The Beardfish Thread
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Topic: The Beardfish Thread
Posted By: darkshade
Subject: The Beardfish Thread
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 13:23
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I thought we should have a thread dedicated to this great band. I couldn't find a pre-existing one, so I thought I'd start one. I love Beardfish, and their new album "The Void" has been getting rave reviews on other sites, I've even seem comments that it's as good as Sleeping In Traffic Part 2. My local shop has "The Void" and I'm picking it up tomorrow. 
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 14:59
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This is a band I still have to check out, where should I start?
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 15:20
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I heard that The Void will be more of a prog-metal album. Is that true, or am I dreaming?
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 17:33
| I didn't know they released a new album, this is great news. I love both Sleeping In Traffic albums, fantastic stuff really but couldn't get into Mammoth, it was a little boring. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 18:35
It appears so, i've seen a video where, once again, they make their sound much more heavier. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Anthony H. wrote:Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 18:45
But it still sounds like Beardfish, just heavier. I think it comes out in a couple of days. I'll be ordering on day 1.  ------------- http://gamercards.exophase.com/xbox/user/MillsLayne/" rel="nofollow">  ht |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 18:45
That discourages me. Mammoth was a bit disappointing. ------------- |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 18:47
I liked it, just agreed. I wish they kept their symphonic style. Though this doesn't sound bad, i like it actually. More songs form album on YouTube.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 21:25
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I like Mammoth. I originally gave it 5 stars, but after the excitement died down, I lowered it to a rightful 4 stars. It's on the same level as Destined Solitaire IMO, just a little shorter, a maybe a little heavier. Their last 4 albums have been four stars, with Sleeping In Traffic part 2 five stars. That's a good one to start with too, Ambient Hurricanes, unless you want the full concept and get SIT1 first. Apparently the first half of the album is heavy, whereas the second half, the epic in particular, is something completely different; according to a couple fans at the Dream Theater Forums. But you know what, even though they've been getting heavier, they still have that symphonic edge to them, with some quirkiness; they are under Eclectic Prog on PA. Either way, I sense the music will be different even though they've been heading in a heavier direction. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 22:17
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aren't there a handful of side projects from these dudes? weren't they all in tangent at some point too? never really gave them a chance...going to now since the almighty darkshade digs them! ------------- Stardust we are. -Roine Stolt |
Posted By: chanelhandbags2
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 22:22
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 22:22
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They have side projects, particularly Rikard, who writes most of the music, as far as I know, but they are obscure I think. They were in The Tangent, but they're not featured on any studio albums, maybe a live album, but I don't even think there's that. Funny though, Andy Tillison from The Tangent makes an appearance on the new Beardfish album. Zumacraig, I started with Sleeping In Traffic part 1 and went forward chronologically, and it worked for me. I later checked out The Sane Day, which is an earlier album, but haven't checked out their debut yet. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Morsenator
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 04:59
I like Sleeping In Traffic pt.1 very much, still need to check the other albums  ------------- You love the music, the music loves you! http://moonsofjupiter.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://moonsofjupiter.bandcamp.com/ |
Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 11:27
listening to Traffic 1 on spotify. good stuff. thanks for the recommendation. i think one of the dudes has an organ/drum duo. that sounds interesting. the tangent connection is crazy. can you imagine being in a band that is actually two bands with different sounds and ideas about music ;-) now that's progressive. ------------- Stardust we are. -Roine Stolt |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 11:33
Cool! SIT1 is my least favorite of their last 4 albums, not counting the new one which I haven't heard yet. The sequel SIT2 is the best one I think. I would love to have had a Tangent album with the lineup just being Beardfish, and Andy Tillison. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 14:08
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I have the 2 Sleeping in Traffics and Mammoth.
Mammoth is my least favourite, while I like both Sleeping In Traffic on a very similar level, difficult to choose one of the two.
