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Topic: advise please
Posted By: Stool Man
Subject: advise please
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 13:38
Hello

I'm planning to write a book about progressive rock.  My intention is that it will give equal coverage to all the sub-genres listed on the PA site and so will not just be about the 60s/70s bands with a final bit about the recent years - it will cover everything more broadly. 
I don't want it to focus on the albums exclusively, and I don't want it to just be a series of potted mini-biogs on 200 or so bands (though those may be included as an appendix).

I'm still at the planning stage at the moment, nothing's been written yet.  Also, I have very little knowledge of prog, so will have to research a lot (which is essential for book writing anyway, of course)

So my question to you is - what would you like me to include in the book?


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 13:40
Why would you want to write a book about something that you have little knowledge in? Confused


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 13:57
Equal coverage to all the sub-genres? With very little knowledge of prog?ConfusedConfused

The very best of luck to you, but even the most cursory glance at the mighty Prog Archives will inform you that such a book would make War And Peace look like a Bob The Builder novel in terms of lengthLOL


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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 14:58
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Why would you want to write a book about something that you have little knowledge in? Confused


Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 15:13
Well, I guess this book will be a way to increase his knowledge?
Especially if all that research is done.

My only advice is do lots of research, internet (PA, wiki, etc) and listening to the actual music.
I think it'd be good to hit on the roots of prog, like psych rock, zappa, etc
Start with the definitive album ITCotCK, and as you said go decade by decade.
Find the "big" bands of the times, new trends, influences, changes in music etc  also try to find some good but lesser known bands, can't have all big names.

I did something like this with metal in HS, so good luck and have fun


Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 17:17
Good luck with this, PA will indeed be an excellent resource.

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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 21:55
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Why would you want to write a book about something that you have little knowledge in? Confused


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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 07:29
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Why would you want to write a book about something that you have little knowledge in? Confused
 
The book will partially be a document of my finding things out, my initial thoughts on hearing this-or-that album, and so on. 
I am very interested in prog but know little about it beyond the very obvious basics, and I'm sure such a book would have a potential readership of many other people who are also very interested but have little knowledge beyond the basics.  The reader can discover things along with me, as it were.
 
It'll give equal space to the early years and the recent years (and the in between years if possible) and it'll give equal space to the big obvious bands and the newer or less popular bands
 
But which bands do I leave out?  which bands do I include?  If I'm including (let's say) 200 bands then where do I draw the line within each subgenre?  Do solo artists merit separate attention as well as the bands they sprang from?  Should carpet roadies get a mention? 


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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: March 28 2011 at 07:58
If you write a book you could include all these bands and albums - my personal list....
 
MY TOP 50 PROG ALBUMS BY ARTIST (all artists allowed one choice in top 50 but others listed in brackets)

1 AYREON - The Human Equation (2nd TIMELINE; 3RD IN THE ELECTRIC CASTLE)
2 PINK FLOYD - The Wall (2ND DARK SIDE OF THE MOON; 3RD WISH YOU WERE HERE; 4TH PULSE)
3 VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR - Pawn Hearts (2ND H TO HE WHO AM THE ONLY ONE; 3RD GODBLUFF; 4TH VITAL)
4 RUSH - Moving Pictures (2ND FAREWELL TO KINGS; 3RD HEMISPHERES; 4TH Permanent Waves )
5 YES - Fragile (2ND CLOSE TO THE EDGE; 3RD TALES OF TOPOGRAPHIC OCEANS; 4TH RELAYER)
6 DREAM THEATER - Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From A Memory (2nd OCTAVARIUM; 3rd BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS)
7 EMERSON LAKE & PALMER- Welcome Back My Friends To The Show That Never Ends (2nd BRAIN SALAD SURGERY; 3rd TARKUS)
8 GENESIS - Foxtrot (2ND NURSERY CRYME; 3RD SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND; 4TH TRICK OF THE TAIL)
9 KING CRIMSON - In The Court Of The Crimson King (2ND RED; 3RD DISCIPLINE)
10 HAWKWIND - Space Ritual (2nd IN SEARCH OF SPACE; 3rd IN THE HALL OF THE MOUNTAIN GRILL)
11 QUEENSRYCHE - Operation: Mindcrime (2ND OPERATION LIVECRIME)
12 ATOMIC ROOSTER - DEATH WALKS BEHIND YOU (2ND IN HEARING OF; 3RD MADE IN ENGLAND)
13 THE BEATLES - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (2nd WHITE ALBUM, 3rd REVOLVER)
14 JETHRO TULL - Thick As A Brick (2nd 25TH ANNIVERSARY COLLECTION; 3RD AQUALUNG)
15 KRAFTWERK - The Man-Machine (Die Mensch-Maschine) (2ND COMPUTER WORLD; 3RD MINIMUM: MAXIMUM)
16 NEKTAR - A Tab In The Ocean (2ND REMEMBER THE FUTURE; 3RD BACK TO EARTH)
17 CAMEL - Mirage (2ND MOONMADNESS; 3RD CAMEL)
18 PORCUPINE TREE - Deadwing (2ND FEAR OF A BLANK PLANET; 3RD THE INCIDENT)
19 RIVERSIDE - Anno Domini High Definition (2ND SECOND LIFE SYNDROME; 3RD RAPID EYE MOVEMENT)
20 CARAVAN - IN THE LAND OF GREY AND PINK (2ND FOR GIRLS WHO GROW PLUM IN THE NIGHT; 3RD AND THE NEW SYMPHONIA)

