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Topic: Mike Oldfield vs Steven Wilson
Posted By: criticdrummer94
Subject: Mike Oldfield vs Steven Wilson
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 15:53
Both in Crossover Prog, both multi-instrumentalists and both with fantastic albums. Which do you like more? I personally go with Oldfield 

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 15:56
As a solo artist, Mike Oldfield.  I don't much care for Steven Wilson's solo output.

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 16:03
As solo artists, if you take PT off the table, Oldfield destroys Wilson.  If you count PT, it's a match, but I'd still take Oldfield personally.  

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 16:07
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

As solo artists, if you take PT off the table, Oldfield destroys Wilson.  If you count PT, it's a match, but I'd still take Oldfield personally.  


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 16:09
SW is in crossover? Odd choice to me.
 
But, I'll go with Oldfield, even if just for Amaork and The Bells.


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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 16:16

If one counts IEM and early Porcupine Tree as "solo" Wilson, I feel inclined for a draw.



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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 16:19
I would take Wilson's two solo albums over anything Oldfield has done.Oldfield has put out a lot of crap in his career but i still listen to Hergest Ridge,Ommadawn and Tubular Bells, but only those.
So Wilson wins easily for me.


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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 16:30
Oldfield for me. Still love his early work so much, still remember how I felt when Tubular Bells was released.


Posted By: beebs
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 16:32
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

As a solo artist, Mike Oldfield.  I don't much care for Steven Wilson's solo output.


 ^ ^ ^ This! 5-star comment. I wondered myself, "WHY are these two even being compared?" Just because they are multi-instrumentalists?? Lame.


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Posted By: Godbluff Generator
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 16:43
I would say that they are being compared because they're similar to a reasonable degree (seeing as no one's that similar to either of them), and because they're both very good.

I would say Steven Wilson because his best is very much up there with Oldfield's best (even the new stuff- Deform to Form a Star is the best standalone song I've heard this year. Which is surprising, because it's less than 10 minutes long! :-P), and imo every single one of his records (whether in No-Man, Porcupine Tree, Bass Communion, IEM, Blackfield, or any others) is at least good. Same can't be said of Oldfield, imo.


Posted By: njb0168
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 17:16
I go with the earlier comments re Oldfield


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 17:24
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

As solo artists, if you take PT off the table, Oldfield destroys Wilson.  If you count PT, it's a match, but I'd still take Oldfield personally.  


Yes, this.


Pretty much. Wilson has the time to go beyond, though. He certainly seems in a good period.


Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 17:34
Steven Wilson!

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 18:06
Easy choice for me - Mike Oldfield.  Not a big fan of Wilson.

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Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 18:10
Easy choice for me - Steven Wilson. Not a big fan of Oldfield.
Wink


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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 19:49
Steven Wilson. I enjoy everything he's done

I do quite like Mike Oldfield, though, as well


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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 19:50
Is this comparing just their solo material? Or the artists in general?

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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 20:00
Easy call for me - Oldfield

I like PT & Grace From Drowning but Oldfield has done some of my favorite albums by anyone.


Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 21:06
Mr. Oldfield for me.

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 04 2011 at 00:27
Oldfield

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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: November 04 2011 at 00:37
Oldfield!!! Oldfield is a genius, Wilson is becoming one.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 04 2011 at 03:00
One of those rare occasions when I can choose the 'both' option.


Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 04 2011 at 03:20
 Steven http://obrazky.cz/detail?q=wilson&offset=19&limit=20&bUrlPar=filter%3D1&resNum=23&ref=http%3A//obrazky.cz/%3Fq%3Dwilson&resID=s5qJHYOkfJ2jboTc7XEZC0Jr5vrfnMlsuh0G1uOM_GY&imgURL=http%3A//newcrop.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/cropmap/ncarolina/graphics/wilson.jpg&pageURL=http%3A//newcrop.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/cropmap/ncarolina/counties/wilson.html&imgX=248&imgY=166&imgSize=20&thURL=http%3A//media4.picsearch.com/is%3Fs5qJHYOkfJ2jboTc7XEZC0Jr5vrfnMlsuh0G1uOM_GY&thX=128&thY=85&qNoSite=wilson&siteWWW=&sId=nWp3WB6pwV6GfHNgqQ94" rel="nofollow - !

