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Topic: Native american prog?
Posted By: Ytse_Jam
Subject: Native american prog?
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 12:42
I've always been fascinated by Native Americans and I also quite like their music, so I was wondering if there were any prog bands created by descendants of them and/or inspired by their music, culture, history, etc. Do you know something like this?



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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 12:53
Trey Gunn, formerly of King Crimson, has produced some stunning Native American soundscapes in his solo work, which comes very highly recommended.

The more obvious example of such music I can think of is Peter Gabriel's San Jacinto, a masterpiece.


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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 12:54
Is the 70's band Xit related to prog in any way?


Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 12:54

Manfred Mann's Plains Music?


Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 13:00
The new *shels has some native sounding influences, if you're into post rock

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 13:28
I don't know of any but John Arch formerly of FATES WARNING is part Cheyenne and has a song titled that from his EP Twist Of Fate which has a strong Native American vibe.
Also American band UNDER THE SUN's self titled album has a song called Dream Catcher with Cherokee Chief Running Bear offering up some narration in it.Another cool tune.


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 13:42
this song is about native american, and have a native american feal to it




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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 13:45
I too am interested in Native American culture and music.  I have a good amount of contemporary NA music, and have been involved with some activities with some friends who have now sadly passed away.  I do not know of any bands in particular, and am only vaguely aware of some of the suggestions given so far.  I can add one more single album: Toltec by Jon Anderson.  The music itself is not really Native American, but it features some narration by a medicine man identified as Longwalker.  The liner notes states his words "are the words of all our ancestors."  Having been involved in some ceremonies, I can appreciate what he says, and the messages inherent in the whole album.  XIT certainly rocks, and I recommend them.  I definitely want to check out the other suggestions given here.  From your photo of Dream Theater, it looks to me that James LaBrie might be Native American but I have never heard any such influence in their music.  For a completely different style, Willie Nelson is a full blood Cherokee, but he does not play Native music.

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 13:51
also Elton Johns most progressive rock song is about Native americans, and is filled with native american music motifs




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Posted By: Ytse_Jam
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 14:24
Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

I too am interested in Native American culture and music.  I have a good amount of contemporary NA music, and have been involved with some activities with some friends who have now sadly passed away.  I do not know of any bands in particular, and am only vaguely aware of some of the suggestions given so far.  I can add one more single album: Toltec by Jon Anderson.  The music itself is not really Native American, but it features some narration by a medicine man identified as Longwalker.  The liner notes states his words "are the words of all our ancestors."  Having been involved in some ceremonies, I can appreciate what he says, and the messages inherent in the whole album.  XIT certainly rocks, and I recommend them.  I definitely want to check out the other suggestions given here.  From your photo of Dream Theater, it looks to me that James LaBrie might be Native American but I have never heard any such influence in their music.  For a completely different style, Willie Nelson is a full blood Cherokee, but he does not play Native music.
NA influences would be great in Dream Theater music! That Anderson's work seems very interesting, I will give it a listen, as well as all the other suggestions given here. Thank you all.


Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 14:49
Try "Anonymous" By Mike Patton's band Tomahawk


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 15:35
check -
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 16:37
Originally posted by Ytse_Jam Ytse_Jam wrote:

 
NA influences would be great in Dream Theater music! That Anderson's work seems very interesting, I will give it a listen, as well as all the other suggestions given here. Thank you all.

Bridges in the Sky


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 17:02
Have you seen this website?:  http://www.nativeamericanmusicawards.com/home.cfm" rel="nofollow - http://www.nativeamericanmusicawards.com/home.cfm   I doubt that they have a prog category but maybe some good stuff can be found here.
 
Not prog, but Manowar has a song called Spirit Horse of the Cherokee on their The Triumph of Steel album.
 
Of course, there is Iron Maiden's Run to the Hills and Anthrax's Indians.


