Animals vs Trespass
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Topic: Animals vs Trespass
Posted By: Steven Brodziak
Subject: Animals vs Trespass
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 04:07
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Trespass - Looking For Someone, White Mountain, Visions of Angels, Dusk, Stagnation, The Knife
Animals - Pigs on the Wing pt.1, Dogs, Pigs: 3 Different Ones, Sheep, Pigs on the Wing Pt. 2
Which is the better album?
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 04:44
(My choice is hidden above. )------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Steven Brodziak wrote:Posted By: friso
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 05:07
| Trespass for me, Animals has a mediocre second side. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 05:09
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Animals by a very long way. Accomplished, assured, angry. Trespass.....a band trying to find its way but not there yet.
I don't really understand the reasoning for this comparison. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 05:29
| For me it's Trespass |
Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 05:31
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Animals by far
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 05:35
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 06:31
| Animals for me. I like Trespass, but love Animals. |
Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 07:12
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Trespass!I haven't listened to Animals very well.But I think that after listening to it,my opinion will remain the same.
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Posted By: Ruby900
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 07:25
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I like both, but Trespass is just great. In fact it was a one point my fave Genesis album ------------- "I always say that it’s about breaking the rules. But the secret of breaking rules in a way that works is understanding what the rules are in the first place". Rick Wakeman |
Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 07:50
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I love Trespass but Animals is part of one of the best trio of albums ever released -------------  
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 09:13
| love both but i'll go with animals, strong album and what a blast on stage |
Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 11:42
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Trespass is mega 'meh', and Animals is great.... ------------- 
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 11:59
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Trespass ------------- 
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 12:01
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I like both, but Animals gets my vote.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 12:51
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Animals. Like Snow Dog said, Trespass is pretty good but nothing great. ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Anderson III
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 13:03
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Both are decent albums, but neither are even close to the best works by the respective bands. I think out of these two, Trespass is the better one. ------------- "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 13:10
| Animals. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 13:59
This. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 14:07
Pretty much. |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 14:09
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Trespass is a gem ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 14:38
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As much as I like Trespass, I like Animals more. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 14:45
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Trespass is a masterpiece, Animals is a good album. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 14:45
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Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 15:55
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My opinion = Genesis' weakest (post Gabriel not included) vs Pink Floyd's best.
No contest ! ------------- "There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about" MJK |
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 16:26
| Animals by a fair margin. |
Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 19:36
| As much as I like Trespass, its Animals |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 19:40
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Both are masterpieces, but indeed very, very different. Not only different in sound/style, but in maturity. Trespass shows Genesis as a recently born band, not perfect at all in many aspects, but that innocency makes this album what it is, a masterful set of folky inspired tunes with great though simple interludes and solos, plus top-notch vocals and lyrics by Peter. Animals shows Pink Floyd as an already matured band, compositions are very strong and so is the playing. Mind-blowing solos and moods, daring atmposphere and lyrics, all in all making a very dark though "excellently" executed album with some of the band's greatest moments (Dogs). No vote.
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: March 21 2011 at 22:36
| Dogs is a masterpiece due to Dave Gilmour's contribution, but the rest of Animals is dominated too much by Roger Water in my opinion. Trespass is a masterpiece of 12 string acoustic guitar playing and is thus Anthony Phillip's masterpiece. |
Posted By: Steven Brodziak
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 02:53
This poll is comparing 5 albums of Genesis to 5 albums of Floyd.
