Snowtorch is really something. I'm not a heavy follower of Phideaux's work but i think i might become one. I truly like that first 20min of music. Amazed by that.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 26 2011 at 14:50
Phideaux wrote:
Personally, Omardiyejon, I wish it wasn't "rated" as such. I like the reviews, but not so much the ratings only. It's also weird to have it compared alongside Red and Foxtrot and Thick As A Brick. I can easily understand people "voting" it down from that perch. I certainly don't think it's better than any of the albums in the top group (well maybe one or two, but they are all definitely post 1989!)
At any rate, I'm thrilled that folks are listening and enjoying it. I totally expect that some people will hate it for its "pretensions" and sunny melodic song structuring. I hadn't thought that it was "depeche mode" made proggy, but that is actually a pretty good comparison. I remember hearing Depeche Mode music for the masses and thinking it was pop music derived from Progressive Rock. So, it is totally possible that my writing takes the simple song structures and tarts them up.
But the really fun thing is that I can get together with my friends and teach them some song/music ideas, go into a studio, record it, tart it up with all sorts of weird sounds and "orchestrations", have the words be some strange allegorical "dark night of the soul" for all the history of humanity and call it Snowtorch (a somewhat blatant opposite of the blowjob that we are left with once we take away the title from Blowtorch Snowjob)!
What a hoot!!! So, after that it's all good riches. Rock on my figureheads friends.
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I remember reading that review suggesting the Depeche Mode similarity, and I honestly don´t hear it. There have been a lot of references to Jethro Tull, Van Der Graff, Punk Flute and the likes and I can see where one would get such impressions in listening to your music, but first and foremost I believe you have achieved something very difficult, in sounding completely like Phideaux - which sounds rather ridiculous, but I am never in any doubt to whom I´m listening to whenever one of your songs is playing, and that is rare. I think it´s the combination of the layered vocals - your songwriting and the way you play the piano. I don´t think I´ve heard anything quite similar. I´ve listened to the stream of Snowtorch a couple of times - and I must admit, that I think you´ve done it again. Sounds like a combination of 7 and Doom - without ever ripping any of them off.
P.S. I love the fact that some of the aspects of 7 - like Gift of the Flame and the whole feel of it - sort of develops on Snowtorch, well at least from what I´ve heard so far. Just beautiful stuff!
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 07:48
The above comments are gold. I love the way this album contains so many possible interpretations. Mine are in my review and, yes, the album is another masterpiece as far as I am concerned. Its more VDGG than their latest album even! i mean it seems to hark back to the golden era of prog 70s sound without sounding dated if that were possible and i cant et the melodies out of my head. Right now all I can think in my head is that section that goes "so tell me how to lose the regret..." etc etc. Another few listens and i will know the lyrics by heart. I would definitely see the band live if they came to Australia. OK. It may not happen but I will be getting the rest of the catalogue of Phideaux this year some time.
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 10:31
Yikes. This album has been out only for a few scant weeks, and is already in the top 25 (#24, to be precise) best prog albums here. That's quite the accomplishment!
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 11:09
andyman1125 wrote:
Yikes. This album has been out only for a few scant weeks, and is already in the top 25 (#24, to be precise) best prog albums here. That's quite the accomplishment! |
Hahaha, Andy. I think you will find the album gone from that list soon enough. I wish there was a "waiting period" before new albums are even eligible for that list. It takes several years for people to really digest an album before full appraisal of its merits can be known.
However, I do get very excited when I hear a new album that seems to really crystalize everything I love about music. I might think, this album is perfect. It's exactly what I want to hear, and the artist is really playing to all of their strengths -- 5 Stars!
However, if I was asked "Is that album better than Yes Relayer or Storia di un Minuto by PFM?" would I still say 5 stars? I don't know that I would. So, when the album appears on the rise, I think people recoil and say "wait a minute, this is just infatuation with something new" and they reappraise to "course correct" so that the order of the universe can be restored.
Of course, it's hard to know what people really think unless they write a review. And I do thank folks for their comments, etc. We, naturally, tried to make the album that we thought would support the musical ideas and explore the themes laid out. We obviously think it's in the higher "star" category -- but any new parent does think that. Why would we put it out if we thought it was just 2 stars?
Anyway, it's a lovely day, and early and I thank folks for the interest and discussion. Working as an artist in isolation can be lonely. The craftsman craves communication about their work. I think gigging musicians get that from the audience, whereas recording artists don't have the contact. So, to be perfectly honest, these boards are so fantastic and fun (most of the time!!! Wait a couple weeks and then all the people who were duped into buying Snowtorch due to all the great reviews will post their reviews!!! It might not be a pretty sight!)
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 11:16
Phideaux wrote:
andyman1125 wrote:
Yikes. This album has been out only for a few scant weeks, and is already in the top 25 (#24, to be precise) best prog albums here. That's quite the accomplishment! |
Hahaha, Andy. I think you will find the album gone from that list soon enough. I wish there was a "waiting period" before new albums are even eligible for that list. It takes several years for people to really digest an album before full appraisal of its merits can be known.
