Steely Dan Albums
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Topic: Steely Dan Albums
Posted By: Horizons
Subject: Steely Dan Albums
Date Posted: July 20 2012 at 18:50
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These are the albums my local record store holds. I'm curious on your opinions on these albums and how you would rank them? I've allowed for multiple votes so i could see if two really take the lead. Feel free to post your favorites form each albums. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: July 20 2012 at 19:03
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Katy Lied is my least favorite of the four, though it's a favorite of some fans. It's pretty straightforward rock, as far as Steely Dan goes, meaning it's got punchy tempos and fun songs but still throws a few curveballs (Your Gold Teeth II is incredible, as is Doctor Wu). And the chord progressions are jazzy as always. Pretzel Logic is really diverse and daring. Lots of different tempos, moods, and even a Duke Ellington cover. Aja is kind of a jazz rock masterpiece, and a big change in direction for them. Sounds like it was put together by session players and it was. Steve Gadd is all over this one. And the songs are great too, a bit more elongated and smoothed out, but still vital. Royal Scam is kind of a cross between Pretzel and Aja. Dynamic rock material, really dark songs that seem to paint a picture of the New York criminal underground and the life surrounding it. But also very produced, with guest session guys like Larry Carlton (whose solo on Kid Charlemagne is rightly famous). My rankings of these 1. Royal Scam 2. Aja 3. Pretzel 4. Katy ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 20 2012 at 19:15
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Go for the box set if it's available. I did and don't regret it.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: July 20 2012 at 19:37
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The Royal Scam. The best album on that list.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 20 2012 at 20:30
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^ yup-- 'Green Earrings' kicks ass |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: July 20 2012 at 21:44
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Katy Lied and Aja are about equal favourites for me. I'd say start with Aja and if you like that, get all the rest. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: July 20 2012 at 22:14
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I guess i'm the first to vote for Pretzel Logic. To be honest this is one of the few bands that i'd be happy with a compilation album of songs along with Countdown To Ecstacy. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: July 20 2012 at 22:34
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"Say Steve, how would you rank the entire SD discography on a grading system?" Glad you asked: Royal Scam A Countdown to Ecstasy A Aja A - Pretzel Logic A - Gaucho B+ Katy Lied B / B+ Can't Buy a Thrill C+ And I don't know the newer ones well enough to judge, but I didn't really like what I heard. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: July 21 2012 at 04:24
| Most of their albums before they left the scene in the 80s are great but if you really must avoid any of those albums, Katy Lied and Can't Buy A Thrill are the weakest ones (while still really good). Either of Aja, Royal Scam or Pretzel Logic would be a good place to start. If you really like jazz rock/fusion/funk, maybe Royal Scam is your best bet, failing that Aja. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 21 2012 at 05:27
I'd say Gaucho is the one to avoid... it's got nothing t do with SD IMHO: it's just borin,g tango music Royal Scam and Countdown To Ecstasy are thir proggiest, IMHO ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
rogerthat wrote:Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 21 2012 at 06:45
If I were to pick a single one it would be one not in stock - Countdown, which has my favorite SD song - King Of The World. I'm guessing someone already beat you to it.  But then the disco-y Gaucho isn't in stock either. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 21 2012 at 07:10
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talk about a group that didn't make anything less than a good/great album. ranking them in terms of 1a, 1b, 1c and 1d Katy Lied Aja Pretzel Logic Royal Scam |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 21 2012 at 07:25
| I'm glad this thread came up since I wanted to bring it up myself. I love Countdown To Ecstasy but never really cared for Aja, it has some good moments but it's quite boring for my taste and I don't like the album's sound, too soft and caressy (???) for me. So judging by what you all said I guess I'll try Royal Scam first. |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: July 21 2012 at 11:15
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I've never been big about Aja either. It's got a couple good tunes here and there, but lacks solidity and consistency, in my opinion. Black Cow's got a great groove. My favourite is probably The Royal Scam, mainly for Kid Charlemagne. Pretzel Logic is my second favourite.
