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Ignatius for Neo or Symph/Cross (if Neo fails)

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Topic: Ignatius for Neo or Symph/Cross (if Neo fails)
Posted By: Marty McFly
Subject: Ignatius for Neo or Symph/Cross (if Neo fails)
Date Posted: November 05 2011 at 11:03

Suicidal Symphonic tendencies and atmosphere with modern sounds. My guess would be Neo. Certain elements of Eclectic too (dark atmosphere)

Their entire (or almost entire) album is here on Myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/ignatiusrock" rel="nofollow - MYSPACE LINK IGNATIUS

Myspace says unsigned, but they have an album available for sale (digital probably).


Happy hunting



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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: November 05 2011 at 20:39
Really enjoyed this one! Neo should accept them with open arms imho! 
Album is called "Lights From The Deep", released on Musea, August 2011: http://musearecords.com/boutique/anglais/index.php?ficheprod=1&artiste=IGNATIUS&refp=37710" rel="nofollow - http://musearecords.com/boutique/anglais/index.php?ficheprod=1&artiste=IGNATIUS&refp=37710 .  
Band members: Ricardo Boya: (bass, keyboards and vocals); Toni Castarlenas: (guitars); and Marcelo Ortiz: (drums).
Fine band ideed! (They are already on proggnosis and progressiveworld sites).
 
 
 
 
 
The same track recrded live at Boca Nord Civic Centre, Barcelona, Spain - Saturday December 11, 2010.
 
 
And a much earlier live performance from 2008 with a different line up (drummer and keyboard player) and playing a track not on the current album.
 
 
Album review in Spanish here: http://juanegara.blogspot.com/2011/09/ignatius-lights-from-deep-2011.html" rel="nofollow - http://juanegara.blogspot.com/2011/09/ignatius-lights-from-deep-2011.html
Apparently they have enough material for a second album.
 
They also did a 3-track demo EP in 2009:
 
Fragment - Demo (2009)
1. Lights From the Deep
2. Morning Moon
3. Resurrection
 


Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: November 05 2011 at 21:52
Thanks for your suggestion Marty, and always detailed infos Yammy. Hug

Anyway, a good band indeed, but too heavy and too of mainstream for Neo.
Hour Of The Shipwreck meets Haken ... my impression.
Fitter for Crossover, methinks.


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Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 05:16
This Ignatius, it's a tricky one. I couldn't make a head or tales of it at first. Crossover is of course possibility and we will try.

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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
   -Andyman1125 on Lulu



Even my cat believes that :-)


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 13:50
EDIT - with neo for evaluation now. I voted yes.

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Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: November 15 2011 at 17:25
Good news Steve.

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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
   -Andyman1125 on Lulu



Even my cat believes that :-)


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 27 2011 at 22:05
Somebody suggested Ignatius to Symphonic, and already replied:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Ignatius (Spain): For what i heard hard Rock,  Neo Prog  and Prog Metal, so ECLECTIC

Verified other sites and found:

Proggnosis
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SpainProg - Neo-Prog - General http://www.proggnosis.com/PGArtist.asp?AID=10532" rel="nofollow -
Quote El grupo gusta de los pasajes instrumentales como se puede apreciar en el tema que cierra el álbum "Morning Moon", muy a lo Pink Floyd (The group likes instrumental pasages like Morning Moon, close to Pink Floyd) especialmente en los pasajes atmosféricos que imprime los teclados, omnipresentes en todo el álbum, amen de la guitarra en plan solista desprendiendo mucho sentimiento. Otro tema del mismo calibre es precisamente el tema mas largo y que da nombre al álbum "Lights from the Deep" con esos interminables y lineales solos instrumentales.

Los temas cantados por Ricardo Boya suenan muy NEO progresivo (The sung tracks sound very Neo Prog), especialmente "Emptiness", una descarga emocional e intensa con la voz desgarrada de Ricardo, me recuerda y mucho a los trabajos mas actuales de ARENA o PENDRAGON. Otro tema parecido y cantado pero mas enérgico es la inicial "Bleeding Souls".