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Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 18:08



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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 18:20
Check out Epignosis, he has some Cherokee blood. :)


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 18:50
I was under the impression that Kansas' singer had native american blood, though i don't think there was much native american influence on their music (I don't know much about it though, so I may be wrong). Also, Nightwish did a track with a native american on flutes and some sort of singing, they even played it live with him... it was very interesting, I wish they had done more of that stuff. Something like a whole album colaboration with him on the flute (or whatever that instrument was called) and vocals would have been really awsome.


Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 19:05
Originally posted by Smurph Smurph wrote:

Try "Anonymous" By Mike Patton's band Tomahawk

This, and also Proto-Kaw is symphonic Native American influenced prog.


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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 19:20
Tomahawk's most recent album perhaps - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28Tomahawk_album%29" rel="nofollow - Anonymous
Not prog in the classic sense, but mixing rock and Native American music.






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Posted By: Ytse_Jam
Date Posted: January 24 2012 at 14:57

I also found some native american tunes in Flower Kings. Do you? However, thank you all very much. Very interesting suggestions



Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 08:31
Probably not prog, but I just ran acrossed this free download on Amazon called Native American Flute Lullabies.  http://www.amazon.com/Native-American-Flute-Lullabies/dp/B005BYUQ68/ref=sr_shvl_album_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336397422&sr=301-1" rel="nofollow - http://www.amazon.com/Native-American-Flute-Lullabies/dp/B005BYUQ68/ref=sr_shvl_album_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336397422&sr=301-1

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Posted By: Lima96
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 23:17
Hey, America are three whole freaking continents, not just a large-sized country in the northern part!

Considering this, there is plenty of native american influenced prog. You should check:

Los Jaivas (Chile)
(Seen here playing in Macchu Pichu, like a south-american experience of what Pink Floyd did in Pompeii)



Arco Iris (Argentina)


Flor De Loto (Perú)



Wara (Bolivia)



Sikus Bolivia (Bolivia)






Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: May 07 2012 at 23:39
Steve Walsh's Glossolalia. Also, I always thought some of the melodies and chords sounded tribal in a native american way on Death's last album. A Story To Tell in particular:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02n4kKLUC4k" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02n4kKLUC4k

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 08 2012 at 11:57
Hi,
 
There are a couple of them that I can think of, but in general, I imagine that they are considered "world music" a lot more than they will be considered "progressive" ... but the mixes are outstanding.
 
Tulku -- is magnificent.
Little Wolf Band -- also magnificent
 
Both of these come from the same group of folks, that I think had the idea of expanding American Indian music and traits into other disciplines and help spread its own taste. I find Tulku's first CD tops and is one that is impossible for me to not remember or enjoy at any time, and while it is hard to not think there is a side of it that is spiritual, for the most part I would think that ... how can you hide your inside on what you play?
 
There are way too many things mentioned here that don't fit, I do not think. But Buffy Saint Marie probably should be mentioned as she has been a part of that tradition for a long time, but her medium is folk, not rock, for the most part, in the stuff that I remember and have heard.
 
One last one, and it is not something that most folks here typically enjoy ... but Hawkwind, for all intents and purposes has twice shown its inclinations ... and one was an album named that ended with ... you got it ... an electric powow! The last cut of "Electric Tepee" really tells you every thing you need to know about this band. On their album "Space Bandits" they have an American Indian elder speaking and it is made to an unbelievably good use and mix, that even rockers can not appreciate, and I would say ... that American Indians should be proud that their heritage is appreciated by folks that usually do not know a whole lot about it, but appreciate the meaning of the words and its application! The Elk Speaks piece is magnificent, and we should never give a damn if it is progressive or not, lest we're too damn cynical to simply appreciate music, and hte many different things that can be done with it!
 
By comparison, you will find a listing of bands that play "aborigene rock" in Australia, a lot more than you will in America!


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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: May 08 2012 at 22:16
Pretty sure the singer in the early Fates Warning albums is native. I could be imagining this

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Posted By: Mr. Maestro
Date Posted: May 08 2012 at 22:23
Kansas does indeed have some Native American influences.  Take this song, for instance:
 


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