So, what bands write fugues? I can't find ANY as I search the net. It's depressing.

 

 

Also, what bands layer counterpoint so much that reviewers HATE them. I'm talking something like Bedlam and Goliath by The Mars Volta, but MORE notes and MORE noise. The Mars Volta is my favorite band, but I want find something more hectic, more complex, and just crazier in general.

 

Birds and Buildings sorta comes to mind on the compositional side of things, but they aren't quite heavy enough or confusing enough to fully satisfy my urge.

Jean-Louis does me right on crazy, complex, and whatnot, but I want there to be more layers of instruments. Maybe something RIO/Avant with so much going on that everyone you know complains about it. Henry Cow but heavy.

Kayo Dot but more confusing. Koenjihyakkei but even more crazy. Banco Del Mutuo and the other heavy crazy RPI bands like Cervello but I desire MORE.

 

Also, yes, I doubt that this sorta deal exists but that's why I ask you guys!

Something like this?

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Don't really know what else to recommend, everything else I thought of you seem to already have covered. Only other thing I could think of would be Ruins, but if you listen to Koenjihyakkei I imagine you already know them? If not, maybe search them out.

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...Which reminds me of another incredibly amazing and obscure american symphonic prog band: Hands

 

Probably not "progressive" in the way we look at it ... but you really want to take a look at Keith Jarrett playing around jazz licks and other bits in a couple of places in Europe ... your fugue just got fugued and is now on fire!

Heck .. Amon Duul 2 was unreal in Yeti and Dance of the Lemmings when it comes to "counterpoint" ... you get Renate going left, the guitar going right and everyone going their own direction ... maybe even the folks in

 

But the academics in England also did a lot of work in the counter point "era" in rock music in the 70's ... I always thought that Art Bears and the like were about a lot of counterpoint, although it probably should be considered pure experimentation, rather than "counterpoint" that tends to suggest that music is actually involved -- and in some cases, in those days ... it was NOT about the music as much as actually trying it out! And this was certainly the case in many other arts around music ... music being the one art that thinks that no one else can do that with probably because of its limitations on the western scale design, and no one coming up with instruments that do not abide by those rules at all -- in the hope that some new sounds and works can be done.

 

I actually thought that synthesizers would do this, since it was a new sound ... but the commercial mentality has killed this instrument and made it replace the orchestra instead. And we (basically) lost another instrument that could provide a different counterpoint to any melody or piece out there ... sadly so!

That's probably the best explanation on wikipedia as to why counterpoint works.

 

 

 

And I like a lot of these bands but I still kinda want something heavier or crazier. I am wanting to be as gotdang adventurous as possible musically. I want to hear new worlds. (But not quite like Joel Meek)

A string quarter tribute to Gorguts Obscura or imagine if that album was played normally with the band, but they also had a saxophone player and keyboard player all doing something on top of that. I want to hear the Sebastian Bach of the future here. Maybe even straight new age maximalist composition.

 

I want to be confused by the end of each song that I am unable to continue on. I want the music to make me think so hard that I get a headache. I want to swirl into a deep ecstasy of complexity.

 

Listen to Beethoven's Grosse Fugue. More like that. haha

Cynic & Unexpect, complex and at the same time heavy

Can I quote that?

 

 

3-Dimentional Surrealism ... Escher! ... woootttt .... I think Luis Bunuel fits! Music? ... no one!

I would never have claimed it as my own.

Classic Genesis had quite a few of these too.

Funnily ELP, as classically influenced as they were had less of this type of counterpoint, but they explored more the actual fugue pattern like in The Only Way or Trilogy's Fugue.

 

A Fugue is a more specific musical figure in which a melodical pattern is repeated starting in different beats of the bar, or in the next bar, creating a complex harmonic soundscape. Indeed ELP's The Only Way or Trilogy's Fugue are examples of it.

 

In a more modern environment, Yes's 91205 has some great counterpoint parts.