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Topic: Best of Scott Walker playlistPosted By: Dayvenkirq
Subject: Best of Scott Walker playlist
Date Posted: March 11 2012 at 03:40
I'm not a big fan of Scott Walker, nor do I think I'm a small fan of his. However, I do really like quite a few of his songs or just, at least, songs that he sung.
This is his playlist of my favorites (not listed in any particular order 'cause it doesn't need any ):
EDIT - Latest update:
Alone
Jackie
The World's Strongest Man
Make It Easy On Yourself
Too Young
Big Louise
Such A Small Love
My Death
Tilt
Farmer in the City
Cossacks Are
Psoriatic
If you happen to be one of those loonies who likes Scott, please share your opinion.
Replies: Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: March 11 2012 at 18:03
Hm... I like him but not love him, he can be emotionally straining if not listened to at the right time, but he's got a great voice. Right now I only have the "No Regrets"-Compilation left in my collection, so apart from one track that never left my memory the songs all come from that one:
No regrets If you go away Track ( ? used to own "Climate of Hunter" but can't remember the number, it starts with the line "Delayed in the headlong" ! ) Montague Terrace in Blue & Make it easy on yourself
------------- ...I'm a musician/singer/songwriter, visit me on www.reverbnation.com/rupertlenz and there you can choose from 125 recordings you can listen to ( for free ) if you're not limited to prog-rock !
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 13 2012 at 02:46
rupert wrote:
Hm... I like him but not love him, he can be emotionally straining if not listened to at the right time, but he's got a great voice. Right now I only have the "No Regrets"-Compilation left in my collection, so apart from one track that never left my memory the songs all come from that one:
No regrets If you go away Track ( ? used to own "Climate of Hunter" but can't remember the number, it starts with the line "Delayed in the headlong" ! ) Montague Terrace in Blue & Make it easy on yourself
Never heard any of these. That's weird. Thanks, I'll check them out.
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: March 13 2012 at 05:39
Dayvenkirq wrote:
I'm not a big fan of Scott Walker, nor do I think I'm a small fan of his. However, I do really like quite a few of his songs or just, at least, songs that he sung.
This is his playlist of my favorites (not listed in any particular order 'cause it doesn't need any ):
Alone
Jackie
The World's Strongest Man
Make It Easy On Yourself
Too Young
If you happen to be one of those loonies who likes Scott, please share your opinion.
At last a discussion on Scott Walker, I always admired THAT voice. Have only recently got into him .i.e. in 2010. I have now collected almost everything he has released including all his Walker Brothers releases apart from two 70s LPs that have no been put on CD.
He is just about the only successful commercial artist that sold in (!).....yes he went the other way and made recordings that are so on the edge of music that they are beyond classification.
Of his albums, 1969's Scott 4 is a masterpiece. Of his Avante garde albums, Tilt from 1996 is the one to get. Often been stated as the first album of the 21st century...not OK Computer.
His best pre-art period song?....The Old Man's back again from Scott 4.......listen to the bass lines.....Walker is also a fine bass player.
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: March 14 2012 at 05:35
This says it all........absolute genius
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 05:11
Oh and this "Such A Small Love" from the 1967 album Scott.
Goosebumps all round. Check the orchestration and obviously the voice.
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 05:27
Then there is this; "Farmer in The City" from his1995 album "Tilt".
Now we are starting to get alternative.
But it gets even more alternative (read "weirder") on his 2006 album "The Drift".
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 05:44
To prove how weird it gets here is "Cossacks Are" from "The Drift".
So there you go. From commercial pop to indescribable music in 4 decades.
Frightening stuff. But exciting in the same breath.
I hope a number of you out there in PA land will get hooked.
BTW he should be on PA for his last 3 albums, which incidentally are spread over the last 28 years!
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 13:03
BarryGlibb wrote:
So there you go. From commercial pop to indescribable music in 4 decades.
Frightening stuff. But exciting in the same breath.
I hope a number of you out there in PA land will get hooked.
BTW he should be on PA for his last 3 albums, which incidentally are spread over the last 28 years!
I do not think any of the teams will consider that kind of request seriously. I mean, he sounds a lot like art-rock, but not prog.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 13:31
BarryGlibb wrote:
Of his albums, 1969's Scott 4 is a masterpiece.
