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Topic: Karn Evil 9 - Emerson Lake And Palmer
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Subject: Karn Evil 9 - Emerson Lake And Palmer
Date Posted: September 06 2011 at 21:46
Third Impression for me because in my opinion its the most well composed out of all the Impressions and the one melody in the middle of the song is so Majestic and Beautiful - it reminds me of Genesis TongueApprove. Also I prefer the lyrics in the Third Impression the most out of all of them.

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Posted By: Ruby900
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 00:28
Easily third - great stuff!

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Posted By: The Wrinkler
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 00:51
Second Impression! I love that ELP symphonic jazz sound. Cool


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 01:39
3rd Impression for reasons stated in the OP.
 
2nd Impression is a puzzle to me as it seems to be two entirely different peices (part 1 and part 2??)
 
Karn Evil 9 is really 5 peices to me.
1st Impression has an extended introduction to a future world with no hope until we are taken to the hedonistic escape from it all (The 'Carnival').
On the original release they couldn't sqeeze all of Karn Evil 9 onto side two so 1st Impression Part One was invented and side two began with ''Welcome Back My Friends etc''. It was very artifical but made some sort of sense.Predictably in the late seventies ELP started shows with ''Welcome Back My Friends''.


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 03:26
The 3rd Impression, but the 1st comes close.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 03:41
Originally posted by The Wrinkler The Wrinkler wrote:

Second Impression! I love that ELP symphonic jazz sound. Cool
 
 
Ditto for me.


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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 06:10

Surprised that people like the Star-trek sounding 3rd Impression.

My favourite is the 2nd..... which is insanely virtuosic.



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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 06:21
Third Impression for sure. It's the strongest section of the entire album IMHO.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 07:05
The second for not being like the first or third, which I like as well.

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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 07:57
I've always loved 1:1 the most but have to say that lately it's the 3rd Impression that's been my favourite.
 
Over the years 1:1 has to get the vote.


Posted By: elpprogster
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 09:58
3rd Impression for me


Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 10:02
Second Impression for me as well.


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 11:48
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by The Wrinkler The Wrinkler wrote:

Second Impression! I love that ELP symphonic jazz sound. Cool
 
 
Ditto for me.


Double Ditto !! The second is by far the best in composition and performance. The steel drum solo, the dynamics, the emotion of the bass and piano part after the steel drums which kinda reminds me of Trilogy and finally the last minute and a bit which when heard on the WBMFTTSTNE album absolutely kicks @ss Headbanger


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 15:49
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

Surprised that people like the Star-trek sounding 3rd Impression.

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I am a little surprised as well. I thought it was just me that liked it!


Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 15:53
First impression, from welcome back my friends

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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 03:49
I love all of it but if forced to choose would probably opt for the acoustic 2nd Impression as it gives us a glimpse into Keith's abiding inspirations 'up close and in the raw' i.e. jazz, classical, boogie woogie, latin (many of Emerson's left hand ostinatos have a subtle South American feel) horror movie suspense and slapstick silent movie kitsch. Shorn of the habitual Hammond and Moog, ELP's music displayed a tongue in cheek lightness and shade that their more bombastic creations sometimes could be accused of lacking. (Subtlety was never an abiding concern in their electronic output)

Funny thing is, the 2nd Impression is fuelled almost entirely from melodic themes and fragments from the subsequent 3rd Impression (which makes me think it was composed after the final part of the suite?)

BTW the original intention hatched by Keith and Carl was to create an acoustic adaptation of Ginastera's Tocatta (piano, bass and drums) but this was shelved. I'd love to have heard a work in progress version of that critter (as much as I adore the electronic incarnation)


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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 10:55
This is TOO hard ! 

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Posted By: criticdrummer94
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 14:42
Part 1 of the First Impression, always sucks me in everytime

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 09 2011 at 01:50
This is one of the most surprising polls I've ever seen. I thought 1st Impression Part 2 would walk away with the poll yet has managed one measly vote. Quite ironic that after 1974 this is the only section of KE9 that ELP played liveConfused


Posted By: MonsterMagnet
Date Posted: September 09 2011 at 12:49
The two last parts are among the most beautiful masterpieces of Emerson, Lake & Palmer


Posted By: Kirillov
Date Posted: September 09 2011 at 14:25
First Impression Part 1 for me


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: September 09 2011 at 15:13
Third impression, because the music has such a wonderful, powerful conclusion.

Absolutely amazing story telling music.


Posted By: PinkfloydgenesisELP
Date Posted: September 11 2011 at 08:32
First Impression part 2 for me it has the greatest keyboard playing in rock history (no overeactions here) but realistically it all just sounds magical as a suite


Posted By: JeanFrame
Date Posted: September 11 2011 at 14:39
First impression part one for me, though I can't agree that any of the parts contain 'the greatest keyboard playing in rock history' - fine playing indeed, but let's not get silly about this.


