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Topic: Yes Keyboardists
Posted By: Misomex777
Subject: Yes Keyboardists
Date Posted: July 22 2012 at 08:55
Who do you prefer? Wakeman not included
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: July 22 2012 at 08:57
I think Igor was excellent. I got to see him perform in Yes in 2000. Amazing concert.
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: July 22 2012 at 10:46
Tony Kaye! Why I am the first who vote for him? However, he is definitely more important figure than Patrick Moraz, which has appeared only on one (and overrated in my opinion) album.
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Posted By: hinafu
Date Posted: July 22 2012 at 11:34
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: July 22 2012 at 11:50
Moraz for his outstanding work on Relayer. The Battle section of Gates is one of my favourite moments in music - riveting, intricate.
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: July 22 2012 at 13:37
Moraz, closely followed by Koroshev and Downes.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 22 2012 at 20:51
Moraz
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Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: July 22 2012 at 21:00
Too easy. I feel sorry for the others, because Moraz is dominating.
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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: July 23 2012 at 00:27
I would vote for Moraz even if Wakeman was included.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 23 2012 at 11:05
Kaye because he was rather good on all the Yes albums until he got left behind by technology. Moraz is amazing but I much prefer the Refugee album over Relayer where Howe and White have the 'starring roles'.
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: July 24 2012 at 05:58
From this list clearly Moraz. Saw the Relayer Tour and he was amazing. Was unfortunate that this was his only stint with Yes. It would have been interesting to see what else they could have done if he had remained in the band.
Igor and Tony Kaye are good-also got to see both of them. Geoff Downes IMHO is awful. Saw the Drama Tour at Madison Square Garden and Downes had this huge keyboard set up and he touches 2 or 3 of the keys the entire show-he was bad on all the non-Drama material.
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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: July 24 2012 at 06:27
Epignosis wrote:
I think Igor was excellent. I got to see him perform in Yes in 2000. Amazing concert.
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I lean on your opinion. Koroshev made a great job on The Ladder, even if he wasn't as innovative as Moraz.
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Posted By: giselle
Date Posted: July 25 2012 at 08:31
Tony Kaye, the original Yes man
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Posted By: NickHall
Date Posted: July 25 2012 at 09:10
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: July 25 2012 at 12:44
shoud've done more work with Patrick Moraz. Very interesting style. Vey talented
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Posted By: DiamondDog
Date Posted: July 26 2012 at 15:40
All of them pale by comparison with Rick Wakeman, not just because of his talent, but because he was the best fit.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: August 02 2012 at 15:11
I love Tony Kaye on the early albums.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 02 2012 at 15:14
Misomex777 wrote:
Who do you prefer? Wakeman not included |
Rick Wakeman. Piling on Moraz.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 02 2012 at 19:13
Somehow I feel it would have been very interesting if Patrick Moraz and Bill Bruford had been in Yes at the same time. Well, there's Fish out of Water, but that's not exactly the same.
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 01:31
Posted By: BostonMike
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 18:50
Even if I hadn't seen what others had written I would have picked Moraz as a distant second to Wakeman. I'd rate "Relayer" as the best post-Wakeman album by Yes. I did read Keith Emerson's autobiography and he had few kind words for Patrick Moraz. They seemed more critical of his attitude than his talent.
Me, I just listen to the music and I though Relayer kicked ass!
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Posted By: resurrection
Date Posted: August 12 2012 at 01:48
Of these included, Tony Kaye, hardly the most talented individual, but a better fit. Only Wakeman brought another dimension.
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Posted By: Uncomfortable
Date Posted: September 17 2012 at 11:37
Tony Kaye. I solely bass my
opinion on the choice of his instruments. The Hammond
organ(Lm-300, Lm100, b3) for me, is the best choice for Yes. I thoroughly
enjoyed the Yes album in particular because of Bruford's drumming position and
tools that Kaye used. In my opinion, Yes was at its tonal peek during that period. Even though introduction of Rick Wakeman exploded Yes into new boundaries and levels of measured success, his choice in the Moog and other, more "synthetic" sounding instruments was difficult for me to love. If Rick Wakeman continued to stay with the Hammond, his tone would be more towards my liking. Much later however with the introduction with Patrick Moraz, yes veered ever so slightly into a different direction. The jazz and concerto influences on to Yes changed them minorly. Yes is a changing craft and tends to recycle themselves to stay alive. It seems that Kaye was playing the right instruments at the right time.
Long Live Yes
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Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: September 17 2012 at 12:24
bytor2112 wrote:
I would vote for Moraz even if Wakeman was included. |
This.
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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: September 17 2012 at 12:59
I've seen all in concert with Yes. Moraz by far was the best.
Then:
Khoroshev
Downes
Kaye
None were bad.
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Posted By: Ommadawn
Date Posted: September 17 2012 at 18:44
Posted By: JIF8882
Date Posted: November 09 2012 at 06:24
I vote for Mr. Downes. I wasn't alive when Yes released Drama, but have heard songs from the Drama tour on YouTube. Geoff kills on the Yes classics then and now(despite what someone else said).
