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Topic: New Iona Appreciation Thread
Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Subject: New Iona Appreciation Thread
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 19:12
This has been done before but the thread got locked (inactive for too long, I guess?) so I decided to start a new one.

For those who don't know, Iona is a progressive Celtic band from the UK.  They are AMAZING and it's appalling that so few people have heard of them.  I think they're actually more well known outside prog circles, but not given much attention on this site, which is a shame because they're one of the best bands on PA.  Singer Joann Hogg has a stunning and versatile voice, and guitarist Dave Bainbridge is one of the best in the business (check out "Inside My Heart" from the live album Heaven's Bright Sun to get an idea of what I'm talking about).  I love the melodic, uplifting style of his playing.

I've heard a few albums and I plan to check them all out in the near future (I think they have seven studio albums).  Right now my favorite is Heaven's Bright Sun (live); it was my introduction to the band and it's complete audio perfection.  Has anyone heard their new album, Another Realm?  I want to get it but it's only available in Europe (I live in the US) and I keep myself on a tight budget so I might wait until it's available on this side of the pond (which hopefully will be soon).



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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 21:13
Well, some of us at PA have been ardent fans, I have almost all the basic studio releases (Another Realm is on its way) but I believe that the Live in London DVD is the ultimate Iona package. Also Bainbridge's solo album Veil of Giossamer is breathless. Seemingly people still attach importance to its relative Christianity which is a shame , as its not very preachy. They will be touring the States soon, perhaps you can hook up........  

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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 21:58
Being a Christian myself, I sometimes with that they would be more obviously Christian in their lyrics.  But a lot of the lyrics focus on one's relationship with God and God's creation, and that makes up a lot of the beauty of their music, as it has the ambient feel of God's prescence in one's life.  I don't think it's really the Christianity that drives people on this site away from the band, as much as it is that Iona isn't really "prog" in the traditional sense (even though I do think they belong on this site) and don't appeal as much to the demographic on PA.  I still think it would do progheads good to check them out, though, because regardless of the genre, their music is very beautiful.  If more people listened to Iona, the world would be a better place (and I mean exactly what I said, I'm not exaggerating.  I believe that music has the power to influence people's souls and character).


Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: December 28 2011 at 13:53
Come on Iona fans, I know you're out there...
Let's get the word out about this amazing band!
(I'm waiting for you, Mellotron Storm, we need collaborators and prog reviewers to give an authoritative opinion!  So far we've got one...)



Posted By: shantelleyu
Date Posted: January 05 2012 at 04:25
I also her fans


Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 23:13
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

...guitarist Dave Bainbridge is one of the best in the business (check out "Inside My Heart" from the live album Heaven's Bright Sun to get an idea of what I'm talking about).  I love the melodic, uplifting style of his playing...
The album Veil of Gossamer by Bainbridge is an instant classic.  Quite the talent and genius...


Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 23:25
Originally posted by prog4evr prog4evr wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

...guitarist Dave Bainbridge is one of the best in the business (check out "Inside My Heart" from the live album Heaven's Bright Sun to get an idea of what I'm talking about).  I love the melodic, uplifting style of his playing...
The album Veil of Gossamer by Bainbridge is an instant classic.  Quite the talent and genius...
An incredible album, easily on my top 50 EVER! Approve See my review for some proof!

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Posted By: mwood
Date Posted: January 12 2012 at 10:04
I have their first 4 CDs - some great stuff, especially "The Book of Kells".  I also have front row tickets for their show on June 24th.  Never seen them live before.


Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: January 13 2012 at 03:06
Unfortunately, I am having trouble with their latest Another Realm. Just reviewed it (its all there to read) and am quite disappointed ......Tons of spins have only confirmed my dread.

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: January 13 2012 at 07:28
Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Unfortunately, I am having trouble with their latest Another Realm. Just reviewed it (its all there to read) and am quite disappointed ......Tons of spins have only confirmed my dread.
 
Just read it Thomas and even though you were disappointed the review makes me want to get it.Go figure ?
I'm a big fan as well and enjoy pretty much all of their stuff but especially Open Sky.


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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: January 13 2012 at 10:46
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Unfortunately, I am having trouble with their latest Another Realm. Just reviewed it (its all there to read) and am quite disappointed ......Tons of spins have only confirmed my dread.
 
Just read it Thomas and even though you were disappointed the review makes me want to get it.Go figure ?
I'm a big fan as well and enjoy pretty much all of their stuff but especially Open Sky.
Are you saying that my writing style induces fans to get albums even though they may be insipid?Wink  Darn it, I should be in marketing!   Er....I am ......Confused
Knowing your likes and dislikes, I wager you will agree with my comments. Shocked


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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: January 13 2012 at 13:39
Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Unfortunately, I am having trouble with their latest Another Realm. Just reviewed it (its all there to read) and am quite disappointed ......Tons of spins have only confirmed my dread.
 
