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Topic: Mike Portnoy has sued Dream Theater
Posted By: rdtprog
Subject: Mike Portnoy has sued Dream Theater
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 15:29
When i first saw this, i thought it was a joke, it's not from a valuable source, it's a PDF

If it's a joke, it looks real... And we can all know where the guys lives.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/04/28/Portnoy.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/04/28/Portnoy.pdf



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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 15:44
 
Originally posted by rdtprog rdtprog wrote:

When i first saw this, i thought it was a joke, it's not from a valuable source, it's a PDF

http://www.courthousenews.com/aboutus.html" rel="nofollow - It's not a valuable source? And what does the file format matter?
Quote And we can all know where the guys lives.

That's pretty much a matter of public record anyway.

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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 15:47
You can't trust those PDFs, man


Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 15:51
Looks like DT is the next Pink Floyd Ermm

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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 16:08
Oh geez. I hope this isn't true.

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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 16:11

It looks like the DT gang is finally up to something entertaining Tongue






Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 16:15
It certainly would be A Dramatic Turn of Events..........As long as any cease and desist order happens after next Tuesday Sept 27th show in Seattle!
I'm good.....
 
LOL


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 16:17
Is this really viable information? If so - what a damn shame.
Pink Floyd weren´t the only ones as I recall. The Smiths did something similar as well.


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 16:20
Yes went through this as well.  Hence, ABWH.

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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 16:27
The document was dated April 27th.  I wonder if the case was already heard, or if maybe it was settled out of court before the hearing.

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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 16:44
This was posted today:  http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163477" rel="nofollow - http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163477

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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 17:03
Sounds like it is still an active case then.  I'm sort of surprised that a "cease and desist" order wasn't issued prior to the release of the new album, since the lawsuit was already in existence.
It is a shame that it has come to this, but music IS a business.   At least at their level.

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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 17:03
Oh well... Dream Theater hasn't been the same since Charlie Dominici left.

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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 17:05
A Dramatic Turn of Event$

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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 17:16
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

Oh well... Dream Theater hasn't been the same since Charlie Dominici left.

LOL I'll say Tongue


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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 17:31
Lol Portnoy.

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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 17:33
Oh well, Dream Theater hasn't been the same since A Farewell to Kings...oh wait.

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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 18:25
I'm going to listen to  AFtK now!

Tongue


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 18:26
Originally posted by Alitare Alitare wrote:

Oh well, Dream Theater hasn't been the same since A Farewell to Kings...oh wait.
They pretty much went downhill with Abacab.


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 19:29
lawsuits almoust destroyd Procol Harum, go figure, and it all started by a song made in 66 and it lasted 40 years, 

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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 19:30
Roger Waters called and wants his bitterness back.


Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 19:54
Came home. Was surprised this wasn't posted:
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163477" rel="nofollow - http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163477

Quote According to  http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/04/28/New_Complaints.htm" rel="nofollow - Courthouse News Service , ex-DREAM THEATER drummerMike Portnoy filed a lawsuit against his former bandmates in April claiming that they "wrongfully excluded" him from the group and are "wrongfully using the name of the band in connection with [their] recording of an album without the participation or consent of [Portnoy]." In addition, the drummer's complaint, which was filed on April 27, alleges that the defendants — John Petrucci (guitar), John Myung (bass), Jordan Rudess (keyboards), James LaBrie (vocals), along with associated companies Ytse Jam, Inc. and Infinity Tours, Inc. — "are wrongfully using the name of the band in connection with the promotion of live performances by the individual defendants, without the participation or consent of [Portnoy]."

