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Topic: Shadowfax fans?
Posted By: zoviet
Subject: Shadowfax fans?
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 09:31
anyone else here a fan of Shadowfax? 
 
i discovered em through my obsession with Tortoise.......not sure if this makes any sense hahaha but.......what are yr fav albums?  mine are:
 
Shadowdance
The Dreams of Children
The Odd Get Even
 
 
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Posted By: GentleGiant
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 09:46
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 09:52
Damn straight I am.  Big smile

Watercourse Way is one of those obscure prog albums from the '70's that more people should get to know.

They went off the radar screen but then resurfaced on the Windham Hill label.  Did albums that were more in the new age vein but still really good mellow music.  Dreams Of Children was a return to more prog.

You managed to hit me up with one I haven't heard or have.  I'm Embarrassed.


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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 09:55
Shadowfax was Gandalf's horse! Since he's not around anymore, Gandalf has nothing better to do than make a bunch of silly polls.

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Posted By: zoviet
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 10:06
Originally posted by Slartibartfast

Damn straight I am.  Big smile

Watercourse Way is one of those obscure prog albums from the '70's that more people should get to know.

They went off the radar screen but then resurfaced on the Windham Hill label.  Did albums that were more in the new age vein but still really good mellow music.  Dreams Of Children was a return to more prog.

You managed to hit me up with one I haven't heard or have.  I'm Embarrassed.
 
LOLnonono i havent heard Watercourse Way yet!!! so thats somethin for me to really check out..........i've got all their Windham Hill output and some of the later stuff but The Odd Get Even is my only album of theirs from the 90s period


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 10:07
Definitely put that one on the top of your must listen to list.  It will blow you away. I was a big advocate  for their addition here.  That album was exhibit number one.


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Posted By: zoviet
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 12:35
heard some tracks on youtube, i love it!! i want a copy!!
 
and would a shadowfax fan like tortoise?


Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 14:02
I only have Shadowdance, long time I did not listen to it but I remember it as a great album (I love a lot of new age music).
Which other of their albums would you recommend the most?
 
I think I'm gonna give Shadowdance a wake up from the dusty shelf Tongue


Posted By: BlackenedGass
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 14:05
I like them, but don't have any albums Cry Have had to go by what i've heard online and the radio... some great stuff!


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 14:13
Originally posted by Gerinski

I only have Shadowdance, long time I did not listen to it but I remember it as a great album (I love a lot of new age music).
Which other of their albums would you recommend the most?
 
I think I'm gonna give Shadowdance a wake up from the dusty shelf Tongue

It's got Watercourse Way, which is one of the mellower tracks from the original album redone.


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Posted By: zoviet
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 21:01
Originally posted by Gerinski

I only have Shadowdance, long time I did not listen to it but I remember it as a great album (I love a lot of new age music).
Which other of their albums would you recommend the most?
 
I think I'm gonna give Shadowdance a wake up from the dusty shelf Tongue
 
Watercourse Way
The Dreams of Children
The Odd Get Even
 
actually Folksongs For A Nuclear Village is pretty good too.
 
 
and......and........i would suggest you check out these Tortoise albums if u love the shadowfax vibe (though i checked out Shadowfax BECAUSE it loved the Tortoise vibe bwahahahahaWacko
 
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 22:27
The band name totally made me think they were a typical prog metal band formed in the 90s. LOL


Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 22:29
Originally posted by Horizons

The band name totally made me think they were a typical prog metal band formed in the 90s. LOL


Same here LOL.


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Posted By: Mr. Maestro
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 22:53
I just discovered this band.  Listened to some tracks from Watercourse Way on YouTube; I'm probably going to have to buy the album now.  I love their sound.
 
Plus there's the fact that they're apparently Tolkien fans, which is always a nice bonus. Big smile


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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 23:01
I like Shadowfax. I own many of their recordings: Shadowdance, The Odd Get Even, The Dreams of Children, and Too Far To Whisper are the ones I remember liking the most. I'll have to reinvestigate them.

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 04 2012 at 07:05
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: August 04 2012 at 10:05

I listened to Watercourse Way years ago and I wasn't impressed. I don't know if I still have it, but since you've brought it up it certainly deserves another spin.



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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: August 04 2012 at 10:14
I really like Watercourse Way but that's all i know about them.

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 04 2012 at 12:20
If metal is your thing and mellow music is boring to you I wouldn't recommend exploring further.  When they hooked up with the Windham Hill label they went all mellow.  They did pick it up some with Dreams Of Children.

I'm still scratching my head at the label picking up French Frith Kaiser Thompson.  LOL


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Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: August 04 2012 at 14:32
I have Dreams of Children on cassette... which means I havent heard it in many many years but I do love the album. I also have a vinyl shadowfax album but it was apprently so unimpressive I can't remember the name. My cassette machine is still in fine working order, I think I'll go upstairs and get that Shadowfax tape.. thanks for the reminder OP.

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 04 2012 at 15:26
I got to see them on the DOC tour.  I thought I might still have the concert t-shirt but alas it was a casualty of one night many years ago when I had too much to drink and forgot about a load of t's in an apartment washing machine. Embarrassed

RIP to Chuck Greenberg 1950-1995.