Just read it Thomas and even though you were disappointed the review makes me want to get it.Go figure ?
I'm a big fan as well and enjoy pretty much all of their stuff but especially Open Sky.
Are you saying that my writing style induces fans to get albums even though they may be insipid?Wink  Darn it, I should be in marketing!   Er....I am ......Confused
Knowing your likes and dislikes, I wager you will agree with my comments. Shocked

Hey i thought you must be in sales or somethingLOL. You tell it like it is but i still want to buy from youLOL.


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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: January 19 2012 at 17:17
Is there anywhere I can (legally) stream the new album online?  I'd like to give it a listen before I go out and spend twenty dollars for it.


Posted By: Guitar Noir
Date Posted: January 24 2012 at 07:58
Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Unfortunately, I am having trouble with their latest Another Realm. Just reviewed it (its all there to read) and am quite disappointed ......Tons of spins have only confirmed my dread.
 
 
I am a HUGE Iona fan, Beyond These Shores is my second favorite cd of all time.   However, I must agree that Another Realm is a bit of a let down for me as well.  I love the cd from a lyrical standpoint, however musically there's not much new here and overall it is nowhere near as powerfully as the previous cds.  It's not a bad cd, it's just not up the the extremely high standards of their previous work.  There are some great songs like "Clouds" and "White Horse".  "Let Your Glory Fall" is AMAZING!  I love Dave Bainbridge, he is one of my top ten favorite guiatr players and he has some nice solos on the cd.  Joanne Hogg's vocals are great as usual.  The new wind/ pipes player is great.  All that being said something is missing and I can't quite put my finger on it.  I would still recommend the cd to Iona fans.  I know for myself for whatever reason it took me a long time and a whole lot of plays to really get into the last two Iona cds, Open Sky and The Circling Hour, so I am open to Another Realm growing on me in time.         


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Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: January 24 2012 at 09:28
Another Realm is excellent. It's only slated because it's more obviously Christian, whereas in the past it's been much less obvious. 

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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: January 24 2012 at 21:15
Originally posted by JS19 JS19 wrote:

Another Realm is excellent. It's only slated because it's more obviously Christian, whereas in the past it's been much less obvious. 

I read the lyrics and was surprised to hear them talking about "revival" and such.  Lyrically, I really prefer their more Christo-centric material like "Chi-Ro" and "Wisdom," but I've always liked all their lyrics.  I listened to the songs on Youtube from the new album and liked them, but they didn't really strike me on the first listen.


Posted By: Guitar Noir
Date Posted: January 28 2012 at 12:28
Originally posted by JS19 JS19 wrote:

Another Realm is excellent. It's only slated because it's more obviously Christian, whereas in the past it's been much less obvious. 
 
 
I love the fact that the lyrics are more overtly Christian on Another Realm.  I had a slight issue with the fact that on Open Sky the lyriccs were covertly Christian.  My issue with Another Realm is the songwriting.  The songs do not seem as strong as their previous work. 


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Posted By: Green Flash
Date Posted: January 29 2012 at 15:15
Celtic Prog?     You might want to give Face The West a listen to.  New tunes out this summer too.  http://www.facethewest.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - http://www.facethewest.co.uk/


Posted By: LirazelsOdyssey
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 02:47
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This is actually my first post to prog archives forums. I stumbled here while googling info about Iona's new release "Another Realm".  I just acquired it tonight and have listened to the first CD. On first impressions, it seems some pretty powerful stuff. 

I've been a lover of Iona since they started or became known at all in the US in the early 90s. I've never seen them live and have periodically looked at their tour schedule but have been disappointed to not see them in the US. I see their schedule for this tour so far but see nothing on the West Coast which is from where I hail.  I wonder if they are going to add any more dates? 

Perusing the threads here I have discovered another outstanding band tonight who I am sampling on youtube right now, Mostly Autumn. Nice. 

I have loved Iona because they speak to the kind of way God has always wired me. I tend to be of a mystical bent.. not really what one would consider "charismatic" but more contemplative, relating more to the ancient Christian mystics. This type of Christian expression had seemed to all but have died out and really Iona has always been my sole connection to that kind of expression. I use their music in my personal prayer and meditation time and was transported to "another realm" of tears while listening to "An Atmosphere of Miracles" tonight. This is what Iona accomplishes in me. Always has.  Hoping this revives my love of them as it has kind of cooled in recent years. I've never really connected to their albums of the '00 decade such as "Circling Hour" and "Open Sky".  Maybe I haven't sat down and contemplated them enough, I don't know. Just never really grabbed me. 