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Posted By: criticdrummer94
Date Posted: November 04 2011 at 07:19
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Is this comparing just their solo material? Or the artists in general?

Both


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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: November 04 2011 at 09:10
the best of Oldfield is better than the best of Wilson for me

but Wilson is much more consistent

Oldfield does have some true crap

I ended up voting for both


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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: November 04 2011 at 10:57
Originally posted by criticdrummer94 criticdrummer94 wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Is this comparing just their solo material? Or the artists in general?

Both

Uhm ok. Then Wilson by a light year. 


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Posted By: nicpraxis
Date Posted: November 15 2011 at 20:12
sw


Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: November 16 2011 at 16:44
Oldfield might have made some crap, everything Wilson does is crap. Oldfield for me.

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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: November 17 2011 at 16:43
Have to say Wilson. 


Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: November 29 2011 at 05:26
And Mike just scored another goal now leading over Steven! Clap


Posted By: GentleGiant
Date Posted: November 29 2011 at 06:48
Who is Wilson ? certainly not Oldfield .

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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: November 29 2011 at 07:24
I like pizza.


Posted By: Hober Mallow
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 21:02
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

As a solo artist, Mike Oldfield.  I don't much care for Steven Wilson's solo output.
Same with me. I was a bit disappointed with Grace for Drowning due to its high praise, I guess I just don't see it.

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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 21:18
Mike Oldfield by a trillion miles

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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 21:36
Awful comparison....simply awful....really why?
 
Anyways what ^ says...MO by a trillion miles, but I love SW's muzak too.


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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: December 03 2011 at 07:52
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

I would take Wilson's two solo albums over anything Oldfield has done.Oldfield has put out a lot of crap in his career but i still listen to Hergest Ridge,Ommadawn and Tubular Bells, but only those.
So Wilson wins easily for me.





Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 03 2011 at 09:14
Oldfield has a body of self titled albums, Wilson only has two so far.  

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Posted By: Pietro Otello Romano
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 18:49
Oldfield vs Wilson?!? Really???  Are the Prog fans changed so much in these last 35 years to compare a piece of history with just an intelligent pop artist? ....and when we will see a pool K Bush vs Lady Gaga, or Peter Gabriel vs Michael Jackson???  Tubular Bells was realized in 1973, and it was a very original masterpiece, the most of the PT music sound like a just pleasant cocktail of Beatles and Pink Floyd with a dash of King Crimson...but not at the same level of any of them.

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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 18:51
Originally posted by Pietro Otello Romano Pietro Otello Romano wrote:

Oldfield vs Wilson?!? Really???  Are the Prog fans changed so much in these last 35 years to compare a piece of history with just an intelligent pop artist? ....and when we will see a pool K Bush vs Lady Gaga, or Peter Gabriel vs Michael Jackson???  Tubular Bells was realized in 1973, and it was a very original masterpiece, the most of the PT music sound like a just pleasant cocktail of Beatles and Pink Floyd with a dash of King Crimson...but not at the same level of any of them.

Yes, really Tongue

Steven Wilson for me, anyday, anytime. 


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Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: February 20 2012 at 07:34
Big fan of Mr Wilson - in most of his various forms. Thought his Grace album one of the very best of 2011.
 
But life without Hergest Ridge, Ommadawn, Incantations and Amorak just doesn't bear thinking about.
 
Another vote for Mr Oldfield. 


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 20 2012 at 07:37
Oldfield before Wilson / PT.

I'm especially fond of the first three Oldfield albums & Collaborations, and I think Amarok is quite cool.


Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: July 28 2012 at 02:28
This poll is surprisingly close. Mike Oldfield by a landslide.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 28 2012 at 02:32
Originally posted by Raccoon Raccoon wrote:

This poll is surprisingly close. Mike Oldfield by a landslide.
they are very different talents making very different music so I suspect it comes down to taste (I voted for both so I am obviously quite broad mindedWink)


Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: July 28 2012 at 02:37
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Raccoon Raccoon wrote:

This poll is surprisingly close. Mike Oldfield by a landslide.
they are very different talents making very different music so I suspect it comes down to taste (I voted for both so I am obviously quite broad mindedWink)


LOL GOOD FOR YOU! It really is just about what you prefer. But I have to stay faithful to the 70's. Both is cheating! Compare and contrast!! I actually like PT, but I like Oldfield as a solo artist by far.


Posted By: Quirky Turkey
Date Posted: July 29 2012 at 00:27
I worship both! 


Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: July 29 2012 at 00:40

Oh, Mike Oldfield, definetly. Never liked PT.



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Posted By: sinslice
Date Posted: March 14 2013 at 20:36
Without detracting from the quality and quantity of contributions from Wilson to progressive music, Mike Oldfield think that is among the top 5 individual musicians ever. An absolute phenomenon and not look like anyone.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 14 2013 at 22:11
Lately I've been discovering and enjoying quiet a bit of Wilson and Porcupine Tree, but it will be very difficult for me to find anything as extremely beautiful as Oldfields first 4 albums.


Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 02:42
Wilson

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 03:02
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Lately I've been discovering and enjoying quiet a bit of Wilson and Porcupine Tree, but it will be very difficult for me to find anything as extremely beautiful as Oldfields first 4 albums.

Oh I don't know , Songs Of Distant Earth runs them closeWink


Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 05:42
Steven Wilson is a very talented musician and works with great guys such as Theo Travis.Moreover he managed to find his own way while paying homage to 70's great bands such as King Crimson but I find Mike Oldfield more moving,Ommadawn and Hergest Ridge are the treats.

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Posted By: Pietro Otello Romano
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 06:22
Originally posted by fusionfreak fusionfreak wrote:

Steven Wilson is a very talented musician and works with great guys such as Theo Travis.Moreover he managed to find his own way while paying homage to 70's great bands such as King Crimson but I find Mike Oldfield more moving,Ommadawn and Hergest Ridge are the treats.



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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 06:56
Originally posted by Pietro Otello Romano Pietro Otello Romano wrote:

Originally posted by fusionfreak fusionfreak wrote:

Steven Wilson is a very talented musician and works with great guys such as Theo Travis.Moreover he managed to find his own way while paying homage to 70's great bands such as King Crimson but I find Mike Oldfield more moving,Ommadawn and Hergest Ridge are the treats.



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 08:29
On the strength of Ommadawn, Hergest Ridge & Tubular Bells alone I would say Oldfield is the better solo artist. Stick PT into the equation and it levels out somewhat. The Wilson solo stuff I've heard, including some Blackfield is fairly unremarkable. But Oldfield has produced some insipid bilge over the years too. Five miles Out is the musical equivalent of eating dry branflakes.

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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 11:56
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

The Wilson solo stuff I've heard, including some Blackfield is fairly unremarkable

Shocked I always felt Wilson's solo stuff is far more original, innovative and complex than Porcupine Tree.


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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 12:05
Oldfield by a long shot.

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Posted By: elbownut
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 12:33

Wilson ...on the strength of his latest



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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 23:14
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Lately I've been discovering and enjoying quiet a bit of Wilson and Porcupine Tree, but it will be very difficult for me to find anything as extremely beautiful as Oldfields first 4 albums.

Oh I don't know , Songs Of Distant Earth runs them closeWink


Yeah, I forgot about that one, which is great too, of course. I guess the closest he got to the glory of his original four... together with Amarok, I guess, but I haven't heard that one yet.


Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 23:27
Steven's solo output is even better than PT, so Steven. Used to like Oldfield, now he bores me.


