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Topic: New Van Der Graaf Generator album coming in June
Posted By: Man With Hat
Subject: New Van Der Graaf Generator album coming in June
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 02:09
From esoteric:
 
"Following on from A Grounding in Numbers released in March 2011 Esoteric Antenna are delighted to announce a new title with Van Der Graaf Generator--ALT release date 25th June 2012



'ALT' is a new studio album by the legendary VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR and follows on from the release of "A GROUNDING IN NUMBERS" in 2011.

"ALT" is no ordinary Van Der Graaf Generator album (if the term "ordinary" could ever be applied to this visionary group). PETER HAMMILL explains; "Instrumental Improvs & Experiments - Most of the music on "ALT" was made while we weren't really looking, or perhaps only while the left side of our collective brain was engaged. The album is a mixture of improvisations recorded at sound checks and in the studio and more considered sonic creations which often verge on Musique Concrete. The thirteen pieces here offer a fascinating glimpse into an alternative Van der Graaf Generator sound world. Perhaps the closest comparison would be with the second CD of "Present", but even the link with those recordings is tenuous. Even by Van der Graaf Generator standards, this stuff's at the whacky end of the scale!"

This instrumental album is another side of Van Der Graaf Generator, a truly unique listening experience.

The title will come both in CD and limited edition vinyl. "


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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 08:07
The free form nature of disc 2 of Present was a path that I was hoping for they would explore more. It was not quite satisfactory on Present which was more of a conceptual nature. I hope the new release sees them reaching at least the development stage of this new and innovative style. This is the kind of progressive move you don't see often from bands that have been around for 45 or so years.

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 09:16
Interesting....all instrumental? I am not one who has complained about Peter Hamill vocals, I wonder if he feels the pressure from others.
Anyhow....Looking forward to hearing this one.......on VINYL of course.


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Posted By: Riuku
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 09:17
Extremely excited for this, I can't wait.


Posted By: BlindGuard
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 10:16
can't wait!!!!

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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 13:40
Hmmm. I was deeply disappointed with the second side of Present, and also felt that the last one was okay, but certainly no classic.

This might be the first VDGG album I will pass on.


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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 14:01
If free form improvisation isn't something new in itself, it's interesting to see an old and rather classic band trying this kind of experimentations.
There are some bands which should try it, just to see if it could bring them new ideas...


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 14:26
IMO anything different than AGIN is a good avenue for them to explore. Wink

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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: April 18 2012 at 08:58
Originally posted by lazland

Hmmm. I was deeply disappointed with the second side of Present, and also felt that the last one was okay, but certainly no classic.

This might be the first VDGG album I will pass on.

THIS!


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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: April 18 2012 at 12:52
I wanted Hammill to sing. :(

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Posted By: Mladen_Serbia
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 04:06
I was excited for a second because I really liked A Grounding in numbers, but then I realized this is gonna be an instrumental album. And since I've never managed to listen to the second disc of Present, I'm not getting my hopes up. I'll give the album a listen as soon as it appears, though.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 07:23
"Instrumental Improvs & Experiments - Most of the music on "ALT" was made while we weren't really looking, or perhaps only while the left side of our collective brain was engaged. The album is a mixture of improvisations recorded at sound checks and in the studio and more considered sonic creations which often verge on Musique Concrete




That'll be out-takes, then


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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 09:24
Will it have Lady Gaga on it? Tongue

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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 09:43
An instrumental VdGG album is like a a Jimi Hendrix album with no guitar.

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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 09:49
I'll probably pick up a copy.

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 09:50


"What do you mean, we're releasing an album of out-takes to disguise the fact we've run out of new ideas? We're VDGG... someone will buy it!"

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 10:27
Jim, there are better targets than VdGG.

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Posted By: Jozef
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 14:49
I definitely enjoyed the instrumental disc of Present so this is some welcome news. Looking forward to hearing the album.

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 20 2012 at 08:26
Originally posted by lazland

Hmmm. I was deeply disappointed with the second side of Present, and also felt that the last one was okay, but certainly no classic.

This might be the first VDGG album I will pass on.
 
I did not enjoy "Tri-sector" as much as others did.
 
I miss the energy and the strength and the Peter Hammill thing, much more than I do the VDGG thing. When listening to these things, I always endup with Silent Corner, or Over, or Skin, or Out of Water ... and for VDGG stuff I almost always endup with H to He and Godbluff and then Still Life.
 
I don't know ... somehow this later stuff is kind of half empty for me, and not as important as the other stuff was. Too much of it just seems trivial, to the point where an instrumental thing might actually be a good point to try and find some new inspirations. Gotta do something different, and that certainly is! The upside might just be that he can let the guitar, or any other instrument, rip it ... which is harder when he is singing or leading the group!