However, I do get very excited when I hear a new album that seems to really crystalize everything I love about music. I might think, this album is perfect. It's exactly what I want to hear, and the artist is really playing to all of their strengths -- 5 Stars!
However, if I was asked "Is that album better than Yes Relayer or Storia di un Minuto by PFM?" would I still say 5 stars? I don't know that I would. So, when the album appears on the rise, I think people recoil and say "wait a minute, this is just infatuation with something new" and they reappraise to "course correct" so that the order of the universe can be restored.
Of course, it's hard to know what people really think unless they write a review. And I do thank folks for their comments, etc. We, naturally, tried to make the album that we thought would support the musical ideas and explore the themes laid out. We obviously think it's in the higher "star" category -- but any new parent does think that. Why would we put it out if we thought it was just 2 stars?
Anyway, it's a lovely day, and early and I thank folks for the interest and discussion. Working as an artist in isolation can be lonely. The craftsman craves communication about their work. I think gigging musicians get that from the audience, whereas recording artists don't have the contact. So, to be perfectly honest, these boards are so fantastic and fun (most of the time!!! Wait a couple weeks and then all the people who were duped into buying Snowtorch due to all the great reviews will post their reviews!!! It might not be a pretty sight!)
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I certainly understand that that list is very much temporary, but it was 31 yesterday, and 6 spots in a day is rather impressive! And I've given the album a few listens- I doubt the rating will drop very far, even with nay-sayers.
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 11:19
I am not a reviewer. I know what I like though. Phideaux is to me consistently original. Thanks.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 11:21
Yea, after reading alot of the reviews for Snowtorch, i've decided to give it a listen.
And like everyone that posted before, it is quite enjoyable.
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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 12:17
After a few listenings: definitely 4 stars. But good music is like good wine: If it ages well, it might just become one of those rare 5 stars gems. Better keep it in the cellar for 10 or 20 years! 
I tried to print out the lyrics. That was a waste of ink — not because the lyrics are bad but because my printer gave me only something like 1/4 of the inner gatefold. I’d better send you a PM, Phideaux, so you can send me a copy (I live far away and will gladly pay the shipping — as long as you put in a cartidge with black ink!).
Anyway, thanx for making wonderful music and sharing it with us!
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 16:33
See, it's already down a few pegs! Of course that's because one of the reviewers who gave it 3 stars has revised that to 1 star (except he forgot to change the text of his review to reflect that). I'm glad he kept listening to it though. I do believe that the more you hear something the more it opens up -- or in his case closes down. I guess the more he listened to it the more irritating it sounded.
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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 17:00
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I say nothing is nothing
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 17:06
refugee wrote:

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As they say, you can't please all the people all the time!
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 17:10
Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 17:33
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Hahaha, I don't know about that. He's contributed several reviews and seems to have opinions about music. I can only assume he's listened to the album and concluded that it is not his cup of tea. And he obviously has some pretty good taste because he rates Godbluff at 5 stars (which is COMPLETELY TRUE, btw!!!).
I'm only sorry he didn't like the album and even liked it less the second time he heard it (or it might have been several times later).
It's interesting, though, because many people have said to me that our new album Snowtorch has a TINY quality like that era of Van der graaf Generator. I would think someone who liked Godbluff might enjoy Snort Hog. But, maybe that's the beef -- that he thinks we're trying to copy that Vdgg sound too much.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 17:37
I've been listening to this a lot in the last week. One thing I notice with the last three releases by Phideaux, is the addictive nature of these albums for me. I can't seem to get enough of it; one listen isn't enough and it warrants another and another... It was the same for Doomsday Afternoon and Number Seven and it's repeating itself with Snowtorch. This is music I just want to keep on listening to constantly. Another wonderful achievement (to my ears at least). I've already posted about the new album in my blog (pretty much just to spread the word of the original message by Phideaux about the album being on Bandcamp), but I'll do a proper post dedicated to it later on as well (like I do with other albums).
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Posted By: Lozlan
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 21:36
Had the album for three days and am having difficulty imagining life without it. I can honestly say that this is one of the most holistically satisfying modern prog releases I've ever experienced. I listen to lots and lots and LOTS of music and am generally liberal in listening to new releases; maybe once every other day until it sinks into my skin and soul. But I've finished Snowtorch and started it up again immediately...numerous times. I'm really moved, I'm really impressed, and I'm genuinely looking forward to delving into the rest of your discography. In short: Kudos in the extreme. I'll be featuring part uno as the closing number on the next episode of Radio Obscura.
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 00:34
Lozlan wrote:
I'll be featuring part uno as the closing number on the next episode of Radio Obscura.
