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Topic: Why is PA dying?
Posted By: Failcore
Subject: Why is PA dying?
Date Posted: March 15 2012 at 17:04
It seems like prog is gaining even more steam in the mainstream. So I was just wondering why ppl think this site is languishing and what we could do to improve the community and get the word out. I remember when there would be 1000s of new posts a day. Now it seems lucky if we break 100, discounting the JFF section. Cry

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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 15 2012 at 17:52
Originally posted by Deathrabbit Deathrabbit wrote:

It seems like prog is gaining even more steam in the mainstream. So I was just wondering why ppl think this site is languishing and what we could do to improve the community and get the word out. I remember when there would be 1000s of new posts a day. Now it seems lucky if we break 100, discounting the JFF section. Cry

Maybe it's even better that there are posts as many as 100/day, making it easy on the admins Smile . And I think that some people tend to get tired of prog, some probably think posting had stopped making sense ... ? Or something like that.


Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: March 15 2012 at 17:56
Sometimes people are just busy. I usually post a lot more but damn if this systems analysis and design project isn't completely hindering my free time for the next couple of weeks.

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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: March 15 2012 at 18:01
Seems like I've run out of things to say regarding progressive rock. It really helped me expand my musical tastes but I don't think I'm purely a progger anymore.

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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: March 15 2012 at 18:03
In the last 24 hours, we had posts in 130+ topics, and more than one post in most of them - be careful not to mistake thread count for post count. Apart from that, the days we had over 1000 posts per day occurred in the times the Velvet Room was at it's peak and people organised massive 'band competition polls'- and those weren't the most useful topic when it comes to promoting music. Besides, if you really want to promote prog, the PA database and modern social media sites are more effective means - in general people don't come here to promote music, but socialize with like spirits.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 15 2012 at 18:04
Settled but far from dying. 



Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 15 2012 at 18:08
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

people organised massive 'band competition polls'-
I remember those, what a pain

Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

in general people don't come here to promote music, but socialize with like spirits.
yes I would say, after being a reference source, this is  largely a social experience (music-related of course)
 


Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: March 15 2012 at 18:08
advanced in years ... but far from dying

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 15 2012 at 18:10
Rumours of her demise are greatly exaggerated...Wink

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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 15 2012 at 18:12
Of course, the Shred hasn't quite been the same since Jim stopped posting in it. Cry

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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: March 15 2012 at 18:13
For me, looks like people facing progressive rock have got more sincere and cooled down.

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Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: March 15 2012 at 18:16
you may lose some teeth over the years ... but you don't lose the appetite Smile

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 15 2012 at 20:18
The site's a bit flat at the moment - it comes in waves - sometimes it's busy, sometimes it's not, but there is always activity somewhere. What have we at the moment? - 25 members online while Europe is asleep, early evening on the East Coast - teatime on the West - it's okay, could be better, could be worse... I imagine a lot of college students have projects, asignments and assesments due soon - those finals are getting closer by the day.
 
And I'm not convinced that the prog is finding ground in the mainstream anymore now than it was ten years ago, whatever attention bands like 30 Seconds To Mars and Biffy Clyro are achieving is not being recognised here as Prog.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 15 2012 at 20:27
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

And I'm not convinced that the prog is finding ground in the mainstream anymore now than it was ten years ago,
nor am I; I do think it may be more popular, or of mild interest, to young and old, but the 'mainstream interest' seems about the same as it was a decade ago, which is to say deliciously tenuous.




Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 00:43
I haven't really noticed to be honest.


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 02:41
JFF has outpaced the rest of the forum for a long time, but if such a decline is real (I haven't noticed but I haven't been paying attention) I would attribute it to, as Dean said, the lull before the summer, and the fact that the we have been abandoned by the webmaster for 2 years now.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 04:33
JFF is just an indication that people can only say so much about one subject (music) before they start repeating themselves... the only advantage of PA over single-artist forums is that once we've exhausted all we know of one band we can move onto another until all there is left to argue about is "what is Prog" for the gazillionth time, and the fact we have members who like fun.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 04:42
Another reason may be that in it's earlier time as it was gaining in popularity and fresh members were joining there was a feeling of finding a place to at last talk about a music largely reviled. Now PA has perhaps found it's natural plateau. Posts have eased off but are constant. Plus as has been said older members get tried of talking music but hang around in JFF because they like the company and friends they have made here.

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 06:17
I'm going to have to blame it on the libertarians. Tongue

I don't think a drop off in postings or visitations is a sign of dieing.  More like entropy.


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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 12:39
PA is dying? Well, some people should visit other forums where the number post is maybe 10 per day at the maximum.

Just sayin'.


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 13:07
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Seems like I've run out of things to say regarding progressive rock. It really helped me expand my musical tastes but I don't think I'm purely a progger anymore.

This.


Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 13:43
I think this kind of board / forum probably maxed as a form of communication a few years ago. Lots of previously monstrously busy boards I frequented have also slowed way down.
 
Facebook is part of it, the economy is part of it, and the natural equilibrium of limited audience. There was a huge void for many of us that PA filled. But the number of folks who haven't found PA but would totally love it will be exhausted. And once you've tried out all the cool music here you'd never heard of before, what then?
 