Although I agree, I might prefer Scott 3. Copenhagen, Sons of and the one posted underneath are my favorites:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
I do not think any of the teams will consider that kind of request seriously. I mean, he sounds a lot like art-rock, but not prog.
Because of Climate of the Hunter, Tilt and Drift (all worth checking out) he'd fit nicely in Avant Prog
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 13:36
Saperlipopette! wrote:
BarryGlibb wrote:
Of his albums, 1969's Scott 4 is a masterpiece.
Although I agree, I might prefer Scott 3. Copenhagen, Sons of and the one posted underneath are my favorites:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
I do not think any of the teams will consider that kind of request seriously. I mean, he sounds a lot like art-rock, but not prog.
Because of Climate of the Hunter, Tilt and Drift (all worth checking out) he'd fit nicely in Avant Prog
YouTube is doing such a poor job finding some tracks off of Climate of Hunter. Could you please send some links for the proggy tracks on those three albums so that the teams could take a look at them?
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 19 2012 at 04:25
He's been suggested and rejected before, I think. I disagree with the decision though. I only have Climate of the Hunter on vinyl.
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 19 2012 at 08:49
I'm 'interested' in learnign more about Scott Walker. There are Walker Bros tunes I really like, but I understand Scott Walkers stuff can be quite 'challenging' Being a prog fan this naturally gets my attention.
Where do I start? Can someone recommend a Scott Walker album for me. Soemthing that blends beauty with insanity might be good.
------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 19 2012 at 09:26
Blacksword wrote:
I'm 'interested' in learnign more about Scott Walker. There are Walker Bros tunes I really like, but I understand Scott Walkers stuff can be quite 'challenging' Being a prog fan this naturally gets my attention.
Where do I start? Can someone recommend a Scott Walker album for me. Soemthing that blends beauty with insanity might be good.
I presume you've read the recommendations above, so I will remain silent.
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 19 2012 at 09:47
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I'm 'interested' in learnign more about Scott Walker. There are Walker Bros tunes I really like, but I understand Scott Walkers stuff can be quite 'challenging' Being a prog fan this naturally gets my attention.
Where do I start? Can someone recommend a Scott Walker album for me. Soemthing that blends beauty with insanity might be good.
I presume you've read the recommendations above, so I will remain silent.
Yes, and I've read reviews on Amazon, but I can't watch clips, or play audio until I get home from work.
Albums like Tilt and The drift really seem to polarise opinion.
------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 19 2012 at 21:18
Blacksword wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I'm 'interested' in learnign more about Scott Walker. There are Walker Bros tunes I really like, but I understand Scott Walkers stuff can be quite 'challenging' Being a prog fan this naturally gets my attention.
Where do I start? Can someone recommend a Scott Walker album for me. Soemthing that blends beauty with insanity might be good.
I presume you've read the recommendations above, so I will remain silent.
Yes, and I've read reviews on Amazon, but I can't watch clips, or play audio until I get home from work.
Albums like Tilt and The drift really seem to polarise opinion.
I think at this point we can really forget about inducting Scott 'cause one end of his career is pop and, mostly, ripping off Jacques Brel, the other end is triggered with ripping off the dark side of Peter Gabriel on Melt.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 06:19
Dayvenkirq wrote:
I think at this point we can really forget about inducting Scott 'cause one end of his career is pop and, mostly, ripping off Jacques Brel, the other end is triggered with ripping off the dark side of Peter Gabriel on Melt.
If you don't have a clue your opinion is worthless, and you end up looking stupid. So the wisest thing would be to wait to form an opinion until after you know what you're talking about.
^That is really good advice for you. Its useful even outside the PA.
Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 15:47
Dayvenkirq wrote:
I think at this point we can really forget about inducting Scott 'cause one end of his career is pop and, mostly, ripping off Jacques Brel, the other end is triggered with ripping off the dark side of Peter Gabriel on Melt.
I think that's more than just a bit unfair, sorry, and I am not that a big Walker-Fan. Ripping of Jaqcues Brel just by doing very good & emotional cover-versions of his songs ? No. Scott has a unique and very different voice - and is capable of writing extraordinary songs. He also doesn't ripp off Peter Gabriel imo. His output ( since "Climate" ), like it or not, has been a distinctive artistic attempt at creating something new. Luckily he doesn't care about accusations like that - as he doesn't care about sales-figures. He's an artist - a genuine one. The least thing he deserves is respect.