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Damn, that's a lot of time you'll be surrendering to us!!! And we thank you! I'm so glad you have become possessed! To be honest, I really love the sort of albums that I need to immediately play again once they are over. We sort of did make it seem like one should do this with the subliminal 4th track which seems to suggest "The story begins again..."
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 00:47
I will have to hear Number 7 now. I wonder if its sandwiched between 2 masterpieces and therefore is a let down - it happens often you know
wheres the best place to hear it? the official web page?
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 01:07
I think you can hear the full thing on bandcamp. We have some free tracks for download online (and I can slip you a free .wav file of the full album because when we remastered it, we provided folks with a free lossless download).
From what I understand it is a bit of a let down from Doom and possibly might have been needed as the next stepping stone to Snort Hog. However, I really love the long song Waiting For The Axe (but it takes a long time to start). The keyboards are as manic and crazy as some of the stuff in the new album.
Probably the tracks in the middle have put people off. I realize now it's an album of transitions with maybe one or two actual songs. The emphasis was definitely on texture, sound, mood and flow. You sort of have to "get on the ride" and stay on for it to make sense. The last piece written and recorded for the album was Love Theme From Number Seven/Storia Senti which is probably the most like Snowtorch.
Let me know if you'd like links to the .wav download.
p.s. some people thought it was an improvement on Doom, but most did not.
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Posted By: sondresae
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 07:01
Snowtorch... What a masterpiece!
I love this album, and I personally think it's among the best albums I've ever heard! I love it so much that I even recommended it on my bandcamp, along with "Doomsday Afternoon". I'll write a review here on PA of it soon, just need to get done with some english assignments first...
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 10:06
Sondresae,
Thanks for the kind words. No worries to write a review, but I'm glad you like the album. Probably best to ensure you do your english assigments to the best!!! ;-)
Anyway, we appreciate the comment.
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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 11:52
Hi.
I like "Snowtorch". I listened to it 3 times in last 3 days and it progress in my mind after each of listenings. I think this album is the proggest Phideaux album. Snowtorch can categorize as Eclectic album (IMO) but I cant found the atmospher of "Doomsday Afternoon" and "Number 7" in it . I mean "Snowtorch" impress me by different way. In this time I like "Doomsday...." and "Number 7" more than "Snowtorch" but I dont know what happen after more listening. Thanks.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 12:46
I'm now on my second listen. It is exceptionally good, and, at the moment, most definitely bordering on the masterpiece status.
I will, however, hold fire on the review until a few more listens, because I do find that a rushed review is generally a bad review.
Somehow, though, I seriously doubt very much that my initial opinion will be changed that much.
Thanks for sending the link Phideaux - I really am most grateful  
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Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 05:11
Snowtorch. Another great album by Phideaux. I have ordered my copy at Cosmos Music (France). 
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Posted By: Rasvamakkara
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:50
After a week of intensive listening, I agree that Snowtorch is an excellent album. I'm happy to see the album gets a lot of attention and praise (100 ratings with an average of 4.50, whoa!). However, not to take anything away from the album, I don't think it's the masterpiece people are claiming it to be. It's definitely a solid 4-4.50 star album, but not the kind of a masterpiece Doomsday Afternoon is in my opinion. But, as I said, Snowtorch is indeed an excellent album and perhaps it will even grow on me with time.
Not to criticise, but I have one small gripe with the album and that is the beginning of part two. It's good music, but the way it fades out makes me feel like it doesn't contribute anything to the rest of the song. But if my only complain about the album is something like that, it tells something about the quality of the album.
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Posted By: Rasvamakkara
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 12:23
After another week of intensive listening I'm starting to think Snowtorch may actually be a masterpiece. I just can't seem to get enough of it. It's not absolutely perfect, but I thin it's at least a 4.50 star album rounded up to 5.
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 12:30
I'm going to go against the grain.
Snowtorch is good, a wonderful tribute to prog. But something that made Doomsday approach masterpiece level isn't here for me. I went back to listen to Doomsday again and immediately knew. I've listened to Snowtorch 10-12 times, and it still will almost certainly be on my year end list.
still very good.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 17:04
Anyone know where I can get a hard copy of this from, I've got high hopes for this album?
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 17:49
sleeper wrote:
Anyone know where I can get a hard copy of this from, I've got high hopes for this album?
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Phideaux mentioned they lost the deadline for pressing the CDs, so it may take a wile. However, you can listen to the whole thing on his website.
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 18:20
CCVP wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Anyone know where I can get a hard copy of this from, I've got high hopes for this album?
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Phideaux mentioned they lost the deadline for pressing the CDs, so it may take a wile. However, you can listen to the whole thing on his website.
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While meaning about a month or so
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Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 21:41
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
I will have to hear Number 7 now. I wonder if its sandwiched between 2 masterpieces and therefore is a let down - it happens often you know
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Imo Number 7 is every bit as good as Doomsday and Snowtorch. All masterpieces in my book; you definitely need to hear it if you liked the other two.
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