In an August 2011 interview with the Greek edition of Rock Hardmagazine, Portnoy stated about his departure from DREAM THEATER, "I didn't make the decision to leave DREAM THEATER before [hooking up with] AVENGED SEVENFOLD [as their touring drummer], but I knew that something had to change in the DREAM THEATER camp. It's unfortunate that it was me that had to change, because I never wanted to leave the band — it was never my intention; I never wanted the split. I just merely thought that the band really could use a break, because I think the romance was really dying — backstage and between [the members] personally. 25 years without a break is a very, very, very long time and sometimes these relationships need a break from each other to rekindle the flame. So that's all I suggested. And even before I [went on the road] with AVENGED SEVENFOLD, I remember touring with [the progressive rock project] TRANSATLANTIC at the beginning of 2010 and already knowing that something was wrong in the DREAM THEATER world and that I really needed a break from the guys and the whole DREAM THEATER machine. I knew something was brewing and I knew that I was unhappy, and as has been well documented elsewhere, I merely just wanted a break. But unfortunately, those guys [the rest of DREAM THEATER] didn't see it that way and didn't respect my request for time off. It's unfortunate [that it turned out that way]."

Portnoy, who co-founded DREAM THEATER more than 20 years ago, announced his departure from the band in September 2010 while on tour with AVENGED SEVENFOLD. He has since been replaced by Mike Mangini (ANNIHILATOREXTREMEJAMES LABRIESTEVE VAI).

Portnoy played on AVENGED SEVENFOLD's latest album, "Nightmare", following the death of that band's drummer, Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan, and toured with them for the entire second half of 2010.

DREAM THEATER's new album, "A Dramatic Turn Of Events", was released on September 13 via Roadrunner Records

For a copy of the court papers:
http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/04/28/Portnoy.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/04/28/Portnoy.pdf

What little respect I had for the man is now gone. Mike QUIT the band, and is now suing them for wrongfully excluding them?


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 20:01
so lulzy


Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 20:37
So anyways, what to say. I've lost all respect for MP. He's filing a lawsuit for wrongful exclusion when he quit! Shameful...


Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 20:44
What a prick.




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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 20:46
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Sounds like it is still an active case then.  I'm sort of surprised that a "cease and desist" order wasn't issued prior to the release of the new album, since the lawsuit was already in existence.
It is a shame that it has come to this, but music IS a business.   At least at their level.
If he actually tried to do that (and we don't know what he did), the judge probably thought his case wasn't strong enough to block the release. I mean, blocking the release isn't really relevant to his case.
Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

This was posted today:  http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163477" rel="nofollow - http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163477
Yeah, but that's just citing the document in the OP, that doesn't really mean anything.


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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 20:46
I think he needs money after that failure of a project Adrenaline 
Wacko


Posted By: The T
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 20:49
Fail Portnoy

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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 20:52
Well here's some confirmation, but I'm too lazy to screencap it on this computer so I hope he doesn't delete the tweets later:
http://twitter.com/#!/MikePortnoy/status/115907302732726272" rel="nofollow - http://twitter.com/#!/MikePortnoy/status/115907302732726272
http://twitter.com/#!/MikePortnoy/status/115907785148997632" rel="nofollow - http://twitter.com/#!/MikePortnoy/status/115907785148997632
http://twitter.com/#!/MikePortnoy/status/115945005780180993" rel="nofollow - http://twitter.com/#!/MikePortnoy/status/115945005780180993
lol, whatever you say Mike.


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 20:57
Tweet my ass and balls.

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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 21:01
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Tweet my ass and balls.

That expression doesn't give the impression of big balls.

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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 21:07
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

What a prick.



Pretty much.

He's lost a lot of respect from me.


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 21:11
What did he expect the other guys to do, curl up into a ball and die?

Dream Theater is among the most well-known, popular, and I would guess lucrative prog/metal acts in the world - the other members would be foolish not to want to continue.


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 21:21
Certainly for all those fans that wished or thought Portnoy would eventually return to Dream Theater.......you can bury those thoughts a mile deep......It ain't never gonna happen now.
 
All posts releated to this matter on the DT website boards have been locked Nuke
 
The new Dream Theater chapter has begun.....


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 21:27
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Certainly for all those fans that wished or thought Portnoy would eventually return to Dream Theater.......you can bury those thoughts a mile deep......It ain't never gonna happen now.
 