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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: April 21 2012 at 08:27
I'm kind of interested to hear this, especially to see how it differs from (and, more to the point, if it's an improvement on) disc 2 of Present. Having said that, it's very unlikely to be a priority purchase for me this year, especially as there's still half a dozen albums from last year I still desperately want to get my hands on, let alone this year's batch of definite must-haves.

Still, I think it's very honest and generous of Hammill and co. to bundle these pieces as a deliberately non-essential release, for the curious only, rather than smuggling it in next to composed material as they did on Present.


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Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: April 22 2012 at 01:29
Originally posted by Jim Garten



"What do you mean, we're releasing an album of out-takes to disguise the fact we've run out of new ideas? We're VDGG... someone will buy it!"
 
LOL I think you're misguided (and wrong; AGIN is a great, forward-looking album, as are the recent PH solo discs), but in conjunction with the photo I have to say that it's good for a laugh! Nice one.


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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 23 2012 at 06:32
Originally posted by CPicard

Jim, there are better targets than VdGG.


I'm sure there are, but it's just so disappointing when it looks like one of your favorite bands is about to scrape the barrel.

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 23 2012 at 06:33
Originally posted by bucka001

Originally posted by Jim Garten

"What do you mean, we're releasing an album of out-takes to disguise the fact we've run out of new ideas? We're VDGG... someone will buy it!"

LOL†I think you're misguided (and wrong; AGIN is a great, forward-looking†album, as are the recent PH solo discs), but in conjunction with the photo I have to say that it's good for a laugh! Nice one.


Many thanks - you take the prize for seeing my tongue was (pretty much) firmly(ish) in cheek

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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 02 2012 at 05:41
I just read that the new VdGG album "Alt" will be out in a month. here iswhat peter Hammill says about it:

"Instrumental Improvs & Experiments - Most of the music on "ALT" was made while we weren't really looking, or perhaps only while the left side of our collective brain was engaged. The album is a mixture of improvisations recorded at sound checks and in the studio and more considered sonic creations which often verge on Musique Concrete. The fourteen pieces here offer a fascinating glimpse into an alternative Van der Graaf Generator sound world. Perhaps the closest comparison would be with the second CD of "Present", but even the link with those recordings is tenuous. Even by Van der Graaf Generator standards, this stuff's at the wacky end of the scale!".

sounds as if it will be an extremely strange album


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 02 2012 at 13:50
I'm quite looking forward to it. Sounds like it will be much more up my alley than AGIN.

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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.


Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: June 02 2012 at 14:19
hmmmm interesting. Didn't check out AGIN in numbers... but this sounds interesting.

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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: June 02 2012 at 15:10
I didn't like side 2 of Present very much, nor AGIN...but I will check this out anyways, and hopefully it will be good.

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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 02 2012 at 15:17
I very much liked the 2nd disk of "Present"

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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 13:25
Vdgg have lost all their complexities that made their music hit so hard in my little heart.
 
I miss the days of bombastic, insane, overly complex, dark, evil, depression.


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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: June 20 2012 at 06:57
I don't really mind the sonic experiments by solo PH or in his various collaborations (Roger Eno, Guy Evans), but I do draw the line at such a thing being released as an official VdGG album.

I can mildly tolerate it as CD 2 of Present, but only if I see it as a bonus disk with funny studio outtakes and sqeeky noises. To my mind it flies straight in the face of everything they represent for me, which is extremely intelligent, structured music.

No thanks! The fist VdGG album I won't buy, I think I'll spare myself the disappointment.

File under: "What were they thinking?"


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Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: June 22 2012 at 01:47
Originally posted by npjnpj

I don't really mind the sonic experiments by solo PH or in his various collaborations (Roger Eno, Guy Evans), but I do draw the line at such a thing being released as an official VdGG album.

I can mildly tolerate it as CD 2 of Present, but only if I see it as a bonus disk with funny studio outtakes and sqeeky noises. To my mind it flies straight in the face of everything they represent for me, which is extremely intelligent, structured music.

No thanks! The fist VdGG album I won't buy, I think I'll spare myself the disappointment.

File under: "What were they thinking?"
 
I'll check it out, and it may turn out to be brilliant, but I can respect where you're coming from.


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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 02:15
Whoa, June 25th, thats... thats today!!


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 25 2012 at 02:29
I'm exploding all over the place in anticipation.

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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.


Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: July 02 2012 at 06:39
Anyone here who has heard it? So far itís got a very low rating here at PA. But there are also people who enjoy it:

http://avantmusicnews.com/2012/06/20/amn-reviews-van-der-graaf-generator-alt/" rel="nofollow - http://avantmusicnews.com/2012/06/20/amn-reviews-van-der-graaf-generator-alt/


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