Throbbing Gristle has arrived.
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Topic: Throbbing Gristle has arrived.
Posted By: Sheavy
Subject: Throbbing Gristle has arrived.
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 21:17
Yes, that is right. Lets see them reviews. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6504" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6504 ------------- 
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 21:21
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I will have to write a few. I am huge industrial fan. Contrary to popular opinion, The Second Annual Report is their best album.
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 21:21
Lol, you will not like my review then.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 21:23
But you reviewed the Third Annual Report.  FYI, there are a lot of albums missing from their discography, you know.-------------
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Sheavy wrote:Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 21:25
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Yea, I know I got confused with Third and Second, and yeah I was going to wait and see if Phillipe got around to adding any more. Tg were added yesterday but he did not add any other albums after Second until today -------------
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 21:52
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I just posted my review of 20 Jazz Funk Greats. I'll get around to doing them all eventually.
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 21:53
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Yay. -------------
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 21:58
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So now I assume you'll be adding Coil, Psychic TV, Nurse With Wound, Foetus, Cabaret Voltaire, Einstürzende Neubauten, Skinny Puppy, SPK, Laibach and Current 93?
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 22:01
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I seriously doubt Phillippe will let most of those bands in mainly because TG started the whole movement and is a lot more prog. Nurse With Wound should be here I think, and I have suggested Current 93 for Prog Folk, but Clem will not reply to my inquiry on how the suggestion is going.  I also have nothing to do with adding bands if you are aiming that question at me.
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: July 07 2011 at 00:03
| This is really strange. I wonder how people will react to this? Have most people heard "Journey Through A Body?" or "In the Shadow of the Sun?" They truly produced some disturbing images like car accidents and the disturbing interview tapes with psycho killers that were spliced into their white noise. What I found really strange about them is present on "In the Shadow of the Sun" where they produce the actual sound of a Satan cult chanting and crying from a distance. It's pretty close to how one would sound if you were walking through a field at night and they are chanting to a ritual on the other side of the woods. I've never heard anyone imitate something so real. Not Jacula or Univers Zero on Heresie. So how did T.G. know? If anyone on P.A. has listened to "Heathen Earth" and can identify the conversation between Cosey Fanni Tutti and one of the members....I would greatly appreciate an explanation as to what they are conversing about. I believe she is approached by a pervert who wants to pay her for sex. The little skit is very strange though and has an undertone to it. It makes you wonder if they are trying to leave an impression on the listener's mind about danger. They were very strange in that way. They tried to scare you with songs about criminally insane people in the real world. Ironically they were also very comical. But you wouldn't want to have their music in your head as you walked a city street alone at night. lol |
Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: July 07 2011 at 01:13
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Wow, this is quite a surprise! I'm a fan. They make music more evil than any metal band could ever hope to be. They certainly were innovative, creative, and original, but I definitely wouldn't name them or think of them when listing prog bands! The Beach Boys are next? ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Neil-Kobrin/244687105562746" rel="nofollow - SUPPORT MY FATHER AND BECOME A FAN Jacob Kobrin Illustration |
Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: July 07 2011 at 01:20
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And I'm actually VERY surprised that TG are here but NOT Coil. I definitely think that Coil fall a bit more into prog rock than TG do. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Neil-Kobrin/244687105562746" rel="nofollow - SUPPORT MY FATHER AND BECOME A FAN Jacob Kobrin Illustration |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: July 07 2011 at 01:26
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Since some people are fans....can anyone tell me what it was I heard? Years ago someone played me a song by Throbbing Gristle and it sounded like someone being interviewed, about mailing pornography, while over weird noises. That was pretty much the whole thing |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: July 07 2011 at 03:30
That's why they're in avant . . . no, wait! they're not!   
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: July 07 2011 at 18:40
I can't believe this! It was the very first thing I heard from them in a record shop. I collected everything from T.G. and never found this particular recording. The conversation between man and woman off "Heathen Earth" is somewhat like it , but no.....this one was different.
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Posted By: avantgrind
Date Posted: July 07 2011 at 18:53
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this is awesome news. YES.
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Posted By: avantgrind
Date Posted: July 07 2011 at 19:09
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I wonder if Whitehouse will be next.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 07 2011 at 19:19
I'll never understand why Merzbow isn't in Progressive Electronic. -------------
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 07 2011 at 19:20
| Because it's too scary for Philippe |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: July 07 2011 at 19:26
I might review 1930 if it was added. |
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 07 2011 at 20:08
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His music is not Prog electronic. -------------
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 07 2011 at 20:14
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Well I think it is.
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 07 2011 at 20:21
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Meh, Aube is only on here because of the process of making his music, which is not just turning knobs on electronic equpiment and machines, like other noise artists.
I could be wrong on that, but that is the only reason i can see for him being here. -------------
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Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: July 07 2011 at 21:31
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I'm going to start a petition... PUT COIL IN THE ARCHIVES! ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Neil-Kobrin/244687105562746" rel="nofollow - SUPPORT MY FATHER AND BECOME A FAN Jacob Kobrin Illustration |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 08 2011 at 04:31
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Angry emoticons won't lead you anywhere...