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 16 2013 at 11:33
Never liked Oldfield so.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 16 2013 at 17:00
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Lately I've been discovering and enjoying quiet a bit of Wilson and Porcupine Tree, but it will be very difficult for me to find anything as extremely beautiful as Oldfields first 4 albums.

Oh I don't know , Songs Of Distant Earth runs them closeWink


Yeah, I forgot about that one, which is great too, of course. I guess the closest he got to the glory of his original four... together with Amarok, I guess, but I haven't heard that one yet.

Amarok tends to divide opinion as its not quite as structured as those others. I love it personally.


Posted By: Ruby900
Date Posted: March 16 2013 at 17:22
Mike Oldfield for me.

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Posted By: zachfive
Date Posted: March 17 2013 at 00:16
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

... But Oldfield has produced some insipid bilge over the years too. Five miles Out is the musical equivalent of eating dry branflakes.

I implore you go and re-listen to Five Miles Out, hell just listen to Taurus II, one of Oldfields best pieces in my opinion. I also like some other his later output. I think Discovery is a solid album, as is Crisis and Earth Moving. Some real gems in those three albums; The Lake from Discovery - a great instrumental, Holy from Earth Moving with Adrian Belew on vocals, how could you not enjoy that?, and the eponymous track on Crisis as well as most of side B all are great, albeit different from his first albums, but great none the less.

I've listened to Mike Oldfields entire discography many times over, and Five Miles Out is in the Top 5 for me, easily.


Posted By: resurrection
Date Posted: March 17 2013 at 02:35
Mike Oldfield


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 17 2013 at 18:13
Originally posted by zachfive zachfive wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

... But Oldfield has produced some insipid bilge over the years too. Five miles Out is the musical equivalent of eating dry branflakes.

I implore you go and re-listen to Five Miles Out, hell just listen to Taurus II, one of Oldfields best pieces in my opinion. I also like some other his later output. I think Discovery is a solid album, as is Crisis and Earth Moving. Some real gems in those three albums; The Lake from Discovery - a great instrumental, Holy from Earth Moving with Adrian Belew on vocals, how could you not enjoy that?, and the eponymous track on Crisis as well as most of side B all are great, albeit different from his first albums, but great none the less.

I've listened to Mike Oldfields entire discography many times over, and Five Miles Out is in the Top 5 for me, easily.
I like Tauras II a lot but not much else on 5 Miles Out, to me it's behind TB, Ommadawn, Hegrest Ridge, Incantations, Amarok & Songs From A Distant Earth

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 18 2013 at 21:30
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Lately I've been discovering and enjoying quiet a bit of Wilson and Porcupine Tree, but it will be very difficult for me to find anything as extremely beautiful as Oldfields first 4 albums.

Oh I don't know , Songs Of Distant Earth runs them closeWink


Yeah, I forgot about that one, which is great too, of course. I guess the closest he got to the glory of his original four... together with Amarok, I guess, but I haven't heard that one yet.

Amarok tends to divide opinion as its not quite as structured as those others. I love it personally.


I'm afraid I don't know it yet, except for a small excerpt from the best of album "elements", which I really like a lot (though perhaps the "special effects" were a bit too loud). However, I'm a bit put off by the idea of it all being just one song, because it's kind of impractical. If I don't have the time to listen to the whole album in one run it can be complicated.


Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: March 18 2013 at 23:03
Amarok is the only one that doesn't put me to sleep anymore.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 18 2013 at 23:37
Amarok is an album you must listen to in one sitting, from start to end. A stunning work of art!

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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: March 19 2013 at 04:08
Wilson here by a country mile.  I rate each of his studio albums to be easily better than anything by Oldfield that I know.

He's a nice guy, but sorry Mike. 


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 19 2013 at 08:45
Originally posted by Roj Roj wrote:

Wilson here by a country mile.  I rate each of his studio albums to be easily better than anything by Oldfield that I know.

He's a nice guy, but sorry Mike. 
Guess I'm the other way round, I'd pick up 5 Oldfield albums before getting to any Wilson.