Greets
Roop
------------- ...I'm a musician/singer/songwriter, visit me on www.reverbnation.com/rupertlenz and there you can choose from 125 recordings you can listen to ( for free ) if you're not limited to prog-rock !
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 16:14
rupert wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
I think at this point we can really forget about inducting Scott 'cause one end of his career is pop and, mostly, ripping off Jacques Brel, the other end is triggered with ripping off the dark side of Peter Gabriel on Melt.
I think that's more than just a bit unfair, sorry, and I am not that a big Walker-Fan. Ripping of Jaqcues Brel just by doing very good & emotional cover-versions of his songs ? No. Scott has a unique and very different voice - and is capable of writing extraordinary songs. He also doesn't ripp off Peter Gabriel imo. His output ( since "Climate" ), like it or not, has been a distinctive artistic attempt at creating something new. Luckily he doesn't care about accusations like that - as he doesn't care about sales-figures. He's an artist - a genuine one. The least thing he deserves is respect.
Greets
Roop
I have respect for him. He just reminds me of PG a lot on tracks like "Cossacks Are." And just because I stated that he was copying Jacques Brel doesn't mean I think he did bad. I really like "Alone", for instance.
Also, I sincerely apologize for not being very specific when I was using the word "end". I just meant the spooky stuff on his later records. I do think Scott has an edge of his own on those records, where he uses those weird instruments for percussion.
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 16:21
Saperlipopette! wrote:
If you don't have a clue your opinion is worthless, and you end up looking stupid. So the wisest thing would be to wait to form an opinion until after you know what you're talking about.
^That is really good advice for you. Its useful even outside the PA.
Dayvenkirq wrote:
I do not think any of the teams will consider that kind of request seriously. I mean, he sounds a lot like art-rock, but not prog.
It was not originally my idea to put Scott up for PA. I just wanted to help another fellow member, namely you, with the suggestion.
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 17:48
IMHO I Cannot hear any similarities between Scott Walker and Gabriel (melt album). Walker's voice is baritone which is unusual in itself, Gabriel's voice is much higher in pitch. Their vocal delivery style is also vastly different. Walker's music from the last 3 albums is much more "out there" than Gabriel has ever done. But if one insists that Walker is somehow copying Gabriel I suppose you cannot change people's perceptions.
Walker did not rip off Jacques Brel; he brought Brel's music to the attention of the English speaking public by getting them translated from the original French versions and delivering his own English interpretation.
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 17:57
BarryGlibb wrote:
IMHO I Cannot hear any similarities between Scott Walker and Gabriel (melt album). Walker's voice is baritone which is unusual in itself, Gabriel's voice is much higher in pitch. Their vocal delivery style is also vastly different. Walker's music from the last 3 albums is much more "out there" than Gabriel has ever done. But if one insists that Walker is somehow copying Gabriel I suppose you cannot change people's perceptions.
Walker did not rip off Jacques Brel; he brought Brel's music to the attention of the English speaking public by getting them translated from the original French versions and delivering his own English interpretation.
On rip-off: Thank you for clearing it up for me. It's a good thing you did there. I just took a different meaning of "rip-off" from some other source. No, it was not Wiki.
Similarities: It's not so much the vocal similarities between PG and SW (and there are none), it's the musical approach. They both wanted dark atmospheres. Few of Scott's tracks from his later work are pretty intense, though not as intense as Gabriel's, perhaps.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 03:10
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Few of Scott's tracks from his later work are pretty intense, though not as intense as Gabriel's, perhaps.
Why not listen instead of keeping on guessing? Why bring Peter Gabriel and his Melt-album into the discussion at all? There's no similarities and I'm sure Peter would sh*t in his pants and have a heart attack at 4:48 like the guys in the comment section:
Another one:
BarryGlibb wrote:
To prove how weird it gets here is "Cossacks Are" from "The Drift".
So there you go. From commercial pop to indescribable music in 4 decades.
Frightening stuff. But exciting in the same breath.
I hope a number of you out there in PA land will get hooked.
BTW he should be on PA for his last 3 albums, which incidentally are spread over the last 28 years!
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 11:26
I've heard them all while playing WoW. So far it's a no-go for me. Maybe I shouldn't have been playing WoW . I brought in PG just because I thought few of his and SW's musical ideas sound very similar to me personally. You don't have to agree with me, Saper.