Mammoth is the special edition with a Live DVD so I know a few older songs as well. I'm not very fond of the sound becoming heavier, I prefer their eclectic with a bit of symphonic angle.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 20:29
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Just finished The Void, and while I can't make much comments and will need to give further listens, I can say that while the band have been moving in a heavier direction lately, this new album is pretty different from the last two albums.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 29 2012 at 21:33
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I hope you guys are all getting a copy of The Void. It's intense. On one hand, it's heavy, and different from past albums, but it's also pretty complex, and I'm still wrapping my head around the music. It's a grower for sure. One of the best in 2012, I'm sure. This band seems to evolve stylistically every two albums. The first 2 albums--------Sleeping In Traffic I & II--------Destined Solitaire and Mammoth---------The Void ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 10:11
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I came here to mention that I'm on my 4th listen of The Void, and it's starting to grow on me. I was kinda disappointed on the first listen too, except for Ludvig & Sverker which I liked right away (and the bonus piano version even more). The only thing I'm not getting is the epic "Note". It just seems to be there, for 16 minutes. But epics take time to appreciate so we'll see. The band really upped the riffage and 'metal' in their sound, at least for the first 4 tracks (not including the introduction). But they still write great melodies. I didn't expect such a departure in their sound for those early tracks, but like I said, it's been growing on me. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 10:52
I ordered the CD, but I bought it with my preorder of the new Marillion to save on shipping, but now I think Amazon is going to ship both them together.... in October.  ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 10:56
Why would they do that? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 16:05
It saves shipping cost to send one box. I bought both from Amazon, so it's all coming from the same place. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 16:10
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I bought the new one too, with the new Saga and the new Kaipa. Expected delivery date is tomorrow, but with any luck they may be waiting for me when I get home tonight. ------------- 
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 16:15
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I forgot about the new Kaipa. I'll have to go back to my local shop next week or something.
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 16:26
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I would love it if my local record shop had new prog albums. They tend to carry the big names in stock, but never the little ones. I could always special order them, but my other problem with them is their prices on new CDs are always unbearably high (I've seen new released priced at $18 before). ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 16:29
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Sort of the same thing here. Once in awhile I find a new Prog CD at the local store and I gobble it up. I do find them at the FYE but I find them to be expensive, although I will still buy from there just to hopefully make somebody say hmmm..prog music is selling in this area. It seems silly to have the local store order something for me though, when I can just as easily go on-line and order it myself. The local store isn't going to give me any deals on a special order. -------------
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 16:35
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The FYE near me tends to have good prices and a half-decent selection, at least with progressive metals (I rarely see Symph X and the ilk there, but I've seen Ihsahn, Enslaved, Dir en Grey, Pelican, and other varieties). I got Dum Spiro Spero for I think $9 there, which was awesome. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 16:39
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Honestly, the shop by me is really the only place to get CDs anymore, most of the FYE's have shut down or moved, and Best Buy has less and less CDs every day. I'm lucky that my local shop has a prog section, a jazz section, and a funk section that is generally updated whenever most new albums come out, and sometimes older stuff too. What's weird is the guys who work there don't really listen to prog rock, but I wonder who keeps up with it...
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 16:46
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I did buy Flying Colors and the Opeth's Heritage at the Best Buy when they came out. -------------
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Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 17:38
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yeah, surprisingly best buy has been pretty good over the last year. filled out some rush for cheap, new releases of fairly popular indie bands (arcade fire,wilco) flying colors and dream theater. my local stores are either a rare vinyl shop or the hipster store which would laugh me out of the place if i preordered a third wave prog disc. ------------- Stardust we are. -Roine Stolt |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 17:41
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No mail at all today. Hopefully my order comes tomorrow. -------------
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Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 20:15
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I thought for sure one of my local shops would have The Void, considering it's on the Inside Out label and they had The Flower Kings new album, but no dice. Maybe they'll get it next week. Otherwise, I'm yet again going to Amazon.
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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 21:00
Only listened to it twice so far, though. ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 21:04
Nice! They were $13.99 and $14.99, which isn't great, but it's better than $18. ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: Master of Time
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 21:37
| I have listened a few times as well. I agree with everyone else that initially Ludvig & Sverker stuck out as the best at first, but the rest of the album has gotten better as well. The first half is more metal, but starting with Seventeen Again it's all classic Beardfish material. I'd give the metal half 3 stars but the rest I'd give 5 stars, coming in at just above a 4 star album, I definitely like it more than Mammoth just for the second half. The first half was quite disappointing however, but thankfully I'd already heard that from someone else so I was prepared. |
Posted By: Hästfågel
Date Posted: September 02 2012 at 11:41
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I must say, The Void gets bette and better after every listening. First, i was like meeh. Then i found the amazing track Ludvig & Sverker, which imo reminds me of their masterpiece "and the stone said...". After a few more listenings, my other favourites are "Note" , "This matter of mine" ,"voluntary slavery" and "he already lives in you". I have a feeling that this album will go straight into my top 10 list for 2012 after a few more listenings. Btw, 2012 might be the best prog year in a long long time.