The new Dream Theater chapter has begun......


Or the first chapter of LaBrie, Mangini, Rudess, Petrucci, & Myung.


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 21:30
^ Yup........

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 21:34
Or I could convince them all to join Epignosis.  Clown

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 21:38
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Or I could convince them all to join Epignosis.  Clown
 
I heard Portnoy is looking for a new gig.....LOL


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 21:39
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Or I could convince them all to join Epignosis.  Clown
 
I heard Portnoy is looking for a new gig.....LOL


Oh no...he'd leave after 10 albums and sue me for using the name...


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 21:39
A Labrie/Tasha duet?  LOL


Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 21:41
First impression:  HOLY S**T. This is crazy!

Second impression:  He will get nothing but publicity out of this


Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 21:41
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Lol Portnoy.


This.

And didn't the guy want a break so the band let him have it? Ermm Sounds to me like Portnoy's kind of a whiner.


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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 21:42
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Certainly for all those fans that wished or thought Portnoy would eventually return to Dream Theater.......you can bury those thoughts a mile deep......It ain't never gonna happen now.
 
The new Dream Theater chapter has begun......


Or the first chapter of LaBrie, Mangini, Rudess, Petrucci, & Myung.


Which, if they remain as concise as they did in A Dramatic Turn Of Events, is a good thing.


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 21:51
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

A Labrie/Tasha duet?  LOL


Who has the high parts again?


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 21:57
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Or I could convince them all to join Epignosis.  Clown
 
I heard Portnoy is looking for a new gig.....LOL


Oh no...he'd leave after 10 albums and sue me for using the name...
 
You know that's a good point.......you are a smart man....Smile


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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 23:02
Oh. My. Gah.

Really Portnoy?


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Posted By: ULikeThatDontYa
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 23:02
Wow....that's sad.


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 23:14
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Oh. My. Gah.

Really Portnoy?
Yea its a done deal......he has even Tweeted on this......its over.

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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 23:26
IDK if it's over, but I doubt that he would ever join DT ever again and even if he does, I doubt LaBrie would continue to be in the band; maybe Myung would quit too.

I can see either Petrucci or Rudess or both collaborating with him in the future, maybe in LTE, but not in the near future, at least.

He's almost the New Yorker Roger Waters now (Roger wanted to take everybody off the band, after all, I suppose there's a difference LOL). As Henry has brilliantly put in the past: "nice career move, dick".

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Posted By: prog4ever
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 23:34
 Mike now you've  lost all your credibility and the few fans  that still were on your side . It 's sad to see that you can't move on .


Posted By: OzzProg
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 23:43
Guys, this is all 2deep4u.

He is like totally doing a like political statement or whatever.


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 00:14
It's quite amazing that none here has sided with Portnoy yet. It seems PA is full of reasonable people after all. Or maybe we are all idiots who can't understand one man's long road through suffering and pain.

Worst thing is, when in 25 years Portnoy and DT reunite for one special fundraising-type event, unlike with Waters and Gilmour, nobody will give a damn f**k.

Now where are Charlie Dominici's damn lawyers...

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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 00:37
Eh, I'll continue to support the guy cuz I like his drumming, but, yea, this was silly. I mean, I think they may have been a bit dickish to him, but, wow, way to rise above, Mike.

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Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 00:39
I was asked to leave my secondary school chess club after I didn't turn up for a year. I'm on the phone to my lawyers now....


Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 00:47
Originally posted by Deathrabbit Deathrabbit wrote:

Eh, I'll continue to support the guy cuz I like his drumming, but, yea, this was silly. I mean, I think they may have been a bit dickish to him, but, wow, way to rise above, Mike.

You don't ask a successful, productive band to go on hiatus while you sort things out and tour with Avenged Sevenfold. You don't get pissed when they don't want to. You don't sue your friends and bandmates when you left the band.