Mas próximo al HARD Rock tenemos "Resurrection" (Closer to Hard Rock we have Resurrection)mezclados con pasajes suaves e intensos a Pink Floyd.y algún toque caótico a lo King Crimson en su parte central. El tema BCN, siglas de Barcelona es abierto con un caos instrumental y efectos de sonido para que imaginemos una ciudad cosmopolita, es una tema variado, donde podemos oir Metal prog, Neo progresivo y como no la interacción de guitarra y teclados.

In other words, Pink Floyd influenced, Neo Prog and Hard Rock with some Heavy Metal sections.

ProgressiveWorld.Net says:

Quote heir music is under the influence of the 70's classic Symphonic/Progressive Rock. The aim is to reproduce the feelling of this period but with a personal "touch": Landscapes with atmospherical synths, agressive and powerfull, sweet harmonies and guitar lines flyng over the music, they build theLights From The Deep album.
Ignatius are: Ricardo Boya: bass, keyboards and vocals; Toni Castarlenas: guitars; and Marcelo Ortiz: drums. Their Influences: Bach, Zappa, Judas Priest, Motorhead, Pink Floyd, Genesis, King Crimson, Rush, Yes, The Haunted, Keith Jarret, Thelonious Monk, Jethro Tull, Black Sabbath, Stravinsky...

Symphonic with those influences??????

I believe this guys identify 70's Prog as symphonic, but to be honest, Ignatius sounds like anything except 70's Prog

Excelent band but ECLECTIC IMHO.

Iván


That's my opinion.

Iván


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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: November 27 2011 at 22:23
Well neo certainly don't want them: http://progfreak.com/Ignatius-151001.html?path=pa/recent" rel="nofollow - http://progfreak.com/Ignatius-151001.html?path=pa/recent : Lets all cross our fingers, toes, and anything else that we may have to hand, that eclectic will find them a slot.


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 27 2011 at 23:12
Honestly David, never thought Neo would accept them, too heavy for them.

The problem is that they have a lot of mainstream Hard Rock and Metal, maybe Xove would be more adequate, but that's not my call.

But at the end I believe they are Eclectic or Crossover, not sure which of the two. 

Iván


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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: November 27 2011 at 23:32
I'm sure one or the other will take them. Marty suggested them in the first place, so that's one 'yes' vote pretty well guaranteed if they end up in Crossover. So many prog bands these days mix their styles around quite a bit, even within the same album, and it's a real headache trying to find the best sub genre for them. I totally agree that they aren't a symphonic band though - so at least I'm making a little bit of progress!! Embarrassed 


Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: November 28 2011 at 05:41
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Honestly David, never thought Neo would accept them, too heavy for them.

The problem is that they have a lot of mainstream Hard Rock and Metal, maybe Xove would be more adequate, but that's not my call.

But at the end I believe they are Eclectic or Crossover, not sure which of the two. 

Iván

Indeed Iván, while at least one member of Neo (Keishiro) think of them as Crossover possible candidate, we may take Ignatius. The heaviness worried me as well (not in a bad way, but rather if they will be Neo enough), but some elements in their music hinted me there.

Next stop Eclectic and Crossover then.



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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
   -Andyman1125 on Lulu



Even my cat believes that :-)


Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: November 28 2011 at 05:44
We all agree on that they should be here, that's at least something.

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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
   -Andyman1125 on Lulu



Even my cat believes that :-)


Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: January 14 2012 at 12:05
Heard them on Progstreaming. Great band.
 
Reminds me of Djam Karet under Eclectic only less eclectic. More like heavy space rock.


Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: January 14 2012 at 12:49

Thanks for bumping EARLYPROG, now I can ask around what state are they in now

being ping-ponged ?
being on a list of evaluation
or perhaps being lost ?

Update please.



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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
   -Andyman1125 on Lulu



Even my cat believes that :-)


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 14 2012 at 13:12
I checked out the samples and this band rather makes me think of It Bites; I think Crossover would be suitable.


Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: January 18 2012 at 15:54

And they're cleared.


I think I'll ask the Original Poster to make a biography for them.

OK, Marty said he'll do it.



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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
   -Andyman1125 on Lulu



Even my cat believes that :-)


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 18 2012 at 16:02
Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

And they're cleared.


I think I'll ask the Original Poster to make a biography for them.

OK, Marty said he'll do it.



LOL


Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: January 18 2012 at 17:26
added to crossover

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