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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: March 19 2013 at 08:57
Oldfield made those first 3-4 albums, was so cutting edge at the time, after that he lost me.
Wilson seems to be growing fast (or actualy putting his focus into solo work)
 
As it stands now i will vote "I like them both equally", but i would think Wilson takes the lead very soon. 
 
If Wilsons other projects collaborations ect. was included. No contest. - Mike is relatively one sided.
 


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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 19 2013 at 12:33
I really don't understand what's there so special about Mike Oldfield. For example, talking of 'Tubular Bells', I can name really entertaining only the last few minutes of part one, but... very soon I feel that they're very repetitive. I love Oldfield's music, but to rate it over Steven Wilson's stuff is... just... obsolete.

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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: March 19 2013 at 13:01

Wilson has 3 albums. Oldfield has about 3 good ones, if only he had stopped after those.
Oldfield was more groundbreaking, Wilson is a better judge of his own work. I'll go with Wilson



Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: March 19 2013 at 15:23
Originally posted by ole-the-first ole-the-first wrote:

I really don't understand what's there so special about Mike Oldfield. For example, talking of 'Tubular Bells', I can name really entertaining only the last few minutes of part one, but... very soon I feel that they're very repetitive. I love Oldfield's music, but to rate it over Steven Wilson's stuff is... just... obsolete.

(expecting egg-throwing Stern Smile )
I very much agree. Tubular Bells is probably a 2 star album for me. Even when I was an Oldfield fan it left me cold. Guess I don't see what others do.


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 19 2013 at 15:26
Originally posted by ole-the-first ole-the-first wrote:

  I love Oldfield's music, but to rate it over Steven Wilson's stuff is... just... obsolete.

I guess by that logic rating Gabriel era Genesis ahead of BBT is... just... obsolete.

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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 19 2013 at 15:41
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by ole-the-first ole-the-first wrote:

  I love Oldfield's music, but to rate it over Steven Wilson's stuff is... just... obsolete.

I guess by that logic rating Gabriel era Genesis ahead of BBT is... just... obsolete.

No, it's reductio ad absurdum.


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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: March 19 2013 at 16:23
never understood the hype surroudning Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson. I saw Porcupine Tree open for Marillion, and to be honest, it bored me to death.



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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 19 2013 at 16:44
Originally posted by ole-the-first ole-the-first wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by ole-the-first ole-the-first wrote:

  I love Oldfield's music, but to rate it over Steven Wilson's stuff is... just... obsolete.

I guess by that logic rating Gabriel era Genesis ahead of BBT is... just... obsolete.

No, it's reductio ad absurdum.
Indeed it is.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 19 2013 at 17:46
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Originally posted by ole-the-first ole-the-first wrote:

I really don't understand what's there so special about Mike Oldfield. For example, talking of 'Tubular Bells', I can name really entertaining only the last few minutes of part one, but... very soon I feel that they're very repetitive. I love Oldfield's music, but to rate it over Steven Wilson's stuff is... just... obsolete.

(expecting egg-throwing Stern Smile )
I very much agree. Tubular Bells is probably a 2 star album for me. Even when I was an Oldfield fan it left me cold. Guess I don't see what others do.

Tubular Bells is overloaded with ideas which are mostly great but not properly developed imo. Ommadawn was the one that blew me away on first listen and Hergest Ridge was the one that rewarded me after many plays. That said Incantations would be one of my desert island disc picks if only for the awesome Part 3.


Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: March 19 2013 at 20:41
Mike Oldfield all the way. I'm just not a big fan of Steven Wilson.

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Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: March 19 2013 at 20:41
They are not comparable. Oldfield beats easily Wilson.

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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 20 2013 at 04:41
Originally posted by geneyesontle geneyesontle wrote:

They are not comparable. Oldfield beats easily Wilson.

In what way then?

vs

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 21 2013 at 18:01
That MIke Oldfield video above is a lot of fun

this isn't






Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 15:49
Both are great, but I prefer Wilson.