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Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: September 02 2012 at 12:40
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I've heard The Hunter and I like it. Reminds me a little of Gente Giant. I'll probably explore them some time soon. -------------  |
Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 21:36
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I picked up The Void today. Let's just say while I like the album as a whole so far, the first half will take a few listens to fully get into. The back half won't be that hard to get into, though. On my first listen, I really enjoyed "Seventeen Again", "Ludvig & Skerver" and "Note". I liked the first part of "Voluntary Slavery", but then the heaviness kinda got stale. I'll definitely keep listening, though. A pretty intriguing album. ------------- http://gamercards.exophase.com/xbox/user/MillsLayne/" rel="nofollow"> ht |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 18:37
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The live DVD included with Mammoth is really fun to watch. I almost forgot about it until I decided to go through my Beardfish albums, and when I got to Mammoth, I decided to throw on the DVD first.
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Posted By: Knobby
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 18:54
| I have not heard "Void" yet, but the three forums I frequent general opinion is...this cd is best avoided altogether. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 19:03
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Don't listen to them. It's a grower for sure, especially the first half, but contains some of their best moments.
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Posted By: Knobby
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 19:06
| I read that the the first half is the real heavy, harsh guitar-sound half. A different direction for them. Not metalprog in the least, still.... |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 19:07
Hmmmm, how to put this....that's complete total bullsh*t, Knobby! Some people seem to have this screwy idea that the album is full of growled metal vocals - I think the total length of growls over the whole album would barely equal 10 seconds - and although many of the tracks have a harder sound, all those quirky time changes, complex lyrics and their usual inventive musical arrangements are all there. Killer vocal melodies as usual too. Possibly one of the best from last year! 
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Posted By: Knobby
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 21:59
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Mammoth seems to be getting the least love today.
I rate it highly though.
The first track is quite heavy and almost no keys . This is what Im fearing "The Void" is like.
Am I incorrect? Is there still a fair amount of organ? How much of The Void is instrumental.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 23:35
There are plenty of keys in the second half of the album, but there is some in the first half, I think, but if so, not prominent at all. There's one instrumental, and an epic as well. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 00:42
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Yeah, it's really just Turn to Gravel, Voluntary Slavery and This Matter of Mine that remotely resemble metal. The rest has a generally dirty guitar tone, but sounds more like their earlier output. More prominent bass and way more keys. The instrumental Seventeen Again even uses a piano reminiscent of I *think* Green Waves. Where the Lights Are Low is sort of, uh... angry bluesy jazz or something. I recommend giving Seventeen Again your first listen then Ludvig and Sverker.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 13:49
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Plus, Ludvig & Sverker is one of the most beautiful songs the band has ever written, and the piano version even more so.
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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 22:56
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What is that song about? I love it, but I get kind of a creepy vibe from it.
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Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 23:19
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http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107859440247/" rel="nofollow - http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107859440247/
Good question. At a guess I'd say it's parents burying stillborn twins and trying to cope with it.
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Posted By: Kazza3
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 23:59
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Hemispheres, you're on the right track, Rikard answered the question on their facebook a while back: "Regarding Ludvig & Sverker, it might be sharing too much... But: it's my tribute to two twin boys who were born way to early and therefore they were stillborn. They were identical twins and suffered from a complication known as TTTS http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin-to-twin_transfusion_syndrome I've been thinking all the time that this is too much to share and that the lyrics to the song was sufficient, but so many people have asked me/us about this now and I feel that I might as well let you know about my sons. The one thing I don't want with sharing this, and the reason I've been holding off I guess it that I'm not in any way looking for pity or sympathy from a bunch of people I don't know. I HAD to write this song and I wanted Beardfish to play and record it and I have no problem talking about Ludvig and Sverker but maybe not to strangers... I do however feel that this is an oppurtunity to make people aware of the fact that things do go wrong from time to time during pregnancy, more often than people will tell you. TTTS is a condition that can happen to anyone who's pregnant with identical twins. Sincerely - Rikard" |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 01:55
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Man, that is deep! And I feel bad for taking it all the wrong way. I like the song even more now!
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 14:06
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 14:10
Heh, how much were we pumping this album a little while back, Tom?!  If I recall last time, you were telling me that `Void' front cover was one of the best in modern progressive history?!  
