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Topic: Vangelis 'Electronic' Recordings.
Posted By: zerohero1266
Subject: Vangelis 'Electronic' Recordings.
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 08:11
Recently listened to my couple of Vangelis 'Best Offs' & really enjoying them.Now my question is which of hisalbums would say come more under the banner of 'electronic' or 'synth' based ? Maybe along the lines of 'Pulstar'.Thanks

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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 08:13
Blade Runner?


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 09:49
Most of his later '70's stuff is worth checking out.  The first Jon and Vangelis album is rather good. My favorites are Heaven and Hell and Albedo 0.39.  Like Spiral as well.


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 10:32
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Most of his later '70's stuff is worth checking out.  The first Jon and Vangelis album is rather good. My favorites are Heaven and Hell and Albedo 0.39.  Like Spiral as well.
Agreed but I add China to the list


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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 12:06
The Blade Runner OST is one of my top fifteen favorite albums of all time, right up there with Kid A and Wish You Were Here.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 13:52
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Most of his later '70's stuff is worth checking out.  The first Jon and Vangelis album is rather good. My favorites are Heaven and Hell and Albedo 0.39.  Like Spiral as well.
Agreed but I add China to the list
I like China, Bladerunner, Antarctica, too.  If you really really really want to challenge yourself - Beauborg.


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 13:55
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Most of his later '70's stuff is worth checking out.  The first Jon and Vangelis album is rather good. My favorites are Heaven and Hell and Albedo 0.39.  Like Spiral as well.
Agreed but I add China to the list
I like China, Bladerunner, Antarctica, too.  If you really really really want to challenge yourself - Beauborg.
That one is bit challenging effectively Wink


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 10:47
All of his albums post Heaven and Hell (1975) are 'electronic recordings'. Before that he didn't use synthisisers at all that I am aware of. I have nearly all his albums and can give a brief run down of his best work post 1975.
 
RCA releases
Heaven and Hell (1975)
Albedo 0.39 (1976)
Spiral (1977)
Beauborg (1978)
 
With perhaps the exception of the 'avante garde' Beauborg these were aimed at the seventies prog audience that wanted more Rick Wakeman/Mike Oldfield and Tangerine Dream so are the ones that fit best into this site imo.
 
During the seventies he also did several soundtracks that could almost be regarded 'new age' including
Ignacio (1975)
La Fete Sauvage (1976)
Opera Sauvage (1979)
 
These don't perhaps fit so well!
 
After Vangelis left RCA and went to Polydor his music became more interesting to me. I would count this as his most creative period (1979 - 1985) although perhaps less aimed at a prog market.
Significant releases
China
See You Later
Chariots Of Fire
Blade Runner
Antarctica
Soil Festivities
Mask
 
a great run of albums in my opinion
 
also during this time he did 3 albums with Jon Anderson. I only own the Best Of and Private Collection and thats enough for me
 
After 1985 Vangelis quit England and Polydor and set up his own recording studio in Greece.His career from here is very patchy with some good albums and not so good.
The heaviest from an electronic perspective must surely be Direct (1989). This sits alongside Albedo and Spiral as great electronic prog but judging by other peoples reviews I seem to be the only one who really likes this.
 
In the 90's I like Oceanic and Voices. The latter especially is one of my favourite Vangelis albums although not 'heavy'.
 
The other significant release is perhaps El Greco which to me is an albsolute masterpeice. Very atmospheric and one of the most serious of all Vangelis compositional works although again not heavy.
 
Brief summary
 
If you are looking for a heavy electronic prog style:
Heaven and Hell
Albedo
Spiral
Direct
those are the ones to get imo.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 11:02
Invisible connections, recorded for Deutcsche Grammophon, is totally electronic in a literal sense but it's hardly listenable unless you are a fan of that kind of music. So I won't suggest starting from it even if i quite like it.

"quite like it" = "I can listen to the whole album without falling asleep" 


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 12:39
I also like The City and Voices.  Mythodea didn't really click with me.  

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 14:13
^Mythodea is also much more a classical recording utilising operatic vocals rather than the heavy electronic style music the OP is looking for (although there are synths). Its very good although I would recommend the DVD as a much more interesting experience.


Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 14:42
Any thoughts on the expanded "Blade runner" with 3 CDs? I understand the third CD is new recordings "inspired" by the film.


Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 14:58
This one should answer your expectations :


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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 16:30
Hey you prog fellows ! Vangelis is my field but you did the whole job before i come LOL maybe i can suggest Earth even if not quite electronic and the two albums with Irene Papas , Odes and Rhapsody , about the Blade runner trilogy the second cd with unreleased stuff is average, the third cd with new stuff is very good, i had the chance to get the Sex Power soundtrack lp and i like it very much because it displays the old Vangelis sound ( selfmade Hammond with a lot of effects ) i know the other Chapier movie soundtrack ( Amore ) has been released in the late sixties but it's rare and expensive and i know ther's a lot of unreleased tv and movie soundtracks from late sixties seventies and eighties


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 16:42
You can have a look to this dvd too , Georges Mathieu ou la fureur d'etre , a F Rossif movie showing Vangelis and the painter Mathieu performing and creating simultaneously, great time, it's from 1971, Vangelis did many other soundtracks for Rossif about painters ( Picasso, Braque.....) and for other subjects like the Nurember trial


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 19 2011 at 01:21
Well if we are going into earlier Vangelis recordings I will chuck in The Dragon as well as the already mentioned Earth. Another very beautifull Vangelis album is Apocalypse Des Animaux which is more in a 'new age' style  but it does contain some stunning music.None of these albums has synths though.Earth is more percussive in style and energetic and so might be more interesting to the OP.
 