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 02:13
  Weymolith resigned as mod from the Mike Portnoy forums because he was so upset. Apparently, he has been the primary moderator there for 10+ years.
Quote can no longer be a party to cleaning up these messes. After working for Mike for peanuts and perks for 11 and a half years, Todays revealing by Blabbermouth is pretty much the final straw. I feel that I have been lied to after doing all that I can to keep this site peaceful, free of the bullsh*t drama and going to bat for MP and defending him to the point where I feel sometimes that I am the most hated person in the Dream Theater community. I can no longer feel that my integrity and morals are not compromised.

Those of you that want or need to get ahold of me, know how to find me. If not, a simple check of Google will provide you with 5 other emails you can use to contact me. I'll check in every now and again, but at this time, my post will probably be removed and my IP address banned."
 -Wey

This was so upsetting that http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/m2710918.aspx" rel="nofollow - Portnoy's wife called him , and now he's back.

Meanwhile, Mike's Facebook page is exploding with hate. This is The Best.


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Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 03:13
If I had a nickel for every time someone sued their old band... 

 


Posted By: scepter
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 06:57
portnoy is arrogant man never liked him never will he spits on fans during dt shows rom what i heard if thats true how disgusting this pig is m shocked neal morse lets this dude on his cds he so arrogant full of himself hope this guy rots with some demons never liked his attitude since day 1 he has ego size of mack truck


Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 09:14
Portnoy's Complaint?

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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 09:15
LOL, he's even gone comparing this to Pink Floyd already.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163433" rel="nofollow - http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163433


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 09:17
Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

Portnoy's Complaint?


LOL, I just read that book (and loved it).

You sayin' he has it small? Shocked


Posted By: Starhammer
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 09:25


This.


Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 10:04
Portnoy is just terrible. This is a foolish thing to do. The other thing I didn't like is on Facebook he liked a bunch of peoples comments saying LaBrie was jealous of him and stuff, then when he was called out he proceeded to whine saying liking them doesn't mean he agrees. And now, Mike blocked someone I know off his Facebook for liking someones comment against MP. LOL


Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 10:23
^How, childish. Really, he should just close his facebook page. It's turning into a circus.

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 11:36
Really..how is this any different than all the other krapp that happens to celebrities. When lawyers get involved, it always turns ugly.....and nothing ever gets resolved.
And really........I give a grain of salt to whatever gets posted on the internet...Facebook, Tweets, forums.......I doubt we ever will know the real story of what was actually said Sept 2010 between the band members.
 
I don't know any of these people, so I could not say that someone is arogant, childish, immature, foolish...so on. Its their business, company, livelyhood, its how they put food on the table.....and it seems to me that when other corporations are involved so they too get worried about their income stream from a band like Dream Theater and push for legal actions.
 
Bahhh........all will be good in about 2 months....if its not already since this was issued in April.


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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 11:41
The band have just released an album with the name Dream Theater on it and are going out on tour as Dream Theater. So I guess that there isn't any current litigation against the band.

Looks like someone's making a fart into a pile of muck...


Posted By: The T
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 11:55
Probably it was all dismissed before it really amounted to anything but it still leaves Portnoy's image as a big pile of fail. 

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Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 12:06
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Really..how is this any different than all the other krapp that happens to celebrities. When lawyers get involved, it always turns ugly.....and nothing ever gets resolved.
And really........I give a grain of salt to whatever gets posted on the internet...Facebook, Tweets, forums.......I doubt we ever will know the real story of what was actually said Sept 2010 between the band members.
 
I don't know any of these people, so I could not say that someone is arogant, childish, immature, foolish...so on. Its their business, company, livelyhood, its how they put food on the table.....and it seems to me that when other corporations are involved so they too get worried about their income stream from a band like Dream Theater and push for legal actions.
 
Bahhh........all will be good in about 2 months....if its not already since this was issued in April.

Clap Most "reasonable" thing anybodies said in this entire thread. 


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 12:14
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

The band have just released an album with the name Dream Theater on it and are going out on tour as Dream Theater. So I guess that there isn't any current litigation against the band.