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Posted By: Gooner
Date Posted: August 09 2012 at 22:12
I'm a big fan of the self titled "Shadowfax" and "Shadowdance".  Cabecaz De Cera sound a bit like Shadowfax.  I discovered them by accident because I thought they had a "neat" name and their album covers were either bleak or spacey.  These guys probably should have been included on the ECM roster...but Windham Hill will do.


Posted By: zoviet
Date Posted: August 20 2012 at 00:58
Originally posted by Slartibartfast

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i love this, tks for reminding me they had an LP before their Windham Hill output.  Ordered a copy but got the windham hill LP reissue...........


Posted By: Terra Australis
Date Posted: August 24 2012 at 06:13
Originally posted by Slartibartfast

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Have this on vinyl too. Great album, going to dig it out for a spin....


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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: August 24 2012 at 07:16
Originally posted by thellama73

Shadowfax was Gandalf's horse! Since he's not around anymore, Gandalf has nothing better to do than make a bunch of silly polls.

Ok, I think this is the funniest thing I've read this morning.


Posted By: The Mystical
Date Posted: January 28 2013 at 16:20
I found a copy of "Esperanto" for four dollars. Should I buy it? Or is it as bad as people make it out to be?


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 29 2013 at 11:29
Hi,
 
Love this group in their early days, specially before Chuck left us.
 
Absolutely lovely stuff, that deserved a lot more credit than it has ever gotten, but again, like so many other bands in here, it gets passed off into a "branch" that no one listens to ... until someone mentions it here ... but the placement, hurts the listening to the work.
 
All in all, great band, and excellent in concert as well.


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Posted By: AreYouHuman
Date Posted: June 11 2013 at 22:51
Originally posted by moshkito

Hi,
 
Love this group in their early days, specially before Chuck left us.
 
Absolutely lovely stuff, that deserved a lot more credit than it has ever gotten, but again, like so many other bands in here, it gets passed off into a "branch" that no one listens to ... until someone mentions it here ... but the placement, hurts the listening to the work.
 
All in all, great band, and excellent in concert as well.

I was lucky to land a copy of Watercourse Way on Passport, and what's funny is that this was in 1983, when they already had 2 more albums on Windham Hill. I knew about the band on WH, but it was a while longer before I realized it was the same band, when I noticed two of the WW tracks were rerecorded on Shadowdance.

Definitely excellent in concert, was able to catch them in February 1985 in West Palm Beach. Much "rockier" than their studio albums suggest; unfortunately they did get lumped as New Age because they were on WH.

Watercourse Way did get reissued by WH, but as I understand it, it was a much different mix that didn't do the original justice.


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 16 2013 at 11:42
Originally posted by AreYouHuman

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Definitely excellent in concert, was able to catch them in February 1985 in West Palm Beach. Much "rockier" than their studio albums suggest; unfortunately they did get lumped as New Age because they were on WH.

Watercourse Way did get reissued by WH, but as I understand it, it was a much different mix that didn't do the original justice.
 
I am not a great fan of "remixes", that try to make something out of the music that was nto there.
 
For example: Steven's fooling around with KC's albums did not make it better for me. I had the imagination, the love, the understanding and the vision ... and did not need to have Steven put the guitar here and the microphone there and the bs here and whatever there, and make it a clean mix, to make it better ... in fact, for me it was so damn clinical as to take the "live" aspect out of it all together for me. I always thought, for both KC and Shadowfax, that their more "rock" edge in concert, was mandated by the music company than anything else ... by that time, everyone knew that rock music made big money and everything else didn't!
 
There is such a thing as ... "time" and "place", and you can not duplicate that time and place, and space! You can try to make it something else, like your interpretation or mine, but in the end, it does not help the work stand up any more than it did then, when IT MADE SENSE ... instead of it just being another rock song for radio, which it wasn't!
 
I was not a fan of the New Age folks and their hippocrisy ... they were "new age" for an hour playing with crystals and showing how sexy they could be half naked, and then went back to their comfortable lives, not happy, and unsatisfied, and then go to church on Sunday morning, to purge their angers and disappointments, only to go back and try to be cool with a crystal in between the breasts, complete with their image of a tall, dark and handsome, vigorous youth, and hide the frustration and lack of desire/love behind it! And I don't mean sex ... that is another chapter!
 
Same thing for music. Eno, AshRaTempel, Wolff and Hemmings, Frank Perry, Klaus Schuze, Vangelis, Popol Vuh, Jon Anderson (not Yes!) were so "new age" before it became that ... and the majority of new age folks, were not interested in anything but soaped out stuff that had no soul behind it except your money! Even the "hippest" in Portland, pulled off a huge heist and robbery!
 
Shadowfax came with me in 1982 when I left Santa Barbara for good. Along with many other albums of great music! 2k LP's all slammed inside a 1968 Plymouth Valiant that by the time it reached Portland/Vancouver, had lost its back wheel bearings due to the weight ... but the music was not going to leave me!
 
And above all, I never forgot the feeling of hearing it ... and that is something that Steven Wilson, or anyone else, can not remaster, and NEVER WILL! Besides the fact that the ego involved thinks that his ego is better than yours or mine because he can sing about it and comment!


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 17 2013 at 04:36
I got the Windham Hill Watercourse Way.  It sounded OK to me.  I was surprised that a label known for mellow new age music would have re-released that album.  On a side note I turned Ivan on to that album.  Turned out his dad it on vinyl and he inherited it.



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