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Starless and Bible Black: Instrumentals or Vocals

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Topic: Starless and Bible Black: Instrumentals or Vocals
Posted By: smartpatrol
Subject: Starless and Bible Black: Instrumentals or Vocals
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 13:10
This one's much tougher for me. I love Fracture and Trio, but I also love The Great Desciver, Lamnet and The Night Watch. I don't think I'll vote on this one.

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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 13:15
This one is much, much harder. I went with instrumentals despite the brilliance of Great Deceiver.

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 13:20
Not so hard for me. Instrumentals.

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Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 13:28
Instrumentals, and it's close.

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 13:29
Ummmmmmmm

Instrumentals I guess.  Real close call though.


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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 13:39
Vocals.. again, the first two tracks are my favorites off the album.


Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 13:55
I much prefer the vocal pieces.

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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 13:57
I just listened to this last month for the first time and spun it again several times the next few days.  The whole thing is great, but the vocals make the tracks even better


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 14:20
Instrumentals this time.

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 15:05
Instrumentals, easily. The Improvs are out of this world and Fracture is one of my favourite KC tunes. It's almost disturbing to think of all those crazy ideas going down in their heads as they recorded the piece. LOL

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 15:54
Again, the instrumentals.

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Posted By: Ommadawn
Date Posted: August 21 2012 at 18:42
Instrumentals, plus 'The Night Watch' which I think is one of the best things Crimson has ever done!.


Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: August 22 2012 at 00:16
Instrumentals for me, amazing stuff like Fructure, Trio and WLYK. The Night Watch is my favorite track off this album though.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 22 2012 at 20:51
Instrumentals for me, even with The Mincer & The Great Deciever in the other category.

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: August 22 2012 at 21:03
Have to go vocals. "The Night Watch" is one of the best songs Crimson ever composed, and the lyrics relating to the famous Rembrandt painting are exceptional.

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Posted By: Jojowarren
Date Posted: August 22 2012 at 23:10
Fracture has some amazing guitar-work, obviously. But WLYK and the title track are kind of pointless improv to my ears. Trio is nice, given the right mood, but that and Fracture versus Great Deciever and Lament, both of which I think are perfect songs? Going to have to go with the vocal tracks.


Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: August 23 2012 at 08:04
Well, let's see. Among the vocal pieces, I think The Great Deceiver is a classic. The Night Watch is good, but the vocals in the midsection seem quite hectic to me (and I'm ambivalent about the lyrics, what with "guitar lessons for the wife" an all). The Mincer is an okay jam with a good bassline, but not much of interest happening over it. The beginning of Lament isn't bad, but it quickly falls apart once the drums come in.

Among the instrumentals, Fracture and Trio are great, but the other two I couldn't care less about. We'll Let You Know, with its stuttering bass, feels like a stiff and clumsy attempt at doing something Miles Davis-like to me, and the title track is the rare case of a jam where nobody contributes anything interesting. I still don't get why they put this particular improv on the album.

In the end, I'll have to go with the instrumentals, which have more hit, but also more miss.


Posted By: skorziks
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 17:21
Definitely a tough one. Fracture is one of my all time favorite KC songs, but other than Trio, I could care less about the other two instrs. However, I really like Night Watch and Lament....so I don't know what to pick. Think i'll pass on this vote.

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Posted By: Zargasheth
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 19:46
Like many have said, this is tricky. I slightly prefer the instrumentals, because Fracture, the title track, and Trio are all very good, but Great Deceiver and Lament hold up their section pretty well!


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 13:03
No vote. 90% of it is master-class.


Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 07:34
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Ummmmmmmm

Instrumentals I guess.  Real close call though.
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 13:53
The Great Deceiver and The Night Watch are my favourite tracks from this album, so vocals for me.

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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 01:44
Originally posted by Ommadawn Ommadawn wrote:

Instrumentals, plus 'The Night Watch' which I think is one of the best things Crimson has ever done!.

This exactly. I would go with instrumentals, but my affection for The Night Watch keeps me from voting.


Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 06:28
Who sang there, Wetton? I don't dislike him, but I do recognize that KC would have done just as fine without his vocals or bass. 



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