The Wall 2!
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Topic: The Wall 2!
Posted By: trackstoni
Subject: The Wall 2!
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 12:49
Does anyone of You is Expecting the Wall 2 to be released somehow in this decade , joining David & Roger in a last Masterpiece ! and Why ? I Really Do believe they still have the good materials on the hide , and they got the talent to do that !! what do you think !?  ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 12:58
I think:
1. You are one day late for an April Fool's post.
2. We will have peace and intermarring between the Arabs & Jews before this happens.
3. Man will be able to fly to different galaxies by just wearing a kilt and farting for propulsion.
I love Pink Floyd, and I wouldn't mind seeing this happen, but Gilmour is clearly winding-down in his musical life, and after
Rick Wright dying, the break up is final and there is no hope whatsoever in this happening. You never know, and there is always hope, but not is this one single case.
It would be nice though to get:
5.1 mix of The Wall
Concert DVD of the 1980 Wall released finally!
Just these 2 things may take 10 years at the rate that Waters releases stuff...
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trackstoni wrote:Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 13:06
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What would it be? Pink, the traumatic middle aged years? The Wall was an exceptional album and narrative, and should never be tinkered with by way of sequel. Besides, they don't need the money anyway. I'll reserve judgement on TAAB II until I've purchased it. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 13:07
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No. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 13:10
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The Wall 2 was already released. It was called The Final Cut. Whether you consider it a masterpiece, well , YMMV. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 13:20
The Final Cut was not The Wall 2. It was a rant (albeit a very good one) against modern politicians and the futility of war and Thatcherism/Reaganism. It had very little autobiographical content, whereas The Wall was Waters cast as Pink. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 13:33
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Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 13:37
I Love Your Avatar much More Than any other Walls in My life , nicely said if you're a lady , and fairly said if you're a man ! However , i believe it's gonna happen Soon ! Cheers ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 13:46
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 14:35
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Extremely unlikely as a PF album, but following Ian Anderson's flow Waters could write a Wall II all by himself and record it with a bunch of guests.
I don't think it's gonna happen but the possibility exists, if only quantum-mechanically
 And indeed I wonder what the story thread could be, The Wall was quite self-contained.
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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 14:48
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There can't be a "Wall 2", because the original Wall goes on forever. "Isn't this where we came in?" Nuff said. ------------- Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love (Introitus - The hand that feeds you) |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 14:50
How about a prequel then.  |
Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 15:04
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Like what? "The life and death of J.A. Pinkerton"? ------------- Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love (Introitus - The hand that feeds you) |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 18:26
| I would rather like to see them get that last album Rick Wright was working on, and complete it and release it as the las Pink Floyd masterpiece, just as The Beatles did with the last two singles they released in the 90's with Lennon's vocals, or I believe Queen did the same with their last album once Freddy Mercury was gone. Of course, I have absolutley no idea in which state Wright left that last album and if it would fit the idea (plus, I find it extremeley unlikely Gilmour and Waters would be up to the task... though I might imagine Gilmour himself doing it for the Wright family, but not with the Pink Floyd name, nor with the Waters collaboration). |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 18:29
I believe the 5.1 mix of the Wall should already exist within the immersion edition of the reisue campaign, but don't really remember all the details so I may be wrong (I'm almost sure DSotM, and WYWH immersion editions did include the 5.1 mix). As for the DVD of the original Wall concerts... indeed I would really love to see that, and I guess sooner or later it will come to happen; as long as a possible DVD release of the current Wall tour doesn't get in the way (or perhaps it he is waiting in order to release it as a duo pack). |
Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 18:33
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I don't think so. ------------- Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb - Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 18:33
I believe "The Final Cut" was actually created with the leftovers from "The Wall" album... I understand that was one of the conflicts with Gilmour. David would say that, if those songs weren't good enough to be part of "The Wall", then why should be good enough for the new album?. However, there are a few songs that I would really miss if they hadn't been released at all. There are a few songs that I can perfectly imagine fitting into some part of "The Wall" album. |
Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: April 05 2012 at 03:20
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I think it would be no worse than TAAB2 tbh. And as we know TAAB2 is bloody awful -------------  
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Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: April 05 2012 at 04:04
Well it certainly feels like it does... ------------- 
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: April 05 2012 at 09:54
Lo siento mucho, mi amigo, no tienes razon, vete aqui:
http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/albums/pink-floyds-wish-you-were-here-sacd-review-and-interviews-including-james-gu.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/albums/pink-floyds-wish-you-were-here-sacd-review-and-interviews-including-james-gu.html
The record company thought they could extract more money from fans by releasing The Wall box with only 2.0 mixes
then, selling the 5.1 mix later(in a limited box set prolly...)
If you read the article you will learn that the engineer claims there was no time to do a 5.1 mix for the Wall in time for the
Feb 28, 2012 box set release. This is a dubious claim as the Pink Floyd box sets were oficially announced in mid 2011!