Looks like someone's making a fart into a pile of muck...
 
Exactly....as long as they show up next week in Seattle...I'm good!! Its gonna be a great show....
 
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 12:20
Quote In a letter to BLABBERMOUTH.NET dated earlier today (Tuesday, September 20) Bienstock wrote, "On or around April 27, 2011, Mr. Portnoy filed a 'Notice With Summons.' This document is not a formal complaint. Further, the document was never served on any of the named defendants, rendering it moot. There is no pending litigation between DREAM THEATER and Mr. Portnoy."



Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 12:57
"I just wanted to take a break." 

That always goes well. 

Tough shiz whiny boy.


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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 13:36
Blabbermouth have taken an awful lot of fans and foes along for a 24 hour roller coaster ride by the looks of it. 

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 13:48
^ Hence the name "Blabbermouth"......... lest we not forget everything on the internet is true.

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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 14:05
He should spend more time with Neal Morse though. Neal is a very nice, mature, God-loving person. It would do Mike some good.

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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 14:09
Some people have expressed concern that the court PDF contains the home addresses of the members of DT. There's not a lot we can do about that, this document is all ove the internet at the moment.


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 14:11
Just saying, we shouldn't have a link to it directly from here. Sure people can search for it themselves; I did. But there are DT haters here. Not that I think anything would happen anyway, but even DTF won't allow a direct link to the PDF file.

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 14:14
^ They have made a lot of albums together and toured a lot, whether any of Neal's beliefs have rub off on Mike I wonder, besides isn't Mike jewish?
Regardless.....I think Neal is much too busy right now to deal with all this online bantering. He is finishing up the mixing on the Live T2 DVD/CD package and another Transatlantic live album.


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 14:17
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Some people have expressed concern that the court PDF contains the home addresses of the members of DT. There's not a lot we can do about that, this document is all ove the internet at the moment.
 
I am no lawyer, but I thought once on a court document its public knowledge anyhow......I mean you can go to the court and sit in on the hearings if you like.
 
And I am sure you can find their home address on the internet somehow....if u felt the need.


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 14:17
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

^ They have made a lot of albums together and toured a lot, whether any of Neal's beliefs have rub off on Mike I wonder, besides isn't Mike jewish?
Regardless.....I think Neal is much too busy right now to deal with all this online bantering. He is finishing up the mixing on the Live T2 DVD/CD package and another Transatlantic live album.


Mike was raised Jewish, but he doesn't practice. It's the same god anyway Wink


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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 14:29
Ouch!Ouch I didn't think that my orginal post would have create such reaction, so quickly. Mike's is getting beating up pretty badly here, i hope he doesn't read too much  this forum., because he is going to sued us all...Wink


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 14:32
Originally posted by rdtprog rdtprog wrote:

Ouch!Ouch I didn't think that my orginal post would have create such reaction, so quickly. Mike's is getting beating up pretty badly here, i hope he doesn't read too much in this forum...Wink


You think this thread is bad, the one at Mike's own forum was horrible, and got taken down after not too long. The thread over at DTF is pretty bad too http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=27998.0" rel="nofollow - http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=27998.0


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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 14:43
The best part is that he asks for damages to be awarded in addition to the injunction. That's just too much bro. 

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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 14:51
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

The best part is that he asks for damages to be awarded in addition to the injunction. That's just too much bro. 


Yes, the damages to his EGO... I don't know how they calculate this kind of damages...


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 15:07
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163514" rel="nofollow - http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163514


There is no pending lawsuit.


Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 15:17
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163514" rel="nofollow - http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163514


There is no pending lawsuit.


Mike is happy that we can all calm down! Why this document went public?


Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 15:20
Originally posted by rdtprog rdtprog wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163514" rel="nofollow - http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163514


There is no pending lawsuit.


Mike is happy that we can all calm down! Why this document went public?


Someone at Blabbermouth that doesn't like MP perhaps? If what I've read is correct, they were the ones who opted to spread this one to the world.