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 08 2011 at 04:45
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When I asked about the addition of Throbbing Gristle about 3 or 4 years ago i was told they had no place here because they were industrial or something. I don't feel so foolish now. A worthy addition in my opinion. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: avantgrind
Date Posted: July 08 2011 at 22:16
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I got Heathen Earth tonight, just so you guys know. at a used CD store. next up, purchasing 2nd Annual Report on amazon. -------------
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: July 10 2011 at 00:11
Nice! Glad you know the joy, but you don't know what it was?  I really don't wanna listen to all their stuff and find it either |
Posted By: Takeshi Kovacs
Date Posted: July 10 2011 at 07:00
I'll sign that one. -------------  Open the gates of the city wide.... Check out my music taste: http://www.last.fm/user/TakeshiKovacs/ |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: July 10 2011 at 09:39
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hmmm... another band I have no idea about - will check em out but from all reports it sounds like very unfriendly music. ------------- 
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Posted By: avantgrind
Date Posted: July 10 2011 at 10:19
co-signed -------------
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 10 2011 at 12:13
He gets it!! |
Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: July 11 2011 at 00:28
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Did you guys know that Genesis P'Orridge is now a transsexual? He always had a weird look to him in the early days of TG, now it fits together a little better. ------------- -- Robert Pearson Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net |
Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: July 11 2011 at 01:13
I didn't mean that to sound offensive. I don't know what other transsexuals looked like before their hormone changes, etc. I think he intentionally was trying to look weird in the early days! ------------- -- Robert Pearson Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: July 11 2011 at 15:17
No, Genesis P.Orridge never "looked weird". He was just ugly. And now, she's ugly. But Marissa Martinez, singer/guitarist of Cretin, was an average guy who turned into a beautiful woman. Anyway, back to the topic. |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: July 11 2011 at 15:31
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I do think it kind of ironic that Genesis P Orridge is on PA now.
No real thoughts one way or the other as I don't really understand the different catagories of prog anyway (Or care).
Fad Gadget next up? Cabs? ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: July 11 2011 at 16:03
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Fad Gadget? No: too much "straight" electronic new wave. Cabaret Voltaire? Hum... Maybe for their first years, from 1974 to 1981, not for the following years. |
Posted By: avantgrind
Date Posted: July 11 2011 at 18:13
I "sort of" know her. thats all I'm gonna say. -------------
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: July 11 2011 at 22:57
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T.G. were suppose to be a bit of a joke anyway. Especially back in the late 70's. They are not really that much different from "The GTO'S, Wild Man Fischer, or the Residents. I suppose it may have been the punk thing which seperated their appearance from those bands, however they are just as strange. Throbbing Gristle's recordings were like film. "After Cease to Exist" was like that. They were all about noise and not music, however they had these creepy tapes brought in by Peter C. and it played like a film. The noise surrounded the tapes. I used to get a kick out of their studio albums. I wasn't fond of their live recordings ....for example "Funeral in Berlin". After Cease was live but felt studio. Here is a compilation I made:
Hamburger lady 20 Jazz Funk Greats
Weeping
E-Coli
Journey Through A Body
Excerpt from In the Shadow of the Sun (voices)
Excerpt from Heathen Earth (voices)
Persuasion Catholic Sex
What A Day
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Posted By: avantgrind
Date Posted: July 14 2011 at 09:44
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I like them anyways...
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: July 14 2011 at 22:21
The most God awful thing for you to sit through is "Subhuman" from their Greatest Hits cd. Probably clocking in a little over 4 minutes. Oh, they were very sick. Most people I knew did not take them seriously, but yet those exact people would find someone who would and make attempts to scare them by playing "Journey Through A Body" or "Hamburger Lady". They were most disturbing indeed. Cosy Fanni Tutti was a blast. I thought they were funny. They were a bit too personal with their subject matters. I think if a person was depressed and exposed to Throbbing Gristle's Industrial music their depression would increase to the extreme. Also if you are a paranoid person by nature .....you shouldn't be listening to T.G.
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Posted By: captain2man
Date Posted: July 16 2011 at 00:41
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I'm shocked that TG are here....although I guess a website like this shouldn't necessarily remain static. I'm a big TG fan....someone early in the thread said Second Annual Report was their favorite.....an interesting choice and a very good album - but IMO, the obvious choice IS the best album (and I believe that obvious choice to be 20 Jazz Funk Greats). I got to see them a couple of years back when they played the Brooklyn Masonic Temple in Brooklyn, NY....they played along with a showing of 'In the Shadow of the Sun' (original music - probably a lot improvised....not the same as on the soundtrack that was released)....then they did a signing (got my copy of 20JFG signed by all 4 of them)....and then they played another set - a regular set. For those interested in the history of the band, there's a very detailed tome called 'Wreckers of Civilization' by Simon Ford which goes back to the pre-TG days of Coum Transmission. There's also one of those 33 1/3 books about 20JFG....that's really good for people who are intrigued or interested but don't really "like" TG....but are curious to know why some people do. If you find yourself questioning the music of TG.....if you find yourself uncomfortable.....then - in fact - you DO "get it".
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Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: July 16 2011 at 15:56
| ok, we got TG so can we add Cabaret Voltaire to the site? |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: July 16 2011 at 17:31
------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: July 16 2011 at 17:34
------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: July 16 2011 at 20:54
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They're not Prog but there's far, far less deserving additions. Throbbing Gristle should appeal to Tool fans. |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 16 2011 at 21:19
Our US cousins should be aware that Throbbing Gristle is North East England slang for erm...a rush of blood south of the waist------------- 
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: July 17 2011 at 04:38
It's called "penis erection". Tsss, tsss. Why so complicated? |
Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 13:29
| Haven't listened to them for years. I saw them a couple of times around 79/80 ish. I'll have to dig out some of their old albums to treat the wife to an evening of listening pleasure. |
Posted By: N-sz
Date Posted: July 31 2011 at 11:02
| Sweet! I searched for them pretty recently and thought they should be here. I just accidentally came across the new page now. I don't have any of their albums so I'd like to see where it seems that I should start. |