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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: July 21 2012 at 11:18
 Almost this for me, except switch Countdown's position with Pretzel's. They're all suberb albums though; you can't go wrong with any of them. Fagen and Becker - 21st century geniuses. -------------
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 21 2012 at 12:38
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Thanks for all the replies guys, very helpful. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: July 21 2012 at 17:15
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Pretzel Logic is the one I like the best, the much eclectic of all, with some jazz, some funk, some southern rock, some pop, some country. Followed by the very jazz-rocky and flawless Aja. katy Lied is also a fine album, close in the spirit to 'countdown to ecstasy'. Then Royal Scam, as it has two poor tracks, "fez" and "haitian divorce". It would be a 5-star album in my book without these tunes. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: July 21 2012 at 18:27
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Ooh, Haitian Divorce is one of my favorites of all Dan's songs! I can understand not liking the Fez though. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: July 21 2012 at 21:17
| ^^^ I love the chords on Fez. The Royal Scam album just generally has amazing chord progressions. I do find the title track a bit boring, though. |
Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: July 22 2012 at 01:01
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Whenever my family went on a road trip, my parents would play a lot of Steely Dan. I've nicknamed three of their albums (Can't Buy A Thrill, Countdown To Ecstasy and Aja) "The Road Trip Albums" because they're the ones I remember most vividly during those trips. Back on topic, I suggest you start with either Countdown To Ecstasy or Pretzel Logic. ------------- He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball! |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: July 22 2012 at 17:57
I love The Fez! ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 22 2012 at 18:08
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Steely Dan is considered prog by PA. Just in case anyone twerent aware. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3917" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3917 ------------- 
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 23 2012 at 02:16
| Pretzel Logic |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: July 23 2012 at 02:24
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Hmm, I consider The Royal Scam one of the weakest SD albums of the 70's, which means nothing really, I just don't consider it as strong as most of the others.
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: July 23 2012 at 05:20
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Aja k ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: July 23 2012 at 15:03
well, Joni Mitchell was just as prog as Steely Dan were in the seventies... ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 24 2012 at 01:33
| ^ not convinced they are jazz rock/fusion though. Nice smooth pop music going by Aja which is the only album of theirs I own. |
Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: July 24 2012 at 09:34
| Darn! You didn't include "Countdown to Ecstasy". Out of these 4 I would pick Aja. I like the ending which feels like Soft Machine in 73' with John Marshall on drums. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: July 24 2012 at 10:20
They're not jazz-rock/fusion in the sense of RTF, Brand X, Mahavishnu Orchestra, or even Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock, or Weather Report, but it makes sense to put Steely Dan in that category, and they DID interpret jazz in a rock context. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 24 2012 at 11:32
 ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: July 24 2012 at 11:37
Besides, I don't think Aja or Gaucho are pop music in that sense. They are deceptively catchy but their chord progressions can be complicated. Even then, I am not sure how prog they are because, for instance, Court and Spark might also qualify IF Aja is prog enough.
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Posted By: hobocamp
Date Posted: July 24 2012 at 12:18
I'm all in! Heirja is a masterpiece. I voted Katy Lied if only for Dr Wu. Such an uplifting chorus! The song Aja always felt like an extension of the musical theme to me. |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: July 24 2012 at 15:27
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yes, and it has Jaco pastorius on bass. Her live album ''shadows and light' fratures a jazz-rock backing band. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 24 2012 at 15:31
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I'm going to grab Royal Scam for 4.99 at Best Buy today. Hopefully it's still there since i saw it last. Thanks for help. I'll grab more if they have them there. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: July 24 2012 at 15:32
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I got Katy Lied at Best Buy for $4.99 last week, so your Best Buy might have that one too. ------------- 
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 24 2012 at 15:36
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I sadly haven't seen any Katy Lied at any store i've been to. It's a shame seeing that's my favorite artwork by them. I like it a lot really. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 29 2014 at 22:22
| Hey, Austin, how are you doing on Steely Dan after two years? |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 29 2014 at 23:13
Katy Lied is my personal favorite but I would get all of them up to and including Gaucho .....the ones they did later are for hard core fans imho, and I'm a fan in case you can't tell from my name.
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