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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 15:39
Originally posted by Mike Portnoy Mike Portnoy wrote:

I did NOT sue them....and second of all, I DESPERATELY tried to discuss matters with them personally to avoid ANYTHING LIKE THIS and yet THEY insisted on only using lawyers...so my lawyers filed those papers (BACK IN APRIL mind you) as that was the position they chose to take...if the band wouldve talked to me, it wouldve NEVER come to that!!! 


Of course, MP can never do anything wrong. It sorta annoys me when he tries to act a victim in every situation.


Posted By: Clepsydra
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 15:42
Slartibartfast

YOU KNOW IT!!! Clap (republicans)


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 16:24
 
Originally posted by Windhawk Windhawk wrote:

Someone at Blabbermouth that doesn't like MP perhaps? If what I've read is correct, they were the ones who opted to spread this one to the world.

That's ridiculous. The document was made public by a third party, and they had just as much information as we did at the time. All they did was summarize the document, it's not their fault that everyone on the internet got out their jump to conclusions mat. Although I'm personally still unsure about the true situation, and why didn't Mike say that there is no pending litigation right away instead of being coy?
 
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

And I am sure you can find their home address on the internet somehow....if u felt the need.

Yeah, it's public records, I don't see the big deal. The Dream Theater forums may block the PDF, but I'd like to think we're less fascist at PA. ;-)  


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Posted By: njb0168
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 16:41
Enough already! Bored now...Nuff said!


Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 16:44
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

 
Of course, MP can never do anything wrong. It sorta annoys me when he tries to act a victim in every situation.

It sorta annoys me how people are acting like he's Dr. Evil all the sudden. How come he can't say anything bad, but the band http://www.prog-sphere.com/2011/07/11/resurfacing-an-interview-with-james-labrie/" rel="nofollow - can ? How come people are acting like they know the full story? Really do people feel the band's livelihood hinges on unquestionably praising the new album and bashing MP? Plus weren't you like, "Portnoy is ta greatest ever" not too long ago? Now that Mangini is in the band he's all the sudden "better than Portnoy"? Well he may be technically, but news flash: they tried their hardest to make him sound like Portnoy on ADToE. 

I'm sure most of you would act similarly if put in the same situation as the guy, so relax a bit and put down the pitchforks. 


Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:03
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 
Originally posted by Windhawk Windhawk wrote:

Someone at Blabbermouth that doesn't like MP perhaps? If what I've read is correct, they were the ones who opted to spread this one to the world.
That's ridiculous. The document was made public by a third party, and they had just as much information as we did at the time. All they did was summarize the document, it's not their fault that everyone on the internet got out their jump to conclusions mat. Although I'm personally still unsure about the true situation, and why didn't Mike say that there is no pending litigation right away instead of being coy?
 
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

And I am sure you can find their home address on the internet somehow....if u felt the need.
Yeah, it's public records, I don't see the big deal. The Dream Theater forums may block the PDF, but I'd like to think we're less fascist at PA. ;-)
 

Describing mundane actions like those taken on a messageboard as "fascist" is just fatuous. And infantile.


Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:04
Originally posted by TheClosing TheClosing wrote:

Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

 
Of course, MP can never do anything wrong. It sorta annoys me when he tries to act a victim in every situation.

It sorta annoys me how people are acting like he's Dr. Evil all the sudden. How come he can't say anything bad, but the band http://www.prog-sphere.com/2011/07/11/resurfacing-an-interview-with-james-labrie/" rel="nofollow - can ? How come people are acting like they know the full story? Really do people feel the band's livelihood hinges on unquestionably praising the new album and bashing MP? Plus weren't you like, "Portnoy is ta greatest ever" not too long ago? Now that Mangini is in the band he's all the sudden "better than Portnoy"? Well he may be technically, but news flash: they tried their hardest to make him sound like Portnoy on ADToE. 

I'm sure most of you would act similarly if put in the same situation as the guy, so relax a bit and put down the pitchforks. 

