Musicians Fight 3: Geddy Lee or John Wetton
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Topic: Musicians Fight 3: Geddy Lee or John Wetton
Posted By: Earthmover
Subject: Musicians Fight 3: Geddy Lee or John Wetton
Date Posted: September 03 2012 at 14:03
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In my opinion, this is the hardest one. Before hearing Geddy, I rarely heard bass in music. But the way Geddy playsm, it opened everything up for me. He can play keys to, so that's a +. On the other side, things Wetton did in King Crimson are stellar. And I like his voice more than Lee's. I'll not vote here, but I think I slightly (and very slightly) prefer Mr Wetton, but not enough to vote for him over Ged. EDIT: It's funny. It seems I'm comparing Rush and KC again (last poll was Bruford/Peart). Well, I initially thought of comparing Lee with Ray Shulman, but I thought that it would somehow be unfair to Mr Ray (not as popular as Ged, so the winner is clear). In the end, I decided to go with Wetton, because there are many people here who love him, so there might be more balance.
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: September 03 2012 at 14:14
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Wetton's good, but Geddy Lee is a bass playing god, and has a voice like no others.
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: September 03 2012 at 14:20
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I have to go with Geddy on this one, as a bass player only. For vocals, I would vote Wetton. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: September 03 2012 at 14:54
For all round talent: singing, songwriting and multi-instrumentalist I go with John Wetton  Just for bass I might go with Lee.------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: September 03 2012 at 15:08
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Geddy's playing with John's voice would be the best.
Given that that's not gonna happen I voted for Geddy, he has had a more consistent career altough I can't tell how much of Rush's great music is due to his contribution as composer.
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Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: September 03 2012 at 15:12
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Note: this is not bass-only. You should take all the aspects into consideration. ------------- |
Posted By: ScorchedFirth
Date Posted: September 03 2012 at 15:16
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Geddy Lee! For vocals, bass playing, and fashion sense. ------------- breathing, eating, defecating, screwing, drinking, spewing, sleeping... 
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Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: September 03 2012 at 15:16
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Well if I'm taking all aspects into consideration, I CAN'T CHOOSE!!
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 03 2012 at 15:20
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I prefer Wetton as a singer, even then i not sure i prefer him to Geddy Lee's singing just because of the amount of Rush CD's i listen to compared to UK, and the KC albums he did. As a bass player - Geddy by light years, it is a musician poll anyway.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 03 2012 at 15:46
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Geddy Lee for his bass playing. As a singer, I like John Wetton just a bit more. ------------- 
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 03 2012 at 16:58
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John have a better bass sound, over decent techniquw, warmer voice, and overall a good preformer, so i vote for him, he is more captivative but Geddy is also a stellar bass player with a uniqie flare on the insturment, and wonderfull fills and overall flexibilaty on the bass and a solid sound, but he aint got the growl which John produced on songs like Fallen Angel and Starless this is my favourite bass song by Wetton, the tone is fantastic -------------  
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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: September 03 2012 at 17:10
| Not even close... Geddy Lee |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: September 03 2012 at 17:30
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I thought Lee was a far better bass player than Wetton until I saw this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5j4C01dKbk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5j4C01dKbk
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: September 03 2012 at 21:11
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bytor2112 wrote:Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: September 03 2012 at 21:31
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Hercules, I just watched that clip, just brilliant playing from Wetton. I think we all froget just how good he is, especially when you listen to his more comercial work of the last few years!! ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 01:24
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There is a similar case like a previous Bruford/Peart fight: Geddy's bass playing is technically perfect, but somewhat without soul, unlike John. Geddy is too tightly connected with only one band - Rush, while John is much more versatile. Geddy's vocals are rather annoying in heights, John's timbre isn't just clear but still pleasant.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 01:34
| John Wetton for his voice which is one of my favourites but he is also an excellent bassist. Wetton would get in my list of ten bassists but Lee wouldn't be in my list of vocalists. |
Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 06:01
| Geddy for me by just a little. While I think Wetton has a better voice and is a solid bass player, I just am always blown away by Lee's playing, his voice did get better over time-listen to 2112 and then Moving Pictures and you can hear the improvement-and I just enjoy Rush more than KC. |
Posted By: Terra Australis
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 07:21
Think I agree on all your points. ------------- Allomerus. Music with progressive intent. http://allomerus.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - http://allomerus.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 13:57
Very nice version indeed.
I think that besides technical capabilities a lot goes about their bass playing style, Geddy plays more like a soloist, for sure he sets the background rythm and tone but very frequently it's like he understands bass more like a guitarist would, while John plays more tradional bass lines, even if they can be technically great they are "more bass-like" while Geddy's are more "guitar-like" if you know what I mean.
Then a lot depends on which style of bass playing you prefer, rather than on who of them is "better".
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 14:15
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Wetton is kool but he can't compete with Geddy for me anyways :) ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 14:25
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Let me play bass more emotional - hit low note and sustain it for 8 beats. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 15:00
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Geddy, both as a bassist and singer.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 18:58
| As a bassist I'm not so sure who I prefer, perhaps Wetton. As a singer, Geddy Lee easily. Wetton, at least on his King Crimson years, is one of my least favourite singers (though time seems to have treated him well, unlike other singers, and lately I do have enjoyed his singing). |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 19:22
I'm not very impressed with Geddy's work, honestly ... at least on most occasions. John can really make some cool bass grooves when improvising. Answer is: John. Great bassist. He was a great singer, but now Geddy just beats him, I'd say.