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 14:21
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 14:22
| Dumb iPod............ |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 13:25
| I think The Void is passable at best, but I like Beardfish a lot. Traffic Pt 2 is the best post-70's 70's-sounding prog album that I've heard. |
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 15:57
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Beardfish is my favorite band currently, almost entirely on the strength of Destined Solitaire. That album just hit me at the right time in all the right ways for me. The rest of their catalog is good to great for me. The Void is half great, though I admittedly can enjoy the 3 "heavy" tracks when I'm in the right mood. I found them terribly disappointing initially, but they are actually quite well done and the energy the exude is impressive. I hesitate to call them "metal", since they still are infused with that 70's vibe Beardfish just seems to do so well. Traffic Part 2 I love, but for some reason I find the title track just "good", rather than great. Still good enough that it's probably my second favorite Beardfish album. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: July 06 2013 at 02:41
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I just read Rikard's note above regarding 'Ludvig and Sverker' and it just brings this song to a whole new level of emotion.
My only gripe with 'The Void' is how they've presented it - that hideous cover photo - it just baffles me. I wasn't going to get this album because of it, and then I get a batch of vinyl from Syn Phonic and Walker has accidentally slipped a copy into the lot. I mentioned the mistake to him and he had no clue he did it........I gave it a listen, it kicked me in the guts, I forwarded 20 bucks to Greg and was quite pleased the mishap took place !!
Fantastic album.
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: December 22 2013 at 11:11
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as I have to say. I`ve never listen to BRAEDFISH. So Will some one please tell me. Which  BREADFISH album I should listen to. First    one. As I would like to enter. Into the music of BRAEDFISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.     ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: December 22 2013 at 18:56
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Har, har, we have sailed far From Norway to Peru Whatever Captain Flurry says You must believe, it’s true
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Posted By: Kazza3
Date Posted: December 22 2013 at 19:03
| Indeed, Sleeping in Traffic pt I or II is the place to start. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 22 2013 at 20:02
Holy god, relax with the emoticons Start with Destined Solitaire. It's a great album, my favorite, that has plenty of styles. Doesn't get silly like some of their other material. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Kazza3
Date Posted: December 22 2013 at 20:17
You reckon? "A THOUSAND NAKED BODIES IN A PIT OF FLESH.... f**kING!! f**king? f**king." "Teach me as you would a DOG." And in the same song, where he faux-raps. If anything I find DS to be their most humorous and jovial in general style & delivery, even if that's used to present serious themes. Not that I find any of that a problem, DS is my favourite Beardfish album, I just think it may not be the best or easiest introduction to them, though I guess that depends on the person. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 22 2013 at 20:20
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I don't find either of those lyrical excerpts to be silly. Songs like South of the Border and Cashflow ruin SIT2.
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: December 22 2013 at 21:26
I love South of the Border 
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 22 2013 at 21:42
i mean i mean  ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: December 22 2013 at 22:32
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Geekfreak, you can't really go wrong with any of their albums. `Mammoth' would probably be a pretty easy place to start. They've got better albums, though. Even `The Void' is terrific, despite the thought that it's a little heavier. Don't be afraid of the 10 or 15 seconds of growled vocals on it that seems to put some people off the album altogether! 
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: December 23 2013 at 00:05
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^ Yep, 'The Void' -
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: December 23 2013 at 11:07
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Last time I listened to The Void, I really enjoyed it. It's a grower.
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Posted By: Utnapishtim
Date Posted: December 23 2013 at 12:36
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Oh, what a wonderful thing! A Beaedfish thread. I listened all their albums, this is a great band.Peefect and intelligent musicians, so many ideas. A band very special. Personally I love "Sleeping in The Traffic Parte One/Two" surely 2 masterpiece of ours days. The problem si that I don't like other albums, cetrainly less than this two. This coulb be not popular but I don't like metal sound... Anyhow unique band... |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: January 26 2014 at 14:40
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hi everyone please help me. I`ve never listen to Beardfish. so can you say which album to listen to FIRST. TO LISTEN TOO. ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 26 2014 at 17:07
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: January 27 2014 at 03:45
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thank you part 1&2 sleeping. got you. ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: January 30 2014 at 17:32
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Get them chronologically after SiT1&2, Destined Solitaire and Mammoth are also great albums. From there you can get their most recent, and controversial, The Void, or explore their earlier albums. I like The Sane Day, it's a little bloated, but good, and unfortunately, I haven't heard their debut album yet. I read an interview with Rikard yesterday, and he revealed that Beardfish's new album is finished, and is being recorded in December/Janurary, so it may be completed already. He said a June release date is what the record company is pushing for. I don't know where the link is, but it may be on the band's web site. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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