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Topic: Kate Bush - 50 Words For Snow
Posted By: Finnforest
Subject: Kate Bush - 50 Words For Snow
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 15:35
What's your favorite Kate snow story???Smile

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 15:38
I hear this album is pretty good.

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 15:41
Damn, you reminded me I haven't played that one enough.  Probably because we still haven't had a snow day yet in my neck of the woods.  For now the opening track. Big smile

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 15:44
Originally posted by Snow Dog

I hear this album is pretty good.


You hear right.  Cool


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 15:48
The line "the world is so loud", on a snow day it seems eerily quiet when you go outside.  We have ice storms about as often.  You hear the crackling of limbs breaking off trees.


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 15:50
Originally posted by Slartibartfast

The line "the world is so loud", on a snow day it seems eerily quiet outside.


It is so completely effective, the whole track.  Few albums pull you to the theme as quickly and successfully.


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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 15:51
I could easily say that it's the 50 Words (for many reasons; even for having Stephen Fry in it), but Snowflake and Tahoe waft me senselessly. I may listen to it again and decide. 

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 15:59
In some places snow is often regarded as a nuisance around here it is a gentle thing, reminds of a Genesis song:
"Within the valley of shadowless death
They pray for thunderclouds and rain
But to the multitude who stand in the rain
Heaven is where the sun shines" 

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 16:08
Gotta go with your pick Slart, with Wild Man a close 2nd.  

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 18:03
Only two votes so far and three commentators.  Sad.

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 18:34
No doubt.  In my book a better album than Swilsons, but will surely lose to it.  Unhappy

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 21:40
While crossing the Lhakpa-La...That part is totally mesmerizing.

Wild Man for me, followed by 50 words.

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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 21:41
I can't choose. Haven't listened enough times yet. In time though.

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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 21:56
"Wheeler Street", with Mr Sir Elton John, is quite wonderful!

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 21:59
Originally posted by Barbu

While crossing the Lhakpa-La...That part is totally mesmerizing.
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Indeed!!  It's incredible how it pulls the image of the creature to your mind.  I get the strangest vibe from that song.


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 22:01
Originally posted by infocat

"Wheeler Street", with Mr Sir Elton John, is quite wonderful!


Don't know if you read this, but Kate said he strolled into the studio and laid it down in one session without any prior knowledge of the song.  Pretty impressive vocal. 


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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 22:09
Overall, Wild Man. Misty is incredibly good too. Well I guess they all are. Among Angels hasn't hit me as hard yet...

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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 22:10
Originally posted by Finnforest

Originally posted by infocat

"Wheeler Street", with Mr Sir Elton John, is quite wonderful!


Don't know if you read this, but Kate said he strolled into the studio and laid it down in one session without any prior knowledge of the song.  Pretty impressive vocal. 

That's also my choice. I terribly fell in love with it (I fell in love with the whole album, actually, but this song is my top)
followed by Snowflake.


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 22:17
The album has a great make-up....the first three tracks very slow, brooding, needing some patience to let it envelop you....after nearly a half hour of that you get three more active songs.....then another soft, slow nightcap to finish.  

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 22:33
^ Great review, btw, Jim

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Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 22:40
I've been hearing a lot about Kate Bush lately. Any suggestions for the unitiated? Also, keep in mind that I'm a prog fan, I can handle a 'difficult' listening experience, so don't think I'll be scared off by a denser album as opposed to the more accessible one!

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 04:54
Originally posted by Zombywoof

I've been hearing a lot about Kate Bush lately. Any suggestions for the unitiated? Also, keep in mind that I'm a prog fan, I can handle a 'difficult' listening experience, so don't think I'll be scared off by a denser album as opposed to the more accessible one!


Her different eras sound quite different, but since you like difficult, her densest and most challenging album is "The Dreaming" probably.  Early stuff is more 70s rock, later stuff more dreamy and mellow.  Generally, of course.


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 06:21
I'll second The Dreaming.  That was my first encounter.  Weird wild stuff.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 06:45
50 Words for Snow is imho her best album. This is a close call between five tracks, but Misty is my favourite.

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 12:03
Originally posted by Barbu

^ Great review, btw, Jim
Thanks man!!

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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 12:07
I know I love it but I got it for Xmas and just haven't listned to it anywhere near enough yet - plus we have had NO SNOW aaagh. 
 
