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Topic: Fragile vs Relayer
Posted By: criticdrummer94
Subject: Fragile vs Relayer
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 20:47
My two favorite Yes albums.Smile

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Posted By: Run Home Slow
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 20:51
i Prefer Relayer, but since you put the choice, i've chosen both  :-)

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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 20:54
Ugh I dislike polls that have the "both" and "neither" option. That's just me but these polls are whatevers so I'll just vote.

Relayer.


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Posted By: MoodyRush
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 21:00
Relayer is possibly my favorite album of all time. So that is my obvious pick.

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 21:15
The one with the twenty-one minute song

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Posted By: logwed
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 21:39
^^ Most definitely Relayer.


Posted By: criticdrummer94
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 21:41
Originally posted by Lark the Starless

Ugh I dislike polls that have the "both" and "neither" option. That's just me but these polls are whatevers so I'll just vote.

Relayer.

I have it just for the people who can't decide


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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 22:32
Originally posted by criticdrummer94

Originally posted by Lark the Starless

Ugh I dislike polls that have the "both" and "neither" option. That's just me but these polls are whatevers so I'll just vote.

Relayer.

I have it just for the people who can't decide

Thank you for that. Big smileVoted both as it depends on my mood---as both are Yes's two avant-garde masterpieces.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 22:43
Relayer

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Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 22:49
   Relayer's structure is more mature , and i still love it more since the first day i've bought it from HMV ! 

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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 23:09
Originally posted by criticdrummer94

Originally posted by Lark the Starless

Ugh I dislike polls that have the "both" and "neither" option. That's just me but these polls are whatevers so I'll just vote.

Relayer.

I have it just for the people who can't decide


Those who can't decide should not vote then. Cool


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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 23:10
Fragile is a timeless classic. Relayer, though very good, is a little "of the time", you know?

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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 23:11
Originally posted by Lark the Starless

Originally posted by criticdrummer94

Originally posted by Lark the Starless

Ugh I dislike polls that have the "both" and "neither" option. That's just me but these polls are whatevers so I'll just vote.

Relayer.

I have it just for the people who can't decide


Those who can't decide should not vote then. Cool
Then it really doesn't make a difference, you can just ignore those options Cool


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Posted By: Jeanette
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 23:30
Relayer


Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 23:58
For me, Fragile is more memorable. It gets my vote.  

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 01:22
I'm surprised that Fragile is not winning. 

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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 01:33
yeah I'd be sure Fragile would be winning by a landslide. If I have to choose, it's definitely Relayer, though Fragile's not bad, it's flawed.

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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 02:29
Fragile.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 02:31
Both albums belong imho in the lower 5-star range. I cannot make a choice, so I choose the "Both"-option.

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Posted By: awaken77
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 03:11
Fragile is kind of "uneven" album. Half of the album is 3 excellent classic tracks, other half is individual effort of band members, sort of "experiment" and not very inspiring.
Relayer is more solid in terms of consistency


Posted By: purplesnake
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 03:52
I wish I had 100 posts to vote, but anyway, who needs a vote? My avatar says it all.. :D


Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 04:17
Yes may I add that I think this is by far and out Alan White's best performance as Yes drummer. I mean his stuff on TFTO was close to abysmal, and nothing made later by these guys would match the utter rhythmic genius that was Squire and White on this album. I still don't understand how for just one album he sounded so damn great, and then well.... the rest's OK.


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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 04:31
Fragile. My first album, which I bought after hearing South Side Of The Sky (my first Yes song) from the radio.
Relayer is 5 star album too, a masterpiece.


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 04:45
Originally posted by Lark the Starless

Originally posted by criticdrummer94

Originally posted by Lark the Starless

Ugh I dislike polls that have the "both" and "neither" option. That's just me but these polls are whatevers so I'll just vote.

Relayer.

I have it just for the people who can't decide


Those who can't decide should not vote then. Cool


I agree.

And even though it's a difficult choice, I vote: for Relayer.


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Posted By: frankbostick
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 10:01
Absolutely Fragile!!!


Posted By: dave-the-rave
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 10:20
Fragile, even though I probably listen to Gates of Delirium more than I listen to anything on Fragile. South Side of the Sky, with the piano and "da, da, da" in the middle, Heart of the Sunrise, with Jon's amazing "Sharp... Distance," and Roundabout is almost like all of Yes in one 7 minute song. Pretty damn good, if you can put aside how overplayed it is. Plus, Long Distance Runaround and the Fish. Come on... how often do you play Sound Chaser and To Be Over?


Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 10:32
Fragile is the better choice, although as has already been noted it is a bit uneven.  Both pale in comparison with The Yes Album, CTTE and Going for the One.

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Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 10:52
Fragile is great, but Relayer is something really special. 

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 10:55
Originally posted by dedokras

Fragile is great, but Relayer is something really special. 


Pretty much this - although Id take The Yes Album over anyone of these.


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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 11:04
Relayer.

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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 16:10
This is not on subject but go to YouTube and look up Stephen Prutsman and Sound Chaser---and if you never heard it--check it out--it is amazing iMO and shows how important some of Yes music is---Clap


Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 16:16
Relayer for me. 


Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 16:47
Relayer has 10 minutes of junk time


Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 17:35
I remember wayyy back when I did this poll it was very close. Looks like it is now too. Anyways, my two favourite Yes albums. Gotta be Relayer though.

