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Topic: Invisible Touch vs We Can't Dance
Posted By: criticdrummer94
Subject: Invisible Touch vs We Can't Dance
Date Posted: July 18 2011 at 14:28
Another Genesis poll? Well yes and it's between the two most commercial and probably hated among Prog fans. I'm kinda excited to see how this one goes. I personally go with Invisible Touch because it just has seamless flow between all the tracks. They all feel like they belong.



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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: July 18 2011 at 14:50
Naahhh

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Posted By: Ruby900
Date Posted: July 18 2011 at 15:55
I realise I will probably get shot for this, but I think that both have some good points, but not enough for an album (between them)....LOLLOLLOL

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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: July 18 2011 at 17:26
None of them did it for me, and still remain quite empty in my book.


Posted By: The T
Date Posted: July 18 2011 at 17:34
Invisible Touch has more memorable songs than We can't Dance, hence my vote


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 04:36
Equally weak overall, but both have a couple of good tracks: Domino, Land of Confusion, Fading Lights, No son of Mine..

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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 05:04
Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

None of them did it for me, and still remain quite empty in my book.


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 05:34
Invisible Touch has a great sound, and I like all of the songs, although "Anything She Does" is a bit weak.
 
We Can't Dance suffers from the fact that in the age of cd a band thinks they should have to fill in an hour of music and has a few fillers, but also: it misses intensity. I like "Fading Lights" but it is a far cry from the early epic works.
 
I choose IT.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 05:38
Invisible Touch is their best album of the post Hackett period. For me anyway.

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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 06:46
Neither. Two uninteresting songs.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 07:11
I used to have the first album and have only heard the hits off the second, which I have in video format as part of a compilation, so damned if I know which one is better.

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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 12:25
The neither option.


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 12:36
I think they're both pretty good.  Invisible Touch has a better group of songs overall.  We Can't Dance has a few feeble attempts to get their "prog" back, and while they aren't terrible, they do water the album down somewhat.  Plus there's more filler tracks like "Live Forever", which are probably Mike and the Mechanics rejects.  Invisible Touch on the other hand... I can't really think of any songs on that one I dislike.

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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 12:57
I like them both, but Invisible Touch just gets it.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 13:49
We Can't Dance

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Posted By: wilmon91
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 17:51
We Can't Dance by far. Invisible Touch hasn't aged well - I really don't like the sound. The album feels tense, I don't feel well listening to it. WCD is more laid back, and the sound is much better than IT. I can find four good songs there.

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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 17:57
Both aren't too good.



Posted By: Todd
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 18:53
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

I like them both, but Invisible Touch just gets it.
 
This, but Fading Lights gives We Can't Dance my vote, even though Invisible Touch was the second CD I ever bought, back in 1986 when I began to accumulate CDs instead of vinyl.
 
Edit: went with "both"


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Posted By: Adams Bolero
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 20:00
This is in prog polls?Confused

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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 21:01
We Can't Dance for me has the best overall songs. It is really only the title tracks of both that bug me!

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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 21:42
Originally posted by Adams Bolero Adams Bolero wrote:

This is in prog polls?Confused


Well yes because they're done by a prog... band...?

Confused


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Posted By: Adams Bolero
Date Posted: July 20 2011 at 11:28
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Adams Bolero Adams Bolero wrote:

This is in prog polls?Confused


Well yes because they're done by a prog... band...?

Confused

I see your point but could you really call Genesis a prog band at that time? To me they stopped being a prog band the moment Hackett left; invisible Touch seems to be just 80s generic pop to my ears. I guess we shouldn't have a cut off point for artists who stop making prog albums; I don’t think there could be a general agreement about what point they stopped being prog.



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 20 2011 at 11:33
^To me, both these albums have a bit of Prog.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 21 2011 at 14:00
Both. The amplitude (highlights vs deceptions) of Invisible Touch is far greater. though...

