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Caravan of Camels?

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Topic: Caravan of Camels?
Posted By: Gandalff
Subject: Caravan of Camels?
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 04:18

Traditional caravan used to be composed of various number of camels, but the same rule isn´t valid in vice versa.Wink

I´m somewhat astonished by general success of the band Caravan here, one their album is even comparable, judging by PA ratings, with one of several pillars of Symphonic Prog - Camel. Therefore I´ve decided to create this poll to reveal your real preferences and opinions to both albums or bands generally.

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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!




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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 04:34
Both, Masterpieces!Heart


Posted By: friso
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 05:47
Land of Grey and Pink is a big three star album for me, but the Snow Goose is much better and varied in my opinion.


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 06:26
Grey and Pink by a large margin. Different story though if it's Camel's debut,Mirage or Moonmadness.

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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 07:56
Had to give this one a serious thought and after cup of coffee and cigarette I voted The Snow Goose.

Lately I've been listening Camel a lot, especially A Nod And A Wink has popped up as a real good album.


Posted By: gents
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 08:09

Can't vote but still...

Don't like snow goose too much it just don't fit right. It would be different with mirage or moonmadness.

caravan is just fantastic.



Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 08:40
Caravan! But it was a difficult choice.

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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 08:43
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Grey and Pink by a large margin. Different story though if it's Camel's debut,Mirage or Moonmadness.


Posted By: kawkaw123
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 08:47
I love both bands but, i went with caravan. mostly because of the chill factor



Posted By: Froth
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 08:52
Camel made some great music, and Andy Latimer is a musician of great sincerity, but they were notheing on caravan, and The Land of Grey and Pink is much more interesting than the Snow Goose. that said i think Waterloo Lily is my favorite.


Posted By: FunkyHomoSapien
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 09:04
Caravan


Posted By: Armingal
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 11:36
Can't vote, but much as I like The Snow Goose, it doesn't remotely compare to In The Land Of Grey And Pink. Caravan by a distance.


Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 12:03
It takes a lot of Camels to make one Caravan for me. 
 
So Pink and Grey by a few humps


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Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 12:13

Camel over Caravan.

Land Of Grey And Pink over Moonmadness (although they are both great)


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 12:23
Preferring Camel in general, I vote for Caravan nevertheless.

I love Grey and Pink, and although I like Snowgoose, I don't like it as much as some of the other Camel classic albums.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 12:43
Caravan no doubt. 
I know Snowgoose has its followers - and those who like that album, doesn´t just like it, no they love it with a passion like it was their own offspring, and that is very comforting to me. 


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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 13:41
Caravan by far.

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 14:28
Caravan's album is very good, but Camel's is one of rare beauty and emotion.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 15:00
However much I love In the Land of Grey and Pink, I have to give my vote to The Snow Goose, which is in my top 10 of the 70's.


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Posted By: Takeshi Kovacs
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 15:12
I love both and voted accordingly.

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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 15:15
The Snow Goose is without any doubt the best prog album, nay, suite of music ever made. I've just listened to it in the car and it moves me every time; I could never get tired of it.
 
The crap that people spawn about it being "too soft" or "not energetic enough" show that they simply haven't a clue that it's a musical interpretation of a short story, a tender love story set in 1940. It interprets the characters and storyline brilliantly without any lyrics; in that sense it's even better than Peter and the Wolf, which does the same but nowhere near as well. Hardness and energy would simply not be in keeping with the story.
 
I like ITLOGAP very much - by far Caravan's best album and almost rates 5* for me - but it's nowhere near as good as the emotional tour de force that Camel created.


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 18:41
Originally posted by jean-marie jean-marie wrote:

Both, Masterpieces!Heart
Totally agreed


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Posted By: Hober Mallow
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 19:55
in the land... for me 

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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 21:13
I love Both


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 04 2011 at 00:58
As good as In The Land... is, the Snow Goose.

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Posted By: Ruby900
Date Posted: September 04 2011 at 01:53
Caravan - easy for me, as the Snow Goose seems very cheesy to me......

