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Topic: Cardiacs
Posted By: smartpatrol
Subject: Cardiacs
Date Posted: May 21 2012 at 23:11
I bought and fell in love with A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window about two weeks ago. I'd like to get in to thier other stuff. So could you post your favorite Cardiacs album describe the songs?

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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 01:36
Frippism will be right with you.


Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 02:29
I only have A Little Man... and Sing to God, both impressive but I have to admit that I can rarely listen to them in a row, they tire me.
 
Indeed Frisppism will give you expert advice. 


Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 03:05
I've got them all and love 'em to bits.
No recommendation, you just can't go wrong with any of their albums.
Their last one (Guns) is supposed to be weaker than the rest, but I don't hear that.
For more details Frippism will probably be happy to help.


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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 14:59
they went more punk but with echoes of Stranglers' psychedelia (especially in the keys), Zappa's humour, and overwhelming choirs. 'On land and in the sea' is a real masterpiece.
 
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Posted By: historian9
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 16:29
Definitely recommend Sing To God, it's an amazing album. They are one of those bands that are pretty consistently good all throughout their career except the last Guns falls a bit flat for me. Also on Sing To God they might not sound as wacky or charming as before, it has a bit of colder and heavier sound. Some recommends from me:

"Songs For Ships And Irons" is a compilation of earlier material and this song from it is fun as hell.

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"Heaven Born And Ever Bright" already has a bit of "Sing To God" feel, not the best album but it's ok.

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And this from "Sing To God", so take your pick but you might like quite a lot of it regardless of the era.

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 18:58
GET THEM ALL RIGHT NOW.  But you should probably check out Sing to God, On Land and In the Sea, and Songs for Ships and Irons next.  StG is the most different of those three from A Little Man... while the other two are pretty stylistically similar. 

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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: May 23 2012 at 15:13
All.

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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: May 23 2012 at 15:31
MEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I'm the expert! Shove off all of you!

Yeah all of them get all of them there's not a single one below great. 

Sing To God is my favorite though- a punky, proggy, but in the end- pop in its most pure form of delight. Also some of the best song writing- pop wise, while still being ridiculously RIDICULOUSLY complex a lot of the time. So yeah. Sing To God.


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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: May 23 2012 at 15:37
And if you really end up loving a lot of Cardiacs music there is almost a whole scene of music that is in the same creative vein as Cardiacs in England like Knifeworld, Thumpermonkey Lives!, etc.


Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: May 23 2012 at 15:49
^ oh yeah totally. Side projects, especially Spratleys Japs (good god they're good) and Sea Nymphs are also an absolute must. Knifeworld's stuff from late has been fantastic! 

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Loveth this song so much, I.


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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: May 23 2012 at 16:11
^ I knew you would show up sometime.


Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: May 23 2012 at 16:19
Well yes yes very busy had to clear up my schedule you know how it is having a PhD in Cardiacsology 

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Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: May 23 2012 at 17:32
Where are you guys buying your Cardiacs?

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: May 23 2012 at 18:28
Originally posted by Zombywoof

Where are you guys buying your Cardiacs?

Only place to get any of their material now which actually benefits the band and good ol' Timmy himself is iTunes at the moment.  Once they're available on CD again, I am going to re-buy the entire catalog, but for now I've got myself some nice, shiny iTunes files to tide me over.


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Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: May 23 2012 at 21:42
Originally posted by SaltyJon


Originally posted by Zombywoof

Where are you guys buying your Cardiacs?
Only place to get any of their material now which actually benefits the band and good ol' Timmy himself is iTunes at the moment.  Once they're available on CD again, I am going to re-buy the entire catalog, but for now I've got myself some nice, shiny iTunes files to tide me over.


Hmmm ... I have family who like to give me Itunes giftcards for birthdays and Christmases. Maybe I'll get some Cardiacs...

I'm a physical product guy, though. I can't display downloads on my shelf!!!

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: May 23 2012 at 21:44
Well right now, the physical products aren't available, like, at all.  Even used.  I've been looking for a while, believe me.  Occasionally you see some of the CDs popping up for $80 or so.  

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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: May 23 2012 at 23:22
Originally posted by Zombywoof

Originally posted by SaltyJon


Originally posted by Zombywoof

Where are you guys buying your Cardiacs?
Only place to get any of their material now which actually benefits the band and good ol' Timmy himself is iTunes at the moment.  Once they're available on CD again, I am going to re-buy the entire catalog, but for now I've got myself some nice, shiny iTunes files to tide me over.