BTW, what's your playlist anyway, now that we are back on the topic? I take it that the videos you've posted is the stuff that constitutes your list, right?
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 19:47
Dayvenkirq wrote:
I've heard them all while playing WoW. So far it's a no-go for me. Maybe I shouldn't have been playing WoW . I brought in PG just because I thought few of his and SW's musical ideas sound very similar to me personally. You don't have to agree with me, Saper.
BTW, what's your playlist anyway, now that we are back on the topic? I take it that the videos you've posted is the stuff that constitutes your list, right?
The three songs from Scott 3 in my first post was sort of my playlist. But it thought of them more as a reccomendation.
I'm not surprised you don't like The Drift. Not at all. I posted those songs to show how absurd your Peter Gabriel comparison was.
As a Scott Walker fan I'm a little offended when you belittle him by writing that he's just ripping off other artists. He respectfully creates his own very personal versions of one of the 20th century's great songwriters (Jacques Brel) and you think of it as ripping off? Did the great jazzsingers rip off Gershwin, Rodgers/Hart and Porter too? Was John Coltrane just ripping off Rodgers and Hammerstein with My Favorite Things?
I don't think of uneducated opinions as something to agree or disagree with. I think of them as irrelevant.
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 23:41
Saperlipopette! wrote:
I'm not surprised you don't like The Drift. Not at all. I posted those songs to show how absurd your Peter Gabriel comparison was.
I suppose you have every right to say that.
Saperlipopette! wrote:
As a Scott Walker fan I'm a little offended when you belittle him by writing that he's just ripping off other artists. He respectfully creates his own very personal versions of one of the 20th century's great songwriters (Jacques Brel) and you think of it as ripping off? Did the great jazzsingers rip off Gershwin, Rodgers/Hart and Porter too? Was John Coltrane just ripping off Rodgers and Hammerstein with My Favorite Things?
Once again, Saper, of all the existent definitions of "ripping off" I picked up the one that did not turn out to be commonplace. If I did offend you in any way, then I sincerely apologize. I did not mean to belittle Scott; after all, I started this thread. Actually, about two days ago I was scouting YouTube and found this video in which Scott was asserting just the very same thing BarryGlibb said above, that he wanted to bring Jacques Brel's songs to the mass attention in England, so that clears it up a bit for me. Again, sorry for the miscommunication. I just want to know if we are good, because if we are not, then I will understand. I also want to apologize for my digression; I just wanted to help you put Scott up for PA again.
Spoiler alert: in that video (2006) Scott said that his new album will come out some time later, and that it's not supposed to take 10-11 years. I believe him .
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 22 2012 at 12:07
No problem. Being a fan, I overreact and make to much of a big deal out of this as well.
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 05:11
OK the original question was a playlist from Scott Walker.
So to start off, here is Mrs Murphy, which is a 1966 song from The Walker Brothers, however Scott should take credit for everything here. In 3 minutes 20 seconds he has created a novel...listen to the lyrics. But the music is epic as well.
Simply brilliant..... could you imagine the Beatles writing something as sexually edgy as this in 1966? Well I suppose they did with Norwegian Wood but this is much edgier. Mrs Murphy is written before the film "The Graduate" but after the novel (1963) so Scott may have read it before he wrote this...maybe. Please listen.......
Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 08:53
I love his old stuff but, despite my best efforts, can't abide anything he's done from Climate of Hunter onwards. I think I read somewhere that he has signed a ten album contract which at his current rate of progress will take him well over 100 years to fulfil!
My Top Ten (including The Walker Brothers):
The War is Over After the Lights Go Out 'Til the Band Comes In Montague Terrace in Blue My Ship is Coming In Next Amsterdam The Girls and The Dogs We Came Through The Old Man's Back Again
------------- "And now...on the drums...Mick Underwooooooooood!!!"
"He's up the pub"
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 22:32
Just updated my list of favorites from Scott:
Alone
Jackie
The World's Strongest Man
Make It Easy On Yourself
Too Young
Tilt
Cossacks Are
Psoriatic
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 04:33
BarryGlibb wrote:
Oh and this "Such A Small Love" from the 1967 album Scott.
Goosebumps all round. Check the orchestration and obviously the voice.
Started really digging that song about ... oh, almost a year ago? Maybe less? Not important.
Really started sinking my teeth into his stuff now that I got his first four albums and the '95 & '06 efforts.