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Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: September 04 2011 at 05:17
   for this particular album , the land is far better than the snow , but as a band , Camel  are much appreciated than Caravan  but not by far !  However , Camel discography in 38 years contain at least 5 albums better than the Land  !

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Posted By: zbida
Date Posted: September 05 2011 at 08:29
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by jean-marie jean-marie wrote:

Both, Masterpieces!Heart
Totally agreed


It's true. There's nothing to be done.


Posted By: Kirillov
Date Posted: September 05 2011 at 17:31
I think 'Snow Goose' is the better of the two, but Caravan's 'If I Could Do It All Over Again...' is better than anything else that the two bands ever did.


Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: September 06 2011 at 12:51

Camel.



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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: September 06 2011 at 13:02
As it´s evident from my opening post, my fondness will be always for Camel just in this case.

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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!



Posted By: tiv
Date Posted: September 16 2011 at 04:14
Remember hearing extracts of Snow Goose on the radio back then and going out to buy it and It's the record that got me into Camel.

Snow Goose and early (pre- Breathless) Camel for me.


Posted By: GoldenGod2112
Date Posted: September 16 2011 at 13:16
Well if the Camel album was Mirage I'd vote for it.
But caravan has my vote this time.
 


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Posted By: motoprog
Date Posted: September 18 2011 at 12:20
In the Land of Grey And Pink


Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: September 18 2011 at 12:26
My favourite albums by both bands! Grey and Pink for me, but both are soft prog masterpieces

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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 15:54
Caramel Big smile

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Posted By: patday34
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 19:04
Nine feet underground is an epic song.  My vote goes to Caravan


Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 01:47
The Snow goose has flown it seems. My choice though.


Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 01:58
I used to like both bands equally but now i find Camel to be too gentle and predictable. On another hand, i find that the Caravan "trilogy"
(If i could, In the land, Waterlolily) stands the test of time.
But Caravan did some too-gentle stuff after as well.

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Posted By: criticdrummer94
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:43
In the Land of Grey and Pink is fantastic. Couldn't get into The Snow Goose that much

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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 11:16
Caravan, Nine feet underground is one of my all time favorit epix.

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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 14:03
What about that clip?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7zcOlnEoRo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7zcOlnEoRo

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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 19:27
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

What about that clip?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7zcOlnEoRo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7zcOlnEoRo
Woooow! great! Big smile


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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 02:25
Winterwine is one of the beautifulest song ever, each time i listen to it i feel Broken Heart

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 02:35
Even better than the epic 9 Feet Underground, IMO

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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 03:24
Sure Smile

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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 04:06
It smokes Camel

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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 05:17
I kinda have a serious hate-canlistentobutdon'treallyeverlistentoanyway relationship with Camel. Caravan I like but am not a fan of G&P. So no vote!!!

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 05:30
Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

I kinda have a serious hate-canlistentobutdon'treallyeverlistentoanyway relationship with Camel. Caravan I like but am not a fan of G&P. So no vote!!!
Of course, with that nickname I couldn't expect anything different LOL


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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 05:45
Definitely Caravan. Their charm eluded me at first, but they've gradually become more and more convincing.

The charm of Camel still eludes me though.  


Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 06:13
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

I kinda have a serious hate-canlistentobutdon'treallyeverlistentoanyway relationship with Camel. Caravan I like but am not a fan of G&P. So no vote!!!
Of course, with that nickname I couldn't expect anything different LOL

I must live up to my title!


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Posted By: MonsterMagnet
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 11:11
Caravan


Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 11:59
Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

The charm of Camel still eludes me though.  
Thats caus they dont have any charm, so you can stop looking Wink


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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 12:27
Have to go with Caravan on this one.

Also, i have to disagree with the post above me.

Camel have some great charm.
Latimer is constantly being compared to Gilmour - so if you're a fan of that style of playing then thats always a plus.
The s/t debut and Mirage are both great albums.




Posted By: beatle960
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 17:20
I love caravan, but I have to go with camel.  Snow goose is one of my early memories, and I have been listening to this album since i was 5



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