21 DEVIN TOWNSEND - Ziltoid the Omniscient
22 AREA - Arbeit Macht Frei (2ND CRAC!)
23 BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO - Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso (2nd IO SONO NATO LIBERO; 3rd DARWIN)
24 THE ARTHUR BROWN BAND - The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown
25 DÜN - Eros
26 LE ORME - Uomo Di Pezza (2ND FELONA E SERONA)
27 RENAISSANCE - Ashes Are Burning (2ND SCHEHERAZADE AND OTHER STORIES; 3RD TURN OF THE CARDS)
28 MAUDLIN OF THE WELL - Part the Second
29 IQ - Frequency
30 MASTERS APPRENTICES, THE - Fully Qualified: The Choicest Cuts
31 WISHBONE ASH - Argus (2ND TIMELINE... THIS WAS: LIVE)
32 MOODY BLUES, THE - This Is The Moody Blues (2ND DAYS OF FUTURE PAST)
33 MAGMA - Mëkanïk Dëstruktïẁ Kömmandöh
34 ANEKDOTEN - Vemod
35 DEEP PURPLE - In Rock (2ND MADE IN JAPAN; 3RD MACHINE HEAD)
36 DIAGONAL - DIAGONAL
37 MARILLION - MISPLACED CHILDHOOD (2ND SCRIPT OF A JESTER?S TEAR)
38 BLACK BONZO - SOUND OF THE APOCALYPSE
39 BLACK SABBATH - PARANOID
40 PFM - PER UN AMICO (2ND PHOTOS OF GHOSTS)
41 OPETH - DAMNATION (2ND STILL LIFE)
42 PAIN OF SALVATION - THE PERFECT ELEMENT (2ND REMEDY LANE)
43 GENTLE GIANT - THREE FRIENDS (2ND FREE HAND; 3RD POWER AND THE GLORY)
44 MOSTLY AUTUMN - STORMS OVER STILL WATER (2ND PASSENGERS; 3RD SPIRIT OF AUTUMN PAST)
45 LED ZEPPELIN - 4 (2ND 2; 3RD REMASTERS 1)
46 MENAHEM - ANGELS AND SHADOWS
47 ANGLAGARD - HYBRIS
48 ASTRA - THE WEIRDING
49 GONG - YOU (2ND ANGEL'S EGG; 3RD FLYING TEAPOT)
50 METALLICA - METALLICA (2ND MASTER OF PUPPETS; 3RD DEATH MAGNETIC)

Others:
NEAL MORSE - SOLA SCRIPTURA
JIMI HENDRIX - ARE YOU EXPERIENCED?
MASTODON - CRACK THE SKYE
MUSE - ABSOLUTION (2nd BLACK HOLES AND REVELATIONS)
SPOCK'S BEARD - OCTANE (2nd LIVE)
SOUNDGARDEN - SUPERUNKNOWN
HAKEN - AQUARIUS
BACAMARTE - DEPOIS DO FIM
STAR ONE - VICTIMS OF THE MODERN AGE
PHIDEAUX - DOOMSDAY AFTERNOON (2nd SNOWTORCH)
PERSEPHONE'S DREAM - PAN: AN URBAN PASTORAL
U.K - U.K

 
 


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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 09:34
Thanks for the list - I already had it in mind to include most of those bands, the exceptions being things like Metallica and Led Zeppelin - just bands everyone's aware of really.  I mostly want to explore the obscurities and the dark little nooks and crannies of prog.

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rotten hound of the burnie crew



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