It is argued that Genesis can be beat by so many bands (Trespass-Lamb). I'm throwing the ONLY band out there that I think has a chance. I still don't believe it will top over-all. ------------- Well, there it is. (Amadeus) |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 03:51
| Floyd's best album which is a total classic against a decent Genesis album (far from their worst but nowhere near their best). Easy vote. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 03:56
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I think it would be more relevant to compare Trespass with Atom Heart Mother (both 1970) and Nursery Cryme with Meddle (both 1971). (and Dark Side.. - Foxtrot, WYWH - Selling England... etc... ) Both PF albums here are in the PA top ten, so the poll result is no surprise. But to my tastes these are probably my two favorite Genesis-albums up against two of my least favorite Pink Floyds. ------------- 
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Posted By: Olias Bro
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 12:52
| Trespass has some classic moments and helps establish what would become the sound for Genesis over the next several albums, but lacks a little bit of polish which was perfected with Selling England by the Pound. Every minute of Animals holds your attention and I will give a slight nod to that album. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 13:04
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Animals. I don't particularly care for Trespass, and it's certainly overrated here on PA. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 13:11
I was thinking the same thing when it comes to comparing albums, and for 1969 Ummagumma vs. From Genesis to Revelation would be interesting. Pink Floyd's would trounce it, I think. I prefer Pink Floyd up to Meddle over later Floyd (Atom Heart Mother being my fave thanks to Ron Geesin's excellent work). I used to really love Animals, however. Trespass is one of my favourite Genesis albums -- in fact it's the one I enjoy most after The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, but aside from The Lamb I'm not a big fan of Genesis and generally much prefer Pink Floyd. I'm still choosing Animals as it has been the more important album to me over the years, and I do still enjoy it considerably. I think it's a very fine album, and love lyrics off it. It is my favourite post-Meddle Pink Floyd album. |
Posted By: Steven Brodziak
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 13:15
------------- Well, there it is. (Amadeus) |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 13:25
Good lyrics, but the lyrics on Animals resonate more with me -- I find messages more poignant, wry, and meaningful. I'll take the knife part in Dogs "You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to, so that when they turn their backs on you, you'll get the chance to put the knife in" over poetry in The Knife. Incidentally, i'm not someone who commonly pays much attention to lyrics, as I tend to prefer instrumental music to songs. And I like Yeats, Dylan Thomas, and Blake, but I'm not much of a poetry guy. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 18:15
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Trespass for me. I was a later comer for Animals so it comes in second.
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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: March 22 2011 at 22:18
Seems that you are always confronting one of the best albums of Pink Floyd with not one of the best of Genesis..... (my affirmation is supported in the Progarchives ranking). By this way always Pink Floyd will win the poll....
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 23 2011 at 03:56
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in a certain way two opposite recordings - one marks the rise of a prog group, the other the decline of another group. yes, I say decline - "Animals" is in my opinion a bad album - a bunch of boring old farts don'tmanage to get their asses into motion and are overtaken by punk and new wave. the album is "behäbig", to use a German word which roughly translates as "sedate", though there is no fitting English translation for that word. so my vote of course goes to "Trespass", though it suffers from bad drumming, in my opinion. Genesis knew why they were searching for a drummer and were lucky to find Phil Collins for the next album -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 23 2011 at 05:03
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^Agree with you on everything. Shame about the sloppy drumming on Trespass, but I still love it.
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: March 23 2011 at 05:09
This. ------------- 
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: March 23 2011 at 22:19
If you're basing your opinion on the rising popularity of punk and new wave in the late 70's and falling popularity of Prog Rock, you're chosen the wrong band to criticize, because Pink Floyd were one of the few Prog Rock bands to make a successful transition into the 80's, with sales of The Wall album outstripping sales of most punk and new wave bands combined. Until the arrival of U2 many punk and new wave bands didn't know which end of the guitar to play, so give me the bunch of boring old farts any day of the week.
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: March 23 2011 at 22:39
Maybe it's just me, but I wasn't distracted by the drumming at all. John Mayhew clearly wasn't the right drummer for Genesis and it was fortuitous that Phil Collins happened to be around at that time, but I still think that Trespass is a superior album to Nursery Cryme. To draw a comparison to Marillion, Ian Mosley IMO is a much better drummer than Mick Pointer, but Script For A Jester's Tear is a much better album than Fugazi.
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Posted By: esky
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 16:57
| STOP IT ALREADY (animals)! |
Posted By: Steven Brodziak
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 13:07
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I think Mayhew did a fine job drumming on Trespass. The album is what it is. and I love it. So do 27 others apparently. Cudos to those 27! ------------- Well, there it is. (Amadeus) |
Posted By: silcir
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 14:37
| Animals. My favorite Pink Floyd album. Tresspass still great anyway. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 14:53
I am basing my opinion on the album "Animals" alone. I mention punk and new wave because of their energy only and nothing else; compared to that "Animals" is "behäbig" indeed. Sales have never interested me; if anything they are an indicator of mediocrity. There are exceptions to that; even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while, but as a rule of thumbs it works pretty well. ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: The Wrinkler
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 15:15
That's a good way to put it, but mine is Animals, with Trespass as a later comer.  |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 03:51
I said I still love, didn't I? I also voted for it. -------------
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Posted By: Mista-Gordie
Date Posted: April 04 2011 at 20:16
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........................... ............................... tied. both are masterpieces
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