And it doesn't feel like it's dying to me.


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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 14:10
All the excitement  that went with hunting down albums back in the mid 16th century is gone with the internet. You can find anything fast and tire of it fast. I think the average attention span has diminished. People have the attention spans of  chimps with all this tweeting, blogging and tevting to people they don't even know. They would rather talk to electronic entities than real live people. It's the age of me, myself and I with facecrap mycrap and other crap. They can't focus on one thing anymore. I guess this affliction has affected this site as well just as it has  other sites. This age of information is going to eat us alive sooner or later

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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 14:28
This is still a very busy forum, certainly compared to, say, Progressive Ears, or (ahem) certain jazz or metal forums.

I enjoy it as much as ever, and, perhaps, sometimes less is more in terms of quality posts and comments.


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 14:58
There are some things you just can't kill. You can't kill oregano either. There'll always be a few in downtown Naples throwing it on their pizza.

Personally I come here for the reviews and the cool people. I certainly won't shed any tears for the lack of voters in the current poll tournaments, or the what's-its-name what is prog - or is Dolly Parton prog, Yes prog, Cantalope melon prog? There are a lot of people here who come for the music, not to ruffle feathers like I've seen a fair deal of - and maybe we're just seeing an increase in content rather than a decrease in posts...
 


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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 15:10
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

All the excitement  that went with hunting down albums back in the mid 16th century is gone with the internet. You can find anything fast and tire of it fast. I think the average attention span has diminished. People have the attention spans of  chimps with all this tweeting, blogging and tevting to people they don't even know. They would rather talk to electronic entities than real live people. It's the age of me, myself and I with facecrap mycrap and other crap. They can't focus on one thing anymore. I guess this affliction has affected this site as well just as it has  other sites. This age of information is going to eat us alive sooner or later


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Well said, Sir!!





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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 16:34
I'm too busy listening to prog Headbanger..........Honestly I am, I have recently added a lot of new audio equipment and that's all I do now....Sit and listen, especially to stuff I have discovered here.....Its brilliant!
 
Back to listening!


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 16:56
The excitement of hunting hasn't died due to having new weapons.  Having said that I do miss the old ways.

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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 16:59
I think it is all the Smoke from the 60's and 70's that is killing PA off.

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 17:07
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I think it is all the Smoke from the 60's and 70's that is killing PA off.

I'm gonna have to blame it on HeadbangerandSax manand Violin

so what the hell?  let's have us some Beer


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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...



Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 17:10
All things tend toward chaos.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 17:19
Entropy isn't what it used to be. Unhappy

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 17:56
In the future this site will be amazingly better than it is now, just wait...SmokeLOLBowdown
All we have to do is implement all the things in the suggestion box....Wink


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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...



Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 20:05
It's my fault.  Any forum that I join starts to go to sh*t the moment I join.




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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 20:19
if this place were clogged with new members and posts we'd be complaining about overcrowding, too many reviews being posted, bad polls, sniping, and the the "good ol' days" when you could just enjoy yourself




Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 20:21
Henry kilt it


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 16 2012 at 22:00
^ I didn't even know he was Scottish


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 00:34
It's because Walter is not here anymore.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 01:32
it might help if we were allowed to post photos of our genitals but nooooo, that would be "inappropriate" or "gross"




Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 02:37
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

This is still a very busy forum, certainly compared to, say, Progressive Ears, or (ahem) certain jazz or metal forums.
 
You´re certainly right about thatWinkTongue

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 08:36
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

it might help if we were allowed to post photos of our genitals but nooooo, that would be "inappropriate" or "gross"




I support this suggestion: let us post photos of our genitals - in case it could make more fangirls join the forum.


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 08:39
 Nevermind the Bollocks, here are the sex pistols.

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 09:00
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

 Nevermind the Bollocks, here are the sex pistols.

Nevermind the Sex Pistols, here are the Bollocks...


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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...



Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 09:10
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

it might help if we were allowed to post photos of our genitals but nooooo, that would be "inappropriate" or "gross"




I support this suggestion: let us post photos of our genitals - in case it could make more fangirls join the forum.


I have enough people pointing and laughing at me as it is.




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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 09:14
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

 Nevermind the Bollocks, here are the sex pistols.

Nevermind the Sex Pistols, here are the Bollocks...
tomatoes, tomatoes.  (hmm contrasting pronunciations doesn't work very well in typewritten form LOL)

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 09:21
genitals > prog

There should be a Genital Archives where we would rate old genitals.


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 09:37
"I've got big balls I've got big balls And they're such big balls fancy big balls And he's got big balls, And she's got big balls, But we've got the biggest balls of them all! "

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Copied from MetroLyrics.com

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 10:14
Giant Genetals!!!

I like big butts...


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 12:56
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

genitals > prog

There should be a Genital Archives where we would rate old genitals.


Collaborator: Neo-genitals team


Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 17:03
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

genitals > prog

There should be a Genital Archives where we would rate old genitals.


Collaborator: Neo-genitals team

I call the Electronic Genitals team position.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 17:27
I call 1st dibs on throwing the switch Evil Smile

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 18 2012 at 02:30
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

genitals > prog

There should be a Genital Archives where we would rate old genitals.
and a link to buy






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