The far ends of the talent spectrum
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Topic: The far ends of the talent spectrum
Posted By: Negoba
Subject: The far ends of the talent spectrum
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 10:15
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So I'm combing through some youtube and such watching guitarists and saw the version of Stevie Ray Vaughn's "Riviera Paradise" he performed the night of his death. The talent and soul in that player was just unfair. A true artist.
Earlier in the day I had heard, for the first time, one of the songs off Metallica's Death Magnetic "My Apocalypse" Kirk Hammett may well be the most talentless hack to ever grace major stages. I was thinking to myself that every one of Megadeth's guitarists could probably play Hammett's solos note-for-note after one listening, with more authentic emotion.
So give me first a musician whose talent just floors you, otherworldly.
And then a musician who just mystifies in its crappitude. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 14:24
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In the rock world: Terry Bozzio (talent) - Mike Pointer (opposite)
I'll come up with more names later ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 14:26
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I agree about Kirk Hammett. Never rated him at all and his solos have always left me cold. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 14:55
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Awesome: Drums- Neil Peart Bass- Victor Wooten Guitar- Steve Howe Keyboards- Rick Wakeman Compositions- Kerry Livgren Terrible: All of the Above- Simon Railton ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 14:59
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Also, I want to take this moment to complain about Mike Oldfield. Not his playing, but his tone. He has to have the worst electric guitar tone I've ever heard. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 15:00
Utter nonsense. His tone is superb and definitive. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Epignosis wrote:Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 15:05
That's too easy.  And Wakeman is pretty much second to Richard Clyderman, so I think whatever talent we're talking about, it went the drain, in the last 30 years at least. ------------- 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 15:06
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Vocals:
Talented - Russell Allen. Good - Peter Gabriel Bad - Jon Anderson Horrible at everything - Zappa  -------------
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 15:16
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Christina Aguilera = talented singer who not only are compareable to her pairs (Britney, Shakira, Gwen Stefani and Jessica Simpson), but are compareable also to the most tallented female singers and divas)
Britney Spears = she got the looks and some mooves but have a average potensial can not be compared to the great vocal talants like Straisand, Warwick, Ross, Dion and Huoston. Aguilera can raise here head and compare herself to the elite divas. -------------  
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 15:21
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Although on the biggest stage of her life, Christina Aguilera can't remember the words to the Star-Spangled Banner. ------------- 
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 15:29
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She was showing her age a tad too...the sad life of eye candy. Glad I'm so unpleasant to look at. I digress to the norm with age. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 15:29
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^and it was not the forgetting of the lyrics what made that performance atrocious... -------------
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 16:03
I cannot listen to an Oldfield album with headphones. His tone is tinny and causes me pain. Worst ever. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 18:09
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I'm and Oldfield fan and all of y'all are full of crap.
------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 20:30
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Unbelievable talent: Guitar: Shawn Lane Drums: Tony Royster Jr. Not bad, I just dont get the attraction: |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 21:08
His tone on Songs from a Distant Earth is wondrous. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 21:23
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Could never decide on one truly amazing artist (I'm way to easily impressed I guess. ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 21:40
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Agree about SRV-- I think he came off to many as just some modern blues player or Albert King/Hendrix imitator. But live, especially in his drunken heyday during the early 80s, he was incredible, probably the greatest white bluesman ever. I also have to agree about Hammett, low on skill and taste, high on bluff. As for pop stars, Pink has tremendous talent, great voice and a real edge to her music. |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 21:49
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Oh, it's in the general music forum! Talented: John Coltrane Pharoah Sanders Worst piece of crap ever to blow into a saxophone: Kenny G ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 03:50
I prefer him as a bassist. ------------- What? |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 08:32
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Bassists: 1° the Good: - Jean-Yves "Blacky" Thériault (Voïvod) 2° the Bad: - Lemmy Kilmister 3° the Ugly: - Mike Rutherford |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 10:39
Wakeman is often mistaken for Clayderman, I don't think he's too impressed about it.
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 10:46
Have to agree with the Snow Dog here. I've taken quite a liking to Oldfield's playing lately. ------------- 
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 21:54
Nonsense, Friday is possibly the funniest bad song because of the lyrics, but I can give you 4 worse songs right now without even using Brokencyde or another Ark musician. Friday x 10, and possibly an al-Qaeda propaganda video. I've actually watched Friday more than once, but I can't make it to the end of this song. This song and video is God's punishment for our sins, and I would play it on every TV at every mall across the country if I could. We deserve it. Surely there cannot be a song with a chorus worse than this. Oh, there is. If you're curious, Willow has now moved up from whatever that was to Ke$ha for the second single from her upcoming debut album, except that she's 10 so it's more than a little unsettling. At least wait until you're 14 to start sexualizing yourself so I don't feel so bad when I masturbate. She's going to be great in the remake of Annie! ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 21:58
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male vocalists: good - Antoine Paganotti wretched - Cedric Bixler Zavala |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 17:28
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Drums: - Good: Charles Hayward. - Bad: Steven Adler. - Ugly: Lars Ulrich. Vocals: - Good: Peter Hamill. - Bad: Tom Waits. - Ugly: Christian Vander. |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 20:45
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Tom Waits?
wut ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: July 20 2011 at 19:56
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Have to disagree with Tom Waits. I have Swordfishtrombones, and I like his hoarse singing. Then again, that's what happens when you keep listening to Don Van Vliet and Lee Jackson.
------------- He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball! |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 20 2011 at 20:32
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guitar -fantastic-Eddy Marron -ok-Alex Lifeson -not so ok-Kirk Hammett keyboards-fantastic-Jurgen Fritz -ok-Rick Wakeman -not so ok-Tony Banks bass guitar-fantastic-Helmut Koellen -ok-Geddy Lee -not so ok-Lemmy drums-fantastic-Jo Koinzer -ok-Bill Ward -not so ok-Dave Holland |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: July 20 2011 at 20:43
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Love to pieces: Tom Waits Frank Herbert The original Twilight Zone Loathe completely: Overkill Anne Rice Pretty much any tv show from the past thirty years (including exter, Charmed, Lost, 24, American Idol, any sitcom other than Married: with Children, and especially the 'actuality/reality tv' movement) Love bunches: Stevie Wonder Sling Blade H.R. Giger George Carlin George Harrison Can't tolerate: Dane Cook Thomas Kinkade Maroon 5 John Petrucci Pretty much any Apatow comedy.
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: July 21 2011 at 14:48
But then again Frank would admit that he wouldn't sing and play guitar at the same time. I think that his singing is more about humor and social commentary. |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 21 2011 at 15:22
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A Rich gravy poured from a midas jug - Arthur Brown Sandpaper on the soul - Geddy Lee ------------- 
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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: July 21 2011 at 16:36
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Drums:
Excellent: Bill Bruford
Good: Bobby Caldwell: Captain beyond and Armageddon
Bad: Virgil Donati
Bass:
Excellent: Chris Squire
Good: Billy Sheehan
Bad: Gene Simmons
Guitar:
Excellent: Mike Bloomfield
Good: Jan Akkerman
Bad: George Thorogood
Vocals:
Excellent: Ronnie James Dio
Good: Chris Cornell
Bad: Bob Dylan
Keys:
Excellent: Keith Emerson
Good: Vincent Crane
Bad: Eddie Van Halen
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 21 2011 at 19:37
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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: July 22 2011 at 08:05
 I saw him live 20 years ago and was he ever sloppy on the guitar. Basically it was all distortion. |