On another note, another Christian prog band I have discovered a new love of this last year is "Glass Hammer"... oh wow!!. Their album "An Inconsolable Secret" has had immeasurable impact on me and is where I get my user name here. I totally see myself as Lirazel and that album connects me to the love of God my father like no other. I'm currently working on a lyric sheet for that album containing Bible verses and passages alongside the text because I find as I'm listening I keep thinking of ones that go along with the ideas being sung about. 

Hope to find some friends and kindred spirits here. 

Lirazel


Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 23:32
So you learned about this site because of Iona?  That's awesome!  I'm glad to hear they've meant so much for you in your faith.  I'm of the firm belief that if more people listened to Iona, the world would be a better place.
I didn't know Glass Hammer were a Christian band.  I've been checking them out, I'll try to pay more attention to the lyrics.  I don't know of many more Christian prog bands to recommend, though, unless you're into metal.  Neal Morse, maybe?


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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 23:54
Oh, I forgot; check out Epignosis for some good Christian symphonic prog.

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Posted By: LirazelsOdyssey
Date Posted: February 24 2012 at 13:03
Oh I've been making a project for some time to find decent (IMO) Christian faith based music. Personally, I can't stand the CC stuff the radio plays (with certain exceptions b/c  of lyrics).  A couple of years ago I joined emusic and found some wonderful ones that way. I also googled Christain Progressive and found some. Here I will list and link to some I have found: 

Akacia- Much like Yes and ELP. 
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http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=551" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=551

Ascension Theory- Progressive Rock-leans toward metal at times. Not overtly Christian in lyics but the concepts are there.

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2371" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2371

Dave Bainbridge- Solo stuff from Iona member

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1336" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1336

Unitopia- A musical smorgasbord is what you get from them. They are prog but so many musical styles are woven throughout their compositions. If you love variety, you will love them. They are what I call "Christo-friendly". Not Christain per se but their lyics are kind of feel good hippie type, but more deep and thoughtful than that. Their music brings me closer to God personally, which is MY criteria for  what I categorize as God music. The Garden album is a masterpiece IMO.

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4175" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4175

America Gomorrah- More prog-rock. Overtly Christian and sort of focused on end time themes.

http://www.americagomorrah.com/music.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.americagomorrah.com/music.html

Saviour Machine- Prog-metal- This is the darling of the Christian Goth community. They are epic and they have a bunch of Book of Revelation based concept albums. Lyrically they are pretty dark and focus on the Antichrist a LOT and so I find their stuff kind of oppressive actually.. which is saying a lot cause I'm pretty dark myself and can handle dark themes well. I have a lot of their stuff and actually have an unfinished project going of pulling out their better and lighter more inspiring tracks to put in a compilation CD/playlist.

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1036" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1036

Revelation Project- Another end times focused act. 

http://www.myspace.com/revelationproject" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/revelationproject

Rick Wakeman has been doing  some great Christian stuff for some time now. I only found that out in the last couple of years. I have his Amazing Grace Album and his collaboration with Jon Anderson in 2010, The Living Tree.

http://www.rwcc.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.rwcc.com/

BTW. I find a lot of uplift in Jon Anderson's solo stuff even though he does lean towards a New Age worldview. His stuff just makes me feel good and peaceful and paves to road to God for me. 

Also don't forget to check out this link to the CPR (Christian Progressive Rock) website:

http://www.cprogrock.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.cprogrock.com/


For more Celtic Christian stuff check out: 

Jeff Johnson and Brian Dunning

http://www.alivingdog.com/Music_Celtic.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.alivingdog.com/Music_Celtic.html

Maire Brennan -former lead singer of Clanaad

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Maire+Brennan" rel="nofollow - http://www.discogs.com/artist/Maire+Brennan

Eden's Bridge

http://www.edensbridge.net/index.aspx" rel="nofollow - http://www.edensbridge.net/index.aspx

So now that I've combed through my collection and have given some offerings, I would like to hear some of the music you all have found that boosts your faith and brings you closer to God. A band doesn't have to be marketed as a "Christian Band" to be that. In fact it may be better if they aren't marketed that way. I wonder if once an artist gets put on that "Christian" track then their stuff gets sculpted to fit some record company's idea of what a homogenous Christian populous wants? It may be true for the majority of Christian culture, but not for me, so I've had to dig deep and search heavily. 

I've found some other great stuff that isn't prog but is nonetheless faith inspiring. If anyone is interested I'll post more of what I've found. 

Lirazel




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Through forest dreary... Down paths of dread... Through vales of sorrow...
By dusk and dawning...By noon and night...He searches for me...

Ah Lirazel
My Love, he calls
Ah Lirazel
Oh return to me


Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: February 26 2012 at 17:46
^I responded in the other threadSmile

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