The Mars Volta dilemma...
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Topic: The Mars Volta dilemma...
Posted By: MillsLayne
Subject: The Mars Volta dilemma...
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 21:38
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Okay, so I have a question that I was hoping could be answered, although, it's all opinions. What I was curious about with TMV was, I have their first two albums, and quite honestly, I can't get into them. I'm all for chaotic music, but those two albums are just a little much for me. Now, I've heard snippets of their other four albums and I like what I hear. Strange, slowed down, kinda surreal. Is their sound pretty much different in their first two albums compared to the last four? ------------- http://gamercards.exophase.com/xbox/user/MillsLayne/" rel="nofollow">  ht |
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 21:48
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The Bedlam is Goliath is their fourth album and also their most chaotic. Much more so than the first two. Octohedron, their fifth, is quite mellow. I would recommend checking it out. Noctourniquet features a good combination of mellow and heavy moments. -------------  |
Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 21:48
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Their most recent I think would be the most accessible, while still having the trademark weirdness, but they're normally hit or miss. ------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 22:17
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The first 4 albums are more similar to each other, with the chaos and insanity peaking at Bedlam In Goliath. You might be interested in checking out their 2 most recent albums.
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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 22:20
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Yep, check out the new one.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 22:24
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Noctourniquet is the best album of their that isn't really hectic. The accessibility is warm and the songs' quality are much higher than the ones found on Octahedron. If you ease up on Noct. i'd advise returning to Deloused in the Comatorium honestly. If you still can't get into it then Octahedron and Frances are your next two stops. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 23:18
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I liked the first 2. Then their sound started rubbing me the wrong way.
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Posted By: zoviet
Date Posted: July 15 2012 at 12:33
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De-loused was fine, then Frances and the next 2 really put me off, way too much info crammed into the mix till i got a headache hahah i didnt hear Octahedron, but i do like Noctruniquet, just the right balance bet chaos and melody
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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: July 15 2012 at 13:19
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I am the only person on this forum who likes The Bedlam In Goliath. Then again, I'm a bit of a weirdo. ------------- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 15 2012 at 13:21
Bedlam is great, just the complete opposite of what he wants.  ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: July 15 2012 at 13:25
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I like Bedlam too. I listened to it a lot when it came out.
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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: July 15 2012 at 14:39
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Just listen to Frances the Mute until it's burned into your brain. Trust me, it's worth it ------------- I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't |
Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 13:03
| First 3 are great but after that I can take them or leave them and I can't get away with the new one at all. |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 15:19
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I'm in the same situation as yourself, I have only their first 2 and although I find them interesting (for lack of a better word...) they did not excite me enough as to make me spend more money on their other albums.
I like Deloused slightly better than Frances but I like them both, it's just that when it comes to choosing music to spend my money in, other TMV albums are not high enough in the wishlist.
For the comments I don't think i will be thrilled by Bedlam but I might like Octohedron and Noctourniquet. Maybe some day...
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 15:49
Get away with the new one? You mean you keep listening to it? Or you're trying to escape it? ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Nightfly wrote:Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 20 2012 at 02:04
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Based on Frances The Mute I would probably define TMV as brilliant musicians that give me a headache. That said I did rate it 5 stars (maybe because I didn't want to feel left out |
) . One of those bands I will just file under 'I wish I could like them a lot more than I actually do'.Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: July 20 2012 at 03:42
You are not the only one, I like everything they did, Bedlam is a split no.1, with the debut. NB: For me, if an album is easy to get into, as in I love it at first sight, 80% says its forgetable, and im not comming back to it much, after a few months.
------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 20 2012 at 04:02
| My favorite album is Amputechture which was not mentioned here, but by what you're looking for I agree with the rest, go for Noctourniquet which is really superb or Octahedron which IMO is their weakest. They are worth getting into, that's for sure. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 20 2012 at 04:11
quite-- all I know is I didn't care for that live album |
Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: July 20 2012 at 04:42
The first half of Bedlam is the best 40min of music I think I have ever heard. The second half is good but not great. Frances The Mute embodies everything I love about music. I know ever second of that album. Pure genius. Rest of the albums vary from 'good' (Amputechture, Deloused) to 'great' (Octahedron, Noctourniquet). ------------- 
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Posted By: Terra Australis
Date Posted: August 24 2012 at 06:43
I have quite a few of their albums, but I feel the same about them as you... I try them again every now and then but still feel the same. ------------- Allomerus. Music with progressive intent. http://allomerus.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - http://allomerus.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 24 2012 at 07:16
Similar for me. I have FTM and TBIG. Really good musicians, but I find the chaos a little overwhelming and after a while, quite grating and annoying. They're not a band I've been inspired to explore further. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: August 24 2012 at 07:23
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^ check out De-Loused one day (if you haven't already), it's the least grating in terms of endless chaos etc - having very little on it overall
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 24 2012 at 07:28
I think I have a copy of it somewhere that I borrowed off someone I used to work with, and never gave it back. I'll try and find it. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: August 24 2012 at 07:34
Interested to see what you think if you can find it 
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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 17:21
| I don't find their debut to be very hectic at all, it's just after that album the vocals start to irritate me. |
Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 21:47
How about giving the album back to the person you borrowed from? Sheesh.....  I never understood people who borrow things and don't return them. This is the very reason why I don't lend original copies of my CDs to people. If they want to hear an album I have, I'll burn them a copy of it. ------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 21:52
I once lent a copy of Rush's Grace Under Pressure to a friend, hoping he would give them a chance (most of my friends are skeptical about Rush and my Rush obsession); he returned it to me six months later, having never listened to it. ------------- I love dogs, I've always loved dogs |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 22:09
Don't see how this is a dilemma....  but:I think the first three albums are their best. Octahedron is also excellent. If you don't like any of those, then you probably won't like the latest one. I'm almost positive you won't like The Bedlam in Goliath. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 20:24
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I picked up their new album used for $4 today (a steal, really), so I'm giving them another chance.
------------- http://gamercards.exophase.com/xbox/user/MillsLayne/" rel="nofollow"> ht |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 21:07
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Keep the bedlam spinning, it's as good as any, just takes a little longer to digest. ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: RedNightmareKing
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 22:57
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Amputechture and Noctourniquet are the more mellow side of TMV, I really dig both records. TMV is really tough to get into, but being a longtime fan of At The Drive-In, I felt the transition was semi-smooth for me. I started out with Frances and Bedlam, which was a sort of crash course. But, I really think Amputechture and Noctourniquet are what you're looking for.
------------- I consider drone metal to be progressive... |