Hmmm ... I have family who like to give me Itunes giftcards for birthdays and Christmases. Maybe I'll get some Cardiacs...

I'm a physical product guy, though. I can't display downloads on my shelf!!!

So am I sorta. I found the seaside for about what would be about 40 bucks (150 shekels). I still bought everything from iTunes. 


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Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: May 24 2012 at 11:17
Originally posted by frippism


Originally posted by Zombywoof

Originally posted by SaltyJon


Originally posted by Zombywoof

Where are you guys buying your Cardiacs?
Only place to get any of their material now which actually benefits the band and good ol' Timmy himself is iTunes at the moment.  Once they're available on CD again, I am going to re-buy the entire catalog, but for now I've got myself some nice, shiny iTunes files to tide me over.


Hmmm ... I have family who like to give me Itunes giftcards for birthdays and Christmases. Maybe I'll get some Cardiacs...

I'm a physical product guy, though. I can't display downloads on my shelf!!!

So am I sorta. I found the seaside for about what would be about 40 bucks (150 shekels). I still bought everything from iTunes. 


I might buy the Itunes download (even though I think $10 is a bit expensive for just files on my computer), because it helps Tim in his recovery. What exactly is the situation with that, anyhow?

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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: May 24 2012 at 15:09
Trust me if knew I'd be so much happier. He's recovering and all... But recoveries from stuff like strokes is slow... And I assume it'll be impossible to recover completely. I'm really not sure about the future of cardiacs :( 


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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: May 24 2012 at 20:52
I tried A Little Man... a couple times and was never able to get into it; it just sounded silly, annoying, and trite to my ears.  But right now I'm listening to Sing to God and enjoying it immensely.  I've always wanted to like them, but it seems that they're just starting to click with me.

Looking forward to listening to the rest of them!  I think I'll try A Little Man... again next.


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 24 2012 at 20:58
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes

I tried A Little Man... a couple times and was never able to get into it; it just sounded silly, annoying, and trite to my ears.


I felt like that at first.  The secret is to not judge the album on RES k


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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: May 24 2012 at 21:02
R.E.S. is (one of?) their best song(s) in my opinion.  

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 24 2012 at 21:05
I know k, and that's why it was the first one I heard

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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: May 24 2012 at 22:26
Well, now that I have an appreciation for Sing to God, I think I will be able to listen to A Little Man... with more open ears.

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Posted By: Queytan
Date Posted: July 04 2013 at 12:04
On Land and in the Sea is a nice midway point between what I've always viewed as the two main Cardiacs phases (though each album definitely has its own personality). As people have said though, buy everything they've done and everything from any band vaguely related to them, and at once become enlightened. I used to think Guns was weak, but after a while it's really grown on me and the whole Americana vibe on it works pretty well. The Garage Concerts are great for their new arrangements of very early material which is otherwise only available on abysmal quality cassette tape recordings. 

In particular, I think The Display Team are a really fantastic Cardiacs-esque band. Drones is an amazing album.


Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: July 04 2013 at 12:23
http://thequietus.com/articles/12737-cardiacs-a-little-man-and-a-house-and-the-whole-world-window-25-anniversary" rel="nofollow - http://thequietus.com/articles/12737-cardiacs-a-little-man-and-a-house-and-the-whole-world-window-25-anniversary


THIS article is amazing. I love it.


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Posted By: Memory Cube
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 20:25
"A Little Man And A House And The Whole World Window" is my personal favorite, though I have yet to hear "Heaven Born And Ever Bright" and "Guns". I would personally recommend "On Land And In The Sea", which was the first album that made me truly like them. "Sing To God" is another good choice.


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: October 26 2013 at 11:01
I noticed Wayside Music just got a bunch of Cardiac recordings in.

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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 26 2013 at 11:42
I got A Little Man and On Land on the albums being rereleased, really enjoying both of them, slightly ahead of Sing To God for me.

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 26 2013 at 13:31
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm

I noticed Wayside Music just got a bunch of Cardiac recordings in.


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brb spending money

edit: ordered On Land And On Sea and that new DVD, as well as some other drillout stuff :)


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