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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: July 22 2011 at 06:07
Invisible Touch

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Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: July 22 2011 at 07:25
We Can't Dance is longer and has more songs to extract from, but Invisible Touch is a shorter, tighter record. Actually I like the self-titled (toy shapes) album better than either of those two.


Posted By: The Mystical
Date Posted: August 26 2013 at 08:29
I prefer Invisible Touch.

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 26 2013 at 13:26
Count me in for 'We Can't Dance' - the track 'Fading Lights' alone makes it worthwhile......


Posted By: Codera the Great
Date Posted: October 21 2013 at 01:54
For me, it's We Can't Dance. Even though "I Can't Dance" is god awful and is one of the worst Genesis songs ever written, many of the other songs on the album have a very nice smooth feel to them, I like songs like "No Son of Mine" and "Hold on My Heart" for what it's worth. It's a nice guilty pleasure so to speak. Invisible Touch has some good songs too ("In Too Deep" is the best for me I admit), but doesn't really resonate with me all that much in comparison to its successor. 


Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: October 21 2013 at 02:08
Never heard either so well, my completely biased opinion is purely based on the singles that went with them.   

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Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: October 21 2013 at 02:15
Never heard them. Should I change that?


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 21 2013 at 03:27
We Can't Dance has better songs like Fading Lights, Dreaming While You Sleep, Driving the Last Spike; these three make this album win for me over Invisible Touch (which has only two great songs - Domino and land of Confusion).


Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: October 21 2013 at 04:06
Originally posted by Codera the Great Codera the Great wrote:

For me, it's We Can't Dance. Even though "I Can't Dance" is god awful and is one of the worst Genesis songs ever written, many of the other songs on the album have a very nice smooth feel to them, I like songs like "No Son of Mine" and "Hold on My Heart" for what it's worth. It's a nice guilty pleasure so to speak. Invisible Touch has some good songs too ("In Too Deep" is the best for me I admit), but doesn't really resonate with me all that much in comparison to its successor. 

Well stated. I've always thought that We Can't dance is underrated on this site. I've never liked Invisible Touch.


Posted By: benbell
Date Posted: October 21 2013 at 04:47
For me it has to be We Can't Dance, if only for the instrumental in Fading Lights.

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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: October 21 2013 at 08:58
Despite being one of the simplest Genesis albums, Invisible Touch has some really great tracks on it. We Can't Dance has a few good songs, but most of it is really boring 

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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: October 21 2013 at 08:59
Originally posted by catfood03 catfood03 wrote:

Actually I like the self-titled (toy shapes) album better than either of those two.

Oh, absolutely!


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 21 2013 at 09:18
Hmmm............I suppose Invisible Touch, but I really don't listen to any Genesis beyond Wind & Wuthering.

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 21 2013 at 11:58
I still haven't heard We Can't Dance in it's entirety.  Invisible Touch was kind of the last straw for me with Genesis.  I don't have a great dislike for this era of Genesis, I just have great indifference at this point.

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 21 2013 at 13:23
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:


Originally posted by catfood03 catfood03 wrote:

Actually I like the self-titled (toy shapes) album better than either of those two.
Oh, absolutely!
That goes without saying....


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 21 2013 at 20:31
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:


Originally posted by catfood03 catfood03 wrote:

Actually I like the self-titled (toy shapes) album better than either of those two.
Oh, absolutely!


And a huge ditto from moi on that.

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Posted By: iamathousandapples
Date Posted: October 22 2013 at 21:46
We Can't Dance for sure - Better songs, better production(relatively, Invisible Touch reeks of 80s in a bad way) , and just overall better. Also someone gives back Tony Banks his good keyboard sounds and not the default casio tones LOL.

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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: October 22 2013 at 22:05
Now if Who Dunnit was in this poll I think my head would explode...

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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: October 22 2013 at 22:10
Who Dunnit isn't an album

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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: October 22 2013 at 22:15
I was referring to songs but hey ho...

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