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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: November 09 2012 at 06:58
Tony Kaye
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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: November 10 2012 at 05:32
1 Moraz 2 Khoroshev 3 Kaye
Let's not talk about the Downes Syndrome.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 10 2012 at 05:38
- Moraz
- Wakeman
- Downes
- Khoroshev
- Kaye
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Posted By: wehpanzer
Date Posted: February 08 2013 at 14:05
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: February 08 2013 at 16:49
Moraz please, thank you
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: February 08 2013 at 17:21
Moraz. Relayer is amazing. I love Drama, but Fly From Here wasn't too hot in my book.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 08 2013 at 20:10
How about Wakeman Jnr. ??? YES never wasted time with sub-par talent............
Moraz was outstanding - pity he only stuck around for a short time........
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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: February 08 2013 at 23:30
Why is Rick not included? Is it because he would easily win? :D
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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: February 08 2013 at 23:32
I was going to vote for Patrick Moraz but the only reason I didn't is because Tony was with them longer and Patrick was only one one album.
Geoff Downes was never on a YES album.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 00:03
Kaye. Some splendid work before Fragile. Patty made such a mess on Relayer with the other Yes boys.
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 00:05
Snow Dog wrote:
- Moraz
- Wakeman
- Downes
- Khoroshev
- Kaye
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Uh, Rick or Oliver is not on this list
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Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 00:06
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Kaye. Some splendid work before Fragile. Patty made such a mess on Relayer with the other Yes boys. |
could you elaborate on that since you usually love a mess??
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Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
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"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 00:48
^ I usually don't. And I don't need to elaborate. I really don't feel like giving a whole lecture on a listener's perception. I'm not a neurologist.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 00:53
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
- Moraz
- Wakeman
- Downes
- Khoroshev
- Kaye
| Uh, Rick or Oliver is not on this list
| Rick is on the list.
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 01:18
Dayvenkirq wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
- Moraz
- Wakeman
- Downes
- Khoroshev
- Kaye
| Uh, Rick or Oliver is not on this list
| Rick is on the list.
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he is not on this poll I meant
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Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 01:19
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ I usually don't. And I don't need to elaborate. I really don't feel like giving a whole lecture on a listener's perception. I'm not a neurologist. |
King Crimson isn't a mess??
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Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 01:29
^ To me, 95% of the time - no.
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 01:43
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ To me, 95% of the time - no. |
fair assessment but to me they sound like a mess which can be a good at times but I also feel that they come across as pretentious and foolish
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Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 01:45
^ Jesus, what prog band doesn't?
Anyway, back to the topic, and don't even dare to try to turn it into an anti-Crimsonian argument (as you usually tend to do). I'm still with Kaye.
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 01:48
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Jesus, what prog band doesn't?The good ones who don't come across as pretentious
Anyway, back to the topic, and don't even dare to try to turn it into an anti-Crimsonian argument.
I'm still with Kaye. |
I like Tony's subtleties but I love Moraz on this list
anti-crimsonian. I think you have probably invented a word
------------- “War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: February 09 2013 at 05:53
^And what a negative word it is
On-topic: Listen to Relayer and you've got my pick. To be honest I liked Moraz better than Wakeman based on his performance on that single album. So much more of a complimentary player who could still do some tight soloing.
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 04:17
Moraz
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 04:34
Neo-Romantic wrote:
^And what a negative word it is
On-topic: Listen to Relayer and you've got my pick. To be honest I liked Moraz better than Wakeman based on his performance on that single album. So much more of a complimentary player who could still do some tight soloing. |
I didn't come up with it, Andrey did
------------- “War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 04:34
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Jesus, what prog band doesn't?
Anyway, back to the topic, and don't even dare to try to turn it into an anti-Crimsonian argument (as you usually tend to do). I'm still with Kaye.
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------------- “War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 04:56
Haha didn't mean to point a finger of blame at anyone. Just cringed at the meaning behind it
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 05:23
Moraz was a keyboard god in Relayer but although I'm not very familiar with the rest of his work (I only have his solo album from 1978 and once listened to 'The Story Of I' long time ago from a friend) he seems to have lacked consistency, when surrounded by the other Yes geniuses his talent burst out, but without that inspiration from other talents around him he seemed unable to replicate it by himself alone. Had he stayed for longer they might have produced other masterpieces but we will never know.
Kaye was good and did an excellent job in the Yes Album but never struck me as a real virtuoso.
Downes a bit of the same, a very good keyboardist but lacking brilliance.
Koroshev was technically outstanding but so lacking in charisma, saw the Ladder tour and he looked so cold and clinical, nothing for this band.
Which leaves Rick as the real deal, he should have never left and it's a pity that he did not want to participate in the latest incarnation.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 14:21
Oliver is an almost a dead-ringer in style as his father.......
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