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Discipline or Indiscipline?

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Topic: Discipline or Indiscipline?
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Subject: Discipline or Indiscipline?
Date Posted: March 07 2012 at 16:53
I've been listening to this album a lot lately and it's quickly becoming one of my favourite King Crimson albums. Some really great stuff on here like The Sheltering Sky, Frame By Frame and Elephant Talk. It's up there with In The Court, Larks' Tongues and Red, in my opinion. My vote goes to Indiscipline because of Bruford's frantic drumming and Adrian's soaring guitar.

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Posted By: Capt Fongsby
Date Posted: March 07 2012 at 17:39
Without a doubt:   

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 07 2012 at 17:40
Dicipline for me, indicipline is too indiciplined (chaotic).


Posted By: JonteJH
Date Posted: March 07 2012 at 17:40
Im in for  Indiscipline

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 07 2012 at 18:19
Both great. Indiscipline greater.

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Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: March 07 2012 at 18:59
Indiscipline, and especially the live version on the Absent Lovers CD...

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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: March 07 2012 at 19:08
Indiscipline by far.

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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: March 07 2012 at 19:14
Indiscipline is the closest the '80s band came to sounding like the '72-'74 band.

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 07 2012 at 19:20
Indiscipline: I Like It!

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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 07 2012 at 21:21
Indiscipline---it is also my favorite KC for overall consistency---


Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: March 07 2012 at 21:43
No matter how much I tear down Indiscipline, or how much I break it down, it remains consistent.

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Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: March 07 2012 at 22:46
Was actually discussing this a few days ago ... "Indiscipline" all the way for me. Its counterpart is too repetitive, and too orderly for my tastes. Both great songs, but I prefer "Indiscipline" by a mile.

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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 00:16
Discipline without hesitation. 

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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 01:45
Originally posted by Neu!mann

Indiscipline, and especially the live version on the Absent Lovers CD...

wise words Beer


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 03:48
Discipline, as it's all a matter of self-containment and focus on the control of the energy.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 04:08
Discipline is actually a very good track with its intricate minimalistic patterns. Indiscipline is all about Bruford's drumming skills but - to put it in an explicit way - the junkish bullsh*t talk is too irritating for my sensitive ears.

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 04:38
You don't need to choose, just fire up a couple of media players on your computer and play them at the same time.  Just be sure to stress yourself out and repeat.


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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 06:11
One of my favorite Crimson albums. Indiscipline gets the vote, but I also really like Discipline. 


Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 09:33
Indiscipline

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 20:46
Originally posted by someone_else

Discipline is actually a very good track with its intricate minimalistic patterns. Indiscipline is all about Bruford's drumming skills but - to put it in an explicit way - the junkish bullsh*t talk is too irritating for my sensitive ears.

I actually find it kind of funny in some parts like at the "I repeat myself when under stress" section. The odd timed bass behind the vocals just make it so abstract and captivating, it's great. I like it!


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 20:48
Originally posted by akaBona

Originally posted by Neu!mann

Indiscipline, and especially the live version on the Absent Lovers CD...

wise words Beer

Oh yeah! I love that version as well! Clap


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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 20:52
Indiscipline


Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 20:53
Indiscipline (I repeat myself when under stress).


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 09 2012 at 04:14
Originally posted by ole-the-first

Indiscipline (I repeat myself when under stress).


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 09 2012 at 04:56
Sympathy vote for Discipline sympathy vote for Discipline sympathy vote for Discipline sympathy vote for Discipline Tongue

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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: March 09 2012 at 13:55

I love both from this, my favorite, King Crimson album. IMHO, this album--and in particular, this song--did more to re-shape and re-energize the 'progressive' in music than any since the 67-74 glory years and may even have paved the way for  the advent of both the "Tech Extreme Metal" and "Post Rock/Math Rock" subgenres.

"Discipline" is so amazing to try to get your head into: I'm Fripp! I'm Belew! I'm Levin! What do I play?!!!!



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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 11 2012 at 01:45
Discipline, hands the freak down! I prefer elaborate guitar interplay over the messy and just plain-weird avant-garde drumming that's beyond me, but only in the overall approach, not complexity.


Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: March 11 2012 at 03:29
Indiscipline

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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 11 2012 at 11:35
Indiscipline is a real monster, the song is so powerful. 

Discipline on the other hand, bores me. Ermm


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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: March 11 2012 at 12:58
I choose "Indiscipline".

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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: March 12 2012 at 07:14
Discipline by a nose.

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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: March 12 2012 at 13:50
Indiscipline.

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