 


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 19 2011 at 01:34
From Direct:
 
 
 
and something very beautifull from L'Apolcalypse D'es Animaux
 
 
 


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 19 2011 at 02:42
It's nice to see that Vangelis has so many fans here on PA. Effectively more or less ALL his production deserves to be listened to. I suggest "Everything but See you Later"

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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: May 19 2011 at 03:48
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Well if we are going into earlier Vangelis recordings I will chuck in The Dragon as well as the already mentioned Earth. Another very beautifull Vangelis album is Apocalypse Des Animaux which is more in a 'new age' style  but it does contain some stunning music.None of these albums has synths though.Earth is more percussive in style and energetic and so might be more interesting to the OP.
    I saw Vangelis on stage in Paris after Earth release, he played the dragon and it was tittled La chanson du serpent ( the snake song ) it was powerful with about 15 girls singing and playing percussions but when i met him around 1980, he told me he didn't wanted Dragon and Hypothesis to be released because they're unfinished, anyway i got them though and love them. Apocalypse des animaux is great , i just love Creation du monde, but i don't agree about telling it's new age , new age was not born at the time ( even the word )
 


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: May 19 2011 at 03:49
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

It's nice to see that Vangelis has so many fans here on PA. Effectively more or less ALL his production deserves to be listened to. I suggest "Everything but See you Later"
  Love this one too LOL Specialy the long track with Koulouris playing the guitar


Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: May 20 2011 at 10:50
 from See You Later album.


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 20 2011 at 10:57
I consider this his absolutely worst album....well if you listen to "Suffocation" you'll understand why...
But you can find good stuff also in the worst.


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 20 2011 at 11:00
Try this, instead 



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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: May 20 2011 at 11:04
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

I consider this his absolutely worst album....well if you listen to "Suffocation" you'll understand why...
But you can find good stuff also in the worst.
I love "See You Later" the song alot but theres some problem with the video that I removed the title track video Confused


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 20 2011 at 11:09
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

I consider this his absolutely worst album....well if you listen to "Suffocation" you'll understand why...
But you can find good stuff also in the worst.
I love "See You Later" but theres some problem with the video above so I must removed the title track Confused
In my review of the album I have saved only "Memories of Green", but the principal reason of my hate for that album is that I speak Italian and I fully understand the crap that Chrisma say on "Suffocation". Apart of this, it's the only album that I really dislike in his huge discography. And of course it's always question of tastes. I don't see anything bad if you like it and the track that you posted (until it starts having problems) is quite good.

I'm happy of this thread because I think Vangelis deserves more popularity here and prog-related is not the right place for him. I think that Progressive electronic is more appropriate. 


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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: May 20 2011 at 11:14



Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 20 2011 at 15:57
Originally posted by jean-marie jean-marie wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Well if we are going into earlier Vangelis recordings I will chuck in The Dragon as well as the already mentioned Earth. Another very beautifull Vangelis album is Apocalypse Des Animaux which is more in a 'new age' style  but it does contain some stunning music.None of these albums has synths though.Earth is more percussive in style and energetic and so might be more interesting to the OP.
    I saw Vangelis on stage in Paris after Earth release, he played the dragon and it was tittled La chanson du serpent ( the snake song ) it was powerful with about 15 girls singing and playing percussions but when i met him around 1980, he told me he didn't wanted Dragon and Hypothesis to be released because they're unfinished, anyway i got them though and love them. Apocalypse des animaux is great , i just love Creation du monde, but i don't agree about telling it's new age , new age was not born at the time ( even the word )
 
 
the 'new age' reference is just me being lazy!
although Vangelis did contribute to it with the brilliant Soil Festivities in the eightiesBig smile
 
btw I quite like some 'new age' stuff so it wasn't meant in a negative way.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 20 2011 at 16:01
Not sure why See You Later is not liked. I've always found it very enjoyable although a while back I accidently dropped it resulting in a large scratch on the surface such that it doesn't play properly.
 
Anwyay I like this (am I strange?)
 
 


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 08:26
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Not sure why See You Later is not liked. I've always found it very enjoyable although a while back I accidently dropped it resulting in a large scratch on the surface such that it doesn't play properly.
 
Anwyay I like this (am I strange?)    No Richard !  you're not strange i'm the same as you, i like it , don't worry about new age Wink it's just that to many ones used that word as negative about some Vangelis albums
 
 


Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: June 11 2011 at 00:02
During my teen years in the 70's there would be these "favorite album" periods.  For a while it was
Tales, then it was Patrick Moraz's first solo album "I".  One time however it was Vangelis' Beauborg.
That is his most abstract album and probably the most avant garde record made by anyone associated
with prog.  It sounds more like something by Stockhausen than anyone associated with a member of Yes.


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 11 2011 at 02:11
Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

During my teen years in the 70's there would be these "favorite album" periods.  For a while it was
Tales, then it was Patrick Moraz's first solo album "I".  One time however it was Vangelis' Beauborg.
That is his most abstract album and probably the most avant garde record made by anyone associated
with prog.  It sounds more like something by Stockhausen than anyone associated with a member of Yes.
 
Certainly a very intriguing work. I normally hate this sort of stuf but I can listen to Beauborg from start to back without any problem.


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: June 11 2011 at 04:09
Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

During my teen years in the 70's there would be these "favorite album" periods.  For a while it was
Tales, then it was Patrick Moraz's first solo album "I".  One time however it was Vangelis' Beauborg.
That is his most abstract album and probably the most avant garde record made by anyone associated
with prog.  It sounds more like something by Stockhausen than anyone associated with a member of Yes.
   Try invisible connections



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