I'm sorry, but you seem to have a gigantic MP bias. He's been a real a****le throughout this whole situation and deserves the flak. He's constantly playing the victim when he brings things upon himself. And about the band saying bad things about him, wow you're really trying hard to even the playing field with this one. MP himself admits that he wants to be the center of attention often. LaBrie said it as well, and it does detract from the bigger picture. Is it the bands fault that he's like this? No. Is it MPs fault he's in this situation? Yes.

Now about me loving Portnoy, I still do love his drumming and he is still amongst my favourite drummers, but I actually preferred Mangini on this album. And yeah I'll admit, he sounded like Portnoy on the album a bit, but I found Mangini showed more skill in the harder spots. Besides, John wrote all the drum parts ahead of time, so you'd think John would be used to playing with MP for 25 years and sort of gets his drumming style in his head. 


Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:04
I hope this is true, because I like funnies.

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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:23
I always thought he was a fag. He thinks he was such an integral part of DT, but I'm pretty sure he was little more than a drummer with a huge ego. I mean does he even know anything about music theory and composition? doubtful

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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:29
I do not agree with Portony, but I at least try to remain respectful about it. But calling him a fag? Really? Not even he deserves that.

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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:30
Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

I always thought he was a fag. He thinks he was such an integral part of DT, but I'm pretty sure he was little more than a drummer with a huge ego. I mean does he even know anything about music theory and composition? doubtful


Wow, what an unintelligent post.


Don't forget he went to Berklee..... Ermm


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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:35
Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

I always thought he was a fag. He thinks he was such an integral part of DT, but I'm pretty sure he was little more than a drummer with a huge ego. I mean does he even know anything about music theory and composition? doubtful


Wow, what an unintelligent post.


Don't forget he went to Berklee..... Ermm
I read somewhere that he didn't actually write any of the music in DT


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Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:38
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

 
I'm sorry, but you seem to have a gigantic MP bias. He's been a real a****le throughout this whole situation and deserves the flak. He's constantly playing the victim when he brings things upon himself. And about the band saying bad things about him, wow you're really trying hard to even the playing field with this one. MP himself admits that he wants to be the center of attention often. LaBrie said it as well, and it does detract from the bigger picture. Is it the bands fault that he's like this? No. Is it MPs fault he's in this situation? Yes.

Now about me loving Portnoy, I still do love his drumming and he is still amongst my favourite drummers, but I actually preferred Mangini on this album. And yeah I'll admit, he sounded like Portnoy on the album a bit, but I found Mangini showed more skill in the harder spots. Besides, John wrote all the drum parts ahead of time, so you'd think John would be used to playing with MP for 25 years and sort of gets his drumming style in his head. 

Dude, I've been ragging on Portnoy for his stage antics and tough guy vocals for years. You guys however are taking it to a whole new level by attacking his character. Look how eagerly everyone was to jump to conclusions in this thread as it was. I'm sure any attorney for someone as high profile as MP would have filed a claim like this regardless of whether MP meant to go through with it or not. No different than Petrucci's lawyer stepping in to contact MP. All I'm trying to say is, no one is exactly smelling like roses at this point, nor does anyone but the band have all the facts and even for them I'm sure it's distorted. But I guess you can't stop people from being keyboard warriors...

Any good drummer will tell you it's all about groove. You on the other hand like to talk about speed this and that. Also people like to bring up the linear fills starting on the octobans down that Mike constantly used, but they made Mangini do plenty of that as well. When it comes down to it I remember the solid grooves on tracks like Blind Faith, but can't remember jack squat of what MM played on ADToE after six or so solid listens. 


Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:39
Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

I always thought he was a fag. He thinks he was such an integral part of DT, but I'm pretty sure he was little more than a drummer with a huge ego. I mean does he even know anything about music theory and composition? doubtful


Wow, what an unintelligent post.


Don't forget he went to Berklee..... Ermm
I read somewhere that he didn't actually write any of the music in DT

He wrote quite a bit.



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