Anyway
 
My Kate Review
 
Bowdown Cool Bowdown 


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 12:13
Originally posted by someone_else

50 Words for Snow is imho her best album.
 
 
My Kate preference order is somewhat bizarre to most.  The order of the middle 3 is somewhat mobile.
 
Kick Inside
Lionheart
Dreaming
50 Words
Never For Ever
Red Shoes
Hounds
Sensual World
Aerial


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Posted By: PolarWolf
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 14:31
I've listened to 50 Words For Snow for a while now and I think it's great. The first three songs are wonderful, atmospheric winter songs. Needs to be listened with headphones and eyes closed. The Elton John duet is quite powerful, too. I didn't like the title song at first, but it's getting better by every listen.
I don't know Kate's other albums well, only a few songs here and there, but I've always loved her voice.



Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 17:04
50 Words is a bit too new for me to rank amongst albums I have known for many years.  I still put Hounds at the top.  But I know Finn likes her first two much more than I do and I like Aerial more than he does. LOL

50 wouldn't be a bad starting point for sure.


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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 17:36
Originally posted by Finnforest

Originally posted by someone_else

50 Words for Snow is imho her best album.
 
 
My Kate preference order is somewhat bizarre to most.  The order of the middle 3 is somewhat mobile.
 
Kick Inside
Lionheart
Dreaming
50 Words
Never For Ever
Red Shoes
Hounds
Sensual World
Aerial
 
Quite different from mine anyway. I haven't heard Aerial yet, Sensual World and Hounds are #2 and #3 in my book, The Dreaming has two sides (I heard it once long ago, but I remember I preferred side 2 far above side 1) and I gave Red Shoes (5 good songs vs 7 that turn me off) a 2 star rating.


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 19:43
Originally posted by PolarWolf

I didn't like the title song at first, but it's getting better by every listen.

It is deliberately a little silly.  I like number 50 the best. LOL


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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 23:37
Plenty of snow in this neck of the woods for the high priestess to have her new album spun
In this order
Snowflake
Snowed In Ar Wheeler Street
Among Angels
Wild Man
Lake Tahoe
50 Words For Snow
Misty
 
I have one small criticism for this album and was wondering if anyone else shares this view....I find certain choruses/lines so damn hard to not repeat and repeat long after the album has ended. No other Bush album foes this except maybe " Kick Inside'
 
Overall a cracking good album


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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 02:14
^^ A cracking good album indeed, Chris S. It is hard to pick an individual track, from what I perceive to be a concept album. I went for the slightly weird, "Misty", with it's dream-sequence lyrics and rather controversial subject matter. 
The whole album is beautiful musically, and calls for a quiet moment with the head-phones. I personally think this is Kate's best album yet.


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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 02:15
Originally posted by memowakeman

Originally posted by Finnforest

Originally posted by infocat

"Wheeler Street", with Mr Sir Elton John, is quite wonderful!


Don't know if you read this, but Kate said he strolled into the studio and laid it down in one session without any prior knowledge of the song.  Pretty impressive vocal. 

That's also my choice. I terribly fell in love with it (I fell in love with the whole album, actually, but this song is my top)
followed by Snowflake.

I'm going with this too, Wheeler Street followed by Snowflake. I have to listen to it more, though, to have something to say on the rest of the tracks.


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 03:02
Originally posted by Slartibartfast

I'll second The Dreaming.  That was my first encounter.  Weird wild stuff.
basically she became the female equivalent of Peter Gabriel at that time. Great stuff apart from the dodgy Aussie accent on the title track!
 
My favourite is Hounds Of Love. Covers all the bases and immaculate in every single sense (song,performance and production)


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 03:04
I'll vote for the title track then if no one else willLOL


Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 03:19
Anyone who puts Aerial (or Snow for that matter) at the bottom of their list of Kate albums needs to get some serious help.  (Or Cotton Buds).  Shocked

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 03:37
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage

Anyone who puts Aerial (or Snow for that matter) at the bottom of their list of Kate albums needs to get some serious help.  (Or Cotton Buds).  Shocked
 
its all a matter of taste. Aerial doesn't really hold together well as complete thing in my book although I do love the individual songs which is why I would rank it higher. I think his list is looking at her albums in a different way. Thats cool.


Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 03:43
Originally posted by richardh

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage

Anyone who puts Aerial (or Snow for that matter) at the bottom of their list of Kate albums needs to get some serious help.  (Or Cotton Buds).  Shocked
 
its all a matter of taste. Aerial doesn't really hold together well as complete thing in my book although I do love the individual songs which is why I would rank it higher. I think his list is looking at her albums in a different way. Thats cool.
 
I know Smile One day you'll see the error of your ways! Big smile


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 04:16
I may have to get my hands on Kate's Bush one of these days. 
Never bought an album of hersEmbarrassed 
Think I'll start at one end and see what's what. I seem to remember being recommended a kick inside by Jim. No karate ones this time pal!


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 06:17
Originally posted by richardh

basically she became the female equivalent of Peter Gabriel at that time. Great stuff apart from the dodgy Aussie accent on the title track!

I meant to mention how that album is sort a cousin of PG III (Melt).  I haven't read about it anywhere but I think it may have inspired her to go weird and dark with The Dreaming because it really was a radical change in musical direction.


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 07:49
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage

Anyone who puts Aerial (or Snow for that matter) at the bottom of their list of Kate albums needs to get some serious help.  (Or Cotton Buds).  Shocked


Nonsense, it means only that I enjoy her other albums more.

What's your last place Kate album, Mr Music taste Judge? Tongue


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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 08:02
Originally posted by Finnforest

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage

Anyone who puts Aerial (or Snow for that matter) at the bottom of their list of Kate albums needs to get some serious help.  (Or Cotton Buds).  Shocked


Nonsense, it means only that I enjoy her other albums more.

What's your last place Kate album, Mr Music taste Judge? Tongue
 
Well Mr Cloth Ears. Wink
 
  Of course you're right, as only you could be.  I don't have a last place KB album I just love Aerial so much I cannot see it as being less enjoyable than all the rest. 


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 08:09
Oh come now mate, that's a dodge.  If you made a Kate list, there has to be one at the bottom.....even if you like all of them, you're going to like the others more than the final entry on your list.  Wink

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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 08:47
Originally posted by Finnforest

Oh come now mate, that's a dodge.  If you made a Kate list, there has to be one at the bottom.....even if you like all of them, you're going to like the others more than the final entry on your list.  Wink
 
Ermm Still thinking!  hmmm now how shall.......
 
I know
 
1 Aerial
2 Sleepy  zzzz


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 09:00
I was considering doing my personal ranking but I can't.  Oh what the hell but I'm putting stuff on tiers: LOL
Top to bottom:
The Dreaming, Aerial, Hounds Of Love
Never For Ever, 50 Words For Snow, Sensual World
The Red Shoes, Lionheart, The Kick Inside

Nothing set in stone at all.




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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 09:06
Originally posted by Finnforest

Oh come now mate, that's a dodge.  If you made a Kate list, there has to be one at the bottom.....even if you like all of them, you're going to like the others more than the final entry on your list.  Wink
 
I honestly don't have a poor Kate Bush album....how good is that?


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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 09:08
50 Words for Snow is the only KB I heard. Exclamation

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 09:16
Originally posted by Chris S

Originally posted by Finnforest

Oh come now mate, that's a dodge.  If you made a Kate list, there has to be one at the bottom.....even if you like all of them, you're going to like the others more than the final entry on your list.  Wink
 
I honestly don't have a poor Kate Bush album....how good is that?



OK, knowing Kate fans, I should have said.....if you could only take 8 Kate albums to the desert island, which one would you leave behindWink

In any case, I should not have sidetracked this into an album list thread...sorry.  Forget the lists, let's get back to SNOW!!  Smile


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 09:19
  1. The Dreaming
  2. Hounds Of Love
  3. Never For Ever
  4. Aerial
  5. The Kick Inside
  6. Lionheart
  7. The Sensual World
With Sensual world being easily in last place

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 09:23
Originally posted by Finnforest



In any case, I should not have sidetracked this into an album list thread...sorry.  Forget the lists, let's get back to SNOW!!  Smile

Alright then, why no love so far for Lake Tahoe and Among Angels? LOL


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 09:25
Originally posted by Slartibartfast

Originally posted by Finnforest



In any case, I should not have sidetracked this into an album list thread...sorry.  Forget the lists, let's get back to SNOW!!  Smile

Alright then, why no love so far for Lake Tahoe and Among Angels? LOL



I love both, Lake Tahoe especially.  Those two and Misty are the "deeper" tracks which will reveal their greatness over time.  When first hearing the album, the "catchier" songs grab onto you, stuff like Tahoe sinks in later perhaps.  Just a theory. 