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Posted By: Starhammer
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 17:38
Originally posted by dr prog

Relayer has 10 minutes of junk time


that ^ And so, Fragile it is.


Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 21:03
Originally posted by Phenomenoumenon

Originally posted by dr prog

Relayer has 10 minutes of junk time


that ^ And so, Fragile it is.
 
Big smile
 
Soundchaser is cool for the first 5 minutes, but after that it starts sounding a bit  annoying and repetitive. Similar with gates, love the first 5 minutes. To be over is the best song overall, good all the way through. The other 2 are strong 5 minute songs each with album filler added on. Would have been cool if they had another composition to add to the album instead of all that experimenting(album filling).


Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 23:03
I like Fragile as a whole better but Gates pretty much destroys most of everything on Fragile except for Heart Of The Sunrise so I guess I'll go with option 3.

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Posted By: gents
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 05:12

I need to post replies so I can finally vote one day for real

Relayer is more consistent and complex which I like so.....



Posted By: FunkyHomoSapien
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 09:02
got to be Fragile surely


Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 12:27
Gates of Delirium, nuff said.

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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 17:39
Fragile

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Posted By: Ruby900
Date Posted: September 04 2011 at 01:55
Both awesome albums, but Relayer demonstrates the creative high of Yes.

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 05 2011 at 22:49
Gates of Delirium is among the best Yes ever did, but I don't really care for the rest of that album; To be Over is somewhat beautiful, but a bit too long for me (I like much better the shorter instrumental versions Howe has played), and Sound Chaser is just awful for me. On the other hand, Fragile is just about "almost" perfect. Even the solo spots, well, Howe's solo song is really nice, Squire's "Fish" is really very good, and for me it's just part of "Long distance runaround"; Anderson's part I actually like too, and sounds great as an introduction to "South Side of the Sky"; Wakeman's "Cans and Brahms" I don't really care about, but it's short enough and doesn't really bother me (I once read that "Catherine of Aragorn" was initially inteded to be his solo spot, and if that would have happened, then this album would have been just perfect); and Bruford's song is indeed pretty un-enjoyable for me, but it's barely half a minute, so, who cares. As for the full band songs, they are all perfectly great. So Fragile for me, the only album from Yes I may like better than this is CttE.


Posted By: TopographicTales
Date Posted: September 05 2011 at 23:03
Relayer for me.


Posted By: Nash
Date Posted: September 06 2011 at 01:03
relayer is a better album in my opinion, but..i have an special sympathy for Fragile, i cant explain it

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Posted By: purplesnake
Date Posted: September 06 2011 at 01:29
Originally posted by dave-the-rave

Fragile, even though I probably listen to Gates of Delirium more than I listen to anything on Fragile. South Side of the Sky, with the piano and "da, da, da" in the middle, Heart of the Sunrise, with Jon's amazing "Sharp... Distance," and Roundabout is almost like all of Yes in one 7 minute song. Pretty damn good, if you can put aside how overplayed it is. Plus, Long Distance Runaround and the Fish. Come on... how often do you play Sound Chaser and To Be Over?


What are you talking about! Sound Chaser and To Be Over are amazing, IMO they are probably the two most under-appreciated Yes songs... in addition to Dreamtime (from Magnification)


Posted By: Kirillov
Date Posted: September 06 2011 at 01:58
Definitely Relayer for me


Posted By: Hans il mercante
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 13:13
My vote goes for Relayer, I remember the first time I heard Relayer on vinyl, those intricate musical parts, it was really a war of sounds, you can sence the thrill and the despair during the breathtaking gates of delirium, to land of the most calming and soaring notes from Soon, I've never experienced something like it before.
Fragile has it's moments too, but the visual experience of Gates it's so strong, so powerful, when you think they can't go any further, they do, hard to overcome that!


Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 13:24
Fragile is better in my books....  Relayer is still awesome though

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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 15:10
Originally posted by Hans il mercante

My vote goes for Relayer, I remember the first time I heard Relayer on vinyl, those intricate musical parts, it was really a war of sounds, you can sence the thrill and the despair during the breathtaking gates of delirium, to land of the most calming and soaring notes from Soon, I've never experienced something like it before.
Fragile has it's moments too, but the visual experience of Gates it's so strong, so powerful, when you think they can't go any further, they do, hard to overcome that!

I had the same experience with Relayer----it is so mind blowing it is almost too much to take---


Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 13:51
Agreed!

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Posted By: fuyuakiworld
Date Posted: December 11 2011 at 16:57
UGH! SO f**kING HARD! I guess... both, maybe?


Posted By: resurrection
Date Posted: December 12 2011 at 09:01
Fragile was (IMO) the furthest Yes travelled. Everything after that was downhill or at best, sideways.


Posted By: Redug
Date Posted: December 12 2011 at 11:39
Hm, hard choice, both are excellent albums, I think I've listened to Fragile slightly more than Relayer so I'll give it the vote.


Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: December 12 2011 at 11:46
Fragile have allways been my favorite Yes album

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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: December 12 2011 at 11:57
Relayer. Fragile has some really great songs, but I find Relayer to be more consistent. And I cant forgive Wakeman for what he did with Brahms.

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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: December 12 2011 at 11:59
Fragile.  Because it's Italian.  Tongue

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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: December 12 2011 at 12:45
Both. Cool
 
 


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