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 12 2011 at 09:28
Funny how First Impression Part 1 is so far ahead of Part 2.  Airplay will do that, lol.

I voted for 1st Impression Part 1, closely followed by 2nd Impression.  Never liked the 3rd Impression much.


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 12 2011 at 10:11
Originally posted by JeanFrame JeanFrame wrote:

First impression part one for me, though I can't agree that any of the parts contain 'the greatest keyboard playing in rock history' - fine playing indeed, but let's not get silly about this.
To be fair he made it clear that its just his opinion
For me it was on the live version of Tarkus
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Posted By: Proggy Pogo
Date Posted: September 13 2011 at 06:50
First Impression for me - I've never heard anything like it!!

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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: September 13 2011 at 12:32
Interesting that 1st Imp pt 2 is getting no love. 


Posted By: GoldenGod2112
Date Posted: September 14 2011 at 01:53
Obviously it's either part 1 or 3.
But I'd have to go with 1. I just love it a tiny bit more.


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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: December 17 2011 at 22:06
3rd impression IMO is the best, but 1st pt 1 is close,
the rest of the song is alright, i guess?


Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: December 18 2011 at 08:36
Originally posted by MonsterMagnet MonsterMagnet wrote:

The two last parts are among the most beautiful masterpieces of Emerson, Lake & Palmer
 
 
Agree here. Third Impression is one of my favorite songs. Approve
 
Brilliant avatar, btw. LOL
 
 


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Posted By: MonsterMagnet
Date Posted: December 19 2011 at 10:04
Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

Originally posted by MonsterMagnet MonsterMagnet wrote:

The two last parts are among the most beautiful masterpieces of Emerson, Lake & Palmer
 
 
Agree here. Third Impression is one of my favorite songs. Approve
 
Brilliant avatar, btw. LOL

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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: December 19 2011 at 10:22
First Impression, Part 1.  Part 2 has been so overplayed on classic rock radio as to be almost unlistenable now.  Impressions 2 and 3 are also awesome, but my fav has always been 1-1.

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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: May 08 2012 at 11:02
Originally posted by criticdrummer94 criticdrummer94 wrote:

Part 1 of the First Impression, always sucks me in everytime


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 08 2012 at 12:19
HI,
 
I like the whole piece as a Symphony, and I really have no favorites as to which part ... I can't even tell you which part of Beethoven's 9th is my favorite! Or which part of TFTO is my favorite ... I just love the whole piece, and I don't really care, or think that your left arm is prettier than your right arm, or that your left brea__ is prettier than the right one!
 
It's the same person, entity and totality ...
 
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Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: May 08 2012 at 13:36
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by The Wrinkler The Wrinkler wrote:

Second Impression! I love that ELP symphonic jazz sound.†Cool




Ditto for me.


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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 08 2012 at 18:53
Don't really like that piece so much. Don't remember it enough to choose one of the 4. Perhaps 3rd impression, but don't really remember it well enough.


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 08 2012 at 18:55
First and fourth options I like about the same...


Posted By: Mr. Maestro
Date Posted: May 08 2012 at 22:26
Tough choice, but I'm going with Third Impression.

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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 21:54
I think the pole would be better if there was a 5th choice for the entire 1st Impression or just 3 choices (1 for each impression ofcourse)

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Posted By: superQuizzie
Date Posted: May 13 2018 at 20:56
1st Impression Part 2. It combines the fun carnival section from part 2, and the intro is super captivating, and Carl's drums are really groovy around 4:40 in. The bit inbetween the intro and the carnival is wonderful and I just love it. Greg's singing and alternate guitar solo towards the end of it is so unique and cannot be missed. I love it so much and it's got some of the best variety of the song. 

However, I like to consider it as a whole song that should be listened to sequentially. There's a video on youtube that combines it all together. All 30 glorious minutes!


Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: May 14 2018 at 00:03
1st Impression - Part 1 has always been my favourite - but it always seems to lose out to Part 2 because of the 'Welcome Back..." vocal introduction on rock radio. Before CDs, I did my best on a cassette to join the two parts so they flowed seamlessly together - getting the volume between the two parts the same was tricky as I recall. Part 1 is instrumentally stronger with some great variation and depth within it - but the whole thing requires a continuous play, despite the Impressions having their own identity.

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 14 2018 at 16:48
1st Impression, Part 1. It's got everything from Part 2 plus more. And more is better.

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Posted By: Walkscore
Date Posted: May 14 2018 at 18:14
Well, yes the first part of the 1st impression is great, but the 2nd impression is the best music (and the best playing)!



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