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 09:26
Originally posted by Snow Dog

  1. The Dreaming
  2. Hounds Of Love
  3. Never For Ever
  4. Aerial
  5. The Kick Inside
  6. Lionheart
  7. The Sensual World
With Sensual world being easily in last place
 
thats pretty close to how I would rank them but would probably switch 1 and 2 round and also 6 and 7 round.Lionheart is not as 'cohesive' a work as SW imo.
 
As Chris suggest though they are at least good
 
Need more time to decide where 50 Words For Snow should be . At the moment my gut feeling is 4 or 5.


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 09:55
Originally posted by Chris S


 
I have one small criticism for this album and was wondering if anyone else shares this view....I find certain choruses/lines so damn hard to not repeat and repeat long after the album has ended. No other Bush album foes this except maybe " Kick Inside'
 
 


Certainly happens to me too with this album, but it also happens for me on most her albums.  Kate plays often in my head for days after playing an album. 


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 19 2012 at 07:02
She may be in your house.  Slam the door.  Lock it up.  Clean the stains away.  Tongue
This house is 10 years older than I am. Shocked

"I will not let you in!
Don't you bring back the reveries.
I turn into a bird,
Carry further than the word is heard."


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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: February 20 2012 at 13:06
Lovely album. Enjoyed it very much, but haven't really taken the time to dig deeper yet. I need to listen to it more before I can single out favourites.  

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Posted By: Wilcey
Date Posted: February 21 2012 at 13:22
I voted for Wheeler Street...... although to be really really honest I don't like Elton's voice on this, it's too much for this song. I love the song though, it's really moving and thought provoking. 

My fav KB album though?  I gotta say I'm still loving Aerial the best.   I haven't listened to this one enough though, although I'm enjoying it it's not my fav from her.  Always top quality from Kate though. 


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 22 2012 at 12:41

The enjoyment of Kate Bush's music seems to mostly elude me, but I won't give up.  I guess that I just haven't found the right mindset yet.   In regards to the poll question, I went with Wild Man, which is a song off of here that I do enjoy. 



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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 22 2012 at 18:18
Wot?  You don't like Kate's music???  Get him!!! AngryLOL

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 07 2013 at 11:45
Originally posted by someone_else

50 Words for Snow is imho her best album. This is a close call between five tracks, but Misty is my favourite.
 
It is, by very far, one of the best things I have ever heard by anyone.
 
I particularly love her disdain for "format" in this album and just let the words and the music carry it away ... and I have not found a moment where I was bored, or tired of it yet ... and have listened to it several times in a row ... more than once already.
 
Also spectacular is Steve Gadd's touch on the drums to help accentuate things ... and it makes any "progressive" drummer look like a cheap and worthless metronome!


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 07 2013 at 11:59
I adore it, but am saving it as a special "winter" experience.  I'll play it once or twice a year when snow is falling, and when I have time to sit there and really listen, then put it away till next time.  The magic isn't there on a hot August dayWink


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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: April 07 2013 at 13:20
Snowing again up here, 50 words softly playing...


...Phenomenal Lake Tahoe.

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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: April 07 2013 at 21:44
Kate is sexy!

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 15:01
As good in July as it is in February.

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Posted By: the lighthouse keepe
Date Posted: August 26 2013 at 08:46
Kate Bush.Her worst album,and in my top 10 of worst albums I've ever had the mis-fortune to hear.


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 26 2013 at 14:36
Hi,
 
I can't vote for a favorite song ... for me the album is not a bunch of songs ... it's a magnificent stream of conssiousness, and beautifully done.
 
I could stand, at a party, and just read the poetry, and let it flow ... or publish it in a book ... and people would think that this is beautiful wording and work ... but in a place like this, it is totally wasted as just a song with lyrics!
 
Such a bummer!
 
Reducing this to "songs", is really sad ... and demeans, one of the most progressive albums I have heard in years ... but we can only hear songs and formats ... not music, anymore. We don't even know ... what music is anymore, unless it is, or sounds like, everything else!
  
How sad ... because this is, by far, the best album I have heard in the last 10 years. Djam Karet-Herd of Indentity get the 2nd nod by less than a millionth of an inch!


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 27 2013 at 07:36
Snowflake is my favourite song from this collection of songs.

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