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Posted By: Anaon
Date Posted: March 24 2013 at 11:06
I really love Wilson for being a modern prog master but I voted Oldfield, he is one of my favourite artist (as you can guess with my avatar...) and just because of Ommadawn and Hergest Bridge... Wink

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Posted By: otto pankrock
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 19:31
Oldfield.Wilson never did anything for me. Can't say that he's bad, his music never registered with me.


Posted By: mohaveman
Date Posted: April 01 2013 at 12:29
Oldfield

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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: March 07 2014 at 00:41
Had to like both equally. Mike Oldfield for his diverse and interesting catalogue of music, same for SW. My interest is mainly with P Tree rather than his other works - I've heard some of most. However SW was P Tree for a while before the gigs and the band which became his material and their crucial arrangements.

If P Tree are no more it seems a shame Grace For Drowing was not the last P Tree album rather than the non event that is The Incident the first and only really big disappointment from P Tree IMHO. Which pretty much means SW and his cohorts put some great albums together.

I think it's a worthy comparison. Oldfield's name can either mean just (sic) himself or a band (oh, that Montreux DVD...) same with SW, whether it's various entities undertaking various interests.




Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: March 07 2014 at 01:01
Both.


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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: March 07 2014 at 01:20

Originally posted by geneyesontle geneyesontle wrote:

They are not comparable. Oldfield beats easily Wilson.

I think it is an unfair comparison TBH.....MO is multi dimensional and and Steve Wilson has incredible technical sounds. Not a question of beating Smile


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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: March 07 2014 at 02:11
Recent Mr Oldfield's album is really bullsh*tt.


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 07 2014 at 03:13
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:


Originally posted by geneyesontle geneyesontle wrote:

They are not comparable. Oldfield beats easily Wilson.

I think it is an unfair comparison TBH.....MO is multi dimensional and and Steve Wilson has incredible technical sounds. Not a question of beating Smile
Well said. Several genres + many instruments vs. production skills.

I haven't investigated Oldfield's work past Tubular Bells, so I wouldn't vote as of now.


Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: March 07 2014 at 12:54
Oldfield by miles for me Big smile


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 07 2014 at 14:29
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:




Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

Originally posted by geneyesontle geneyesontle wrote:

They are not comparable. Oldfield beats easily Wilson.
I think it is an unfair comparison TBH.....MO is multi dimensional and and Steve Wilson has incredible technical sounds. Not a question of beating Smile
Well said. Several genres + many instruments vs. production skills.
I haven't investigated Oldfield's work past Tubular Bells, so I wouldn't vote as of now.




If you liked Tubular Bells, then you must get the next 3 albums at least, and ASAP.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 07 2014 at 14:29
Originally posted by Xonty Xonty wrote:

Oldfield by miles for me Big smile


Shouldn't it be by 5 miles?


Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: March 07 2014 at 14:58
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

I would take Wilson's two solo albums over anything Oldfield has done.Oldfield has put out a lot of crap in his career but i still listen to Hergest Ridge,Ommadawn and Tubular Bells, but only those.
So Wilson wins easily for me.

I would disagree. Every album he released up to Discovery is good in one way or another. Even some later albums turned out well, such as Amarok. I like Steven Wilson, but any i enjoy Mike Oldfield far more.


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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: March 07 2014 at 15:02
I like a couple of songs from Oldfield and i hate a couple of songs from Wilson, so you know my vote...

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Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: March 07 2014 at 15:04
Oh, and I came across this live Oldfield video recently, and I'm really digging it. I've never seen or watched Steven Wilson live though.



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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: March 07 2014 at 15:12
Steve Wilsion by a bit.

By the way it is a strange comparison.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 08 2014 at 03:11
Since this poll was put up we've had the release of Wilson's The Raven That Refuse To Sing  and Mike Oldfield's Man On The Rocks. Could they be going in such completely opposite directions even if they tried? Wilson is now the standard bearer for quality complex modern prog while Oldfield is an old relic.



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