Was revisiting The Ultimate PA Album List - Results!!!
It was mentioned that only 1, had the album on his top album list.

 

I was wondering why, is it because it was a relative new album at the time ?

I think its fantastic, its overwhelming, complex, in a way its a prog genre in its own, a masterfull kick, where it hurts the most.

Was hard to get into at first, its still growing on me, after a lot of listning. Seems to fit together stronger and stronger every time.

 

Just want some opinions on the album, good or bad, as long as You gave it a fair chance.

 

   

I thought Octahedron was a great follow-up to Bedlam, as I really enjoyed the emphasis on their softer side after the chaos of Bedlam.  I especially enjoyed the mellotron .

 

I think both tracks are great !

Anyway i feel no presure listning to more tracks at the time, than what im in the mood of.

Sometimes i just pick 4-5 tracks from an album, other times i play totaly random, other times i dig deep, and listen to a compleete album 2 times in a row, with or without the bonus. ect. ect.

 

 

 

Llyena, Cavalettas, and Goliath are my favorites off of the album.

 

Sure it could be shorter, but i don't think the insanity gets too monotonous.

On to the topic at hand  In my opinion the first half of Bedlam is the best thing they've ever done, but the second hald drags a bit which can make listening to it all in one go a bit of a sonic chore.

That being said it's still a 5* album for me.   

Smurph wrote: Yea dude- Desperate Graves is as punchy as anything of theirs Also, Teflon, and geeeez yea its all pretty amazing.

Luciforms is one of my favourite tracks of all time... Such a fantastic album... Not so sure about the new one though. Bit uninspired in places.

I know you're going to think this is a cheap shot, it's really not intended as one, but all joking aside, you actually do think some objects such as crosses/bibles etc do have special properties that "do things" right? (Or at least you might appreciate that this is how it seems to me.) You might apply this thinking to other stuff and imbue songs, books, colours etc with the power to *make* people do things. You'll have noticed the correlation between fundamentalists and people who believe that heavy metal makes you kill yourself, or that playing Grand Theft Auto trains you to be a criminal, even if you are not one of them yourself.

 

It's a failure to distinguish between imaginary emotional roleplay which we all enjoy doing and do constantly as a source of amusement, and genuine emotional response to factors which are going to affect our physical situation. But then, some people subconsciously need to blend the two together to compensate for gaps in their range of genuine emotional experience.

 

I guess it comes down to how sensitive you are to certain things. For instance, I don't care about the colour of a ceiling. It could be white, it could be green, it could be black, I have no belief that ceiling colours will change me and so I don't register them beyond noticing them. They don't make me feel anything.

But people who are highly sensitive to colour might say something very different in terms of how the colour of the ceiling makes them feel. They would be correct to say it made them feel this way as well, because it actually would.

 

But I think when I listen to serious music, I'm acting. I'm playing a character, exploring the inner depths with this music as stimulus. It's like watching a movie. It isn't genuine sadness/excitement related to my situation so therefore I don't act on it.

 

I'm kind of concerned that you think listening to a song has the same level of reality/importance as an argument with your wife. It quite clearly doesn't or at the very least, shouldn't. Not everything exists on the same plane to your subjective perspective. Through where you direct your mental focus and how intensely, things rise and fall in terms of how accutely you perceive them. If "argument with wife" and "song playing in background" are on the same level at the same time, there's a problem.

 

 

Honestly, its pointless that you guys are fighting over something that Of Illuminati said. He obviously was just throwing around hate speech and attempting to get a rise out of people and your argument just gives him what he wants.

 

Let's agree here, that people see different things differently. I personally believe that music has powers to change attitudes, but it is only in the mind of the people that think those things. If you don't let music change your mood, it won't. If you believe "depressive black metal" has the ability to actually make you depressed, then it will. It is all in your mind.

This is a pretty funny post actually. 

That being said, Ive always felt in my mind that if Deloused was a anxious older brother with the world at his finger tips, and plenty to tell the world, than bedlam is a much younger brother waving his arms shouting loud noises trying desperately for attention.... obnoxious anyone? Don't get me wrong, I found some amazing moments in the album that really speak to me as a TMV fan, but as an album I just couldn't swallow it no matter how I tried.

I keep hearing great things about Noctourniquet, but after Octahedron I'm a little uninspired. Maybe some day :)

  

I do really like all of their albums and next to Genesis, they're probably my favorite prog band.

I'd rate their albums like this:

1. De-loused

2. Octahedron

3. Frances

4. Amputechture

5. Bedlam

6. Noctouniquet

 

1-3 change spots frequently depending on my mood.