Anyway, aparently a problem is that The Wall multi-track tapes have some degradation so that needs to get cleaned up(digitally) before a 5.1 mix can be conducted. No schedule has been offered to date. So nothing happending here until at earliest Christmas shopping 2012.
 I can't freakin wait though, because if there ever was a musical recording that was made for 5.1 it would be The Wall!
Wish You Were Here & DSOTM are breathtaking in 5.1 But I do think The Wall will take 5.1 to a whole new level.
Now, where the heck is YES - Tales From Topographic Oceans in 5.1???
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: April 05 2012 at 11:50
I think that if these events on the album keep happening over and over again, then it doesn't make much sense, at least to me. Maybe Pink is A rock star, not THE rock star; at every iteration we could be introduced to a new person again and again. |
Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: April 05 2012 at 12:26
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This proposal reminds me of psychoderelict, the story about a jaded rock star by Pete Townshend, who at the time was a spent force, as was the Who (despite being only going into their 50s at the time!) That album wasn't very good, but quite Proggy. Very indulgent too. But it did relay the whole aged rock star hiding in his mansion sort of thing. |
Posted By: hobocamp
Date Posted: April 05 2012 at 13:01
There's not enough prozac in circulation to prepare the world for another ninety minute whine-fest. Where is Walter? 
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: April 08 2012 at 01:06
Oh well, too bad. I guess I just didn't remember well enough. Still, I think they should have been more coherent with the "immersion" editions. If they were going to have the 5.1 mixes, then they should all have had them, and if that had to make the album take longer to be released, then they should have taken the time to do so. We are talking about Pink Floyd, and about the most expensive and inclusive version of their albums, so they should have taken their time. Instead, they decided to release it with a previousley released live album (unless I'm mistaken once again, but at least they had originally stated that would be included), and a bunch of demos which, as far as I've heard, are no more than curiosities. From what I've heard of Wall demos, the only one that's good enough for me to want to hear it over and over again, is a demos from "Another Brick in the Wall 1"... and it's not the one featured on the "Best Buy Sampler" cd. |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: April 10 2012 at 09:11
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The Wall 2 is what Roger's writing for Broadway, isn't it? ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 10 2012 at 10:08
Thank you.
I kept saying that a long time ago, and that the original version of the film that was 20 minuts longer had most of this stuff in "The Final Cut" with the exception of 2 new pieces in the album (Not Now John being one!).
It also fit the story really well, as the parent thing fits in with the kid and the basis of the story in "The Wall".
It was cut down because at the time LP's could only do 22 minutes or so comfortably and I still think that this mandated that the film be slimmed down likewise to match the material on the album ... that is my theory.
The Wall 2, btw, should be the more recent version by Roger Waters ... which is still conceptually the same, but is quite updated for today's viewers and should be seen, lest we are so darn vain about our "music values".
My guess is that in about a year's time or so after all the concerts that a DVD will be appearing as there are way too many folks that would have wanted to see this that will never have the chance and it would be a shame to hide this show from the larger segment of the public. I would buy it, even if I saw it! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: April 10 2012 at 10:11
Yes, I agree, The Wall Immersion set is a complete fraud. They are selling us the same thing again.
The 2.0 mix is the same as in the experience set
The 2.0 live mix, I bought already a few years ago, the new "remaster" is no different.
A fan needs to pay 128.00 for some papers and early demo recordings.
That is pathetic.
Hey I wonder if I can sell anybody some used garbage bags, do you think anybody will buy those? ------------- "Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire |
Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: April 10 2012 at 10:16
Wasn't the actor who played the teacher in The Final Cut film? ------------- Continue the prog discussion here: http://zombyprog.proboards.com/index.cgi ... |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 10 2012 at 10:20
I expect The Wall 2 to be released in November 2019. Pink will call himself Grey then.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: April 10 2012 at 10:36
Will there be a song called "9 Feet Underground" on it?  ------------- Continue the prog discussion here: http://zombyprog.proboards.com/index.cgi ... |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: April 10 2012 at 14:51
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Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: April 12 2012 at 18:23
i like that !!!! Cheers ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: April 12 2012 at 18:26
RIGHT and fairly said ! ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: April 12 2012 at 18:34
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A fan needs to pay 128.00 for some papers and early demo recordings.
That is pathetic.
Hey I wonder if I can sell anybody some used garbage bags, do you think anybody will buy those? [/QUOTE]
Yes I will , if they're white ! ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: April 12 2012 at 18:40
Hopefully , i can still witness that , i'm only 57 for God sake ! ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: April 12 2012 at 18:44
Oufffffffff !! Crap , by all means ! don't you ever disrespect Caravan , i'm living in one myself ! ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
Posted By: iamathousandapples
Date Posted: April 12 2012 at 18:45
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Why would anyone want a Wall 2? Especially this late in the game? Has any sequel to any album ever even chipped the lower spots of it's predecessor? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/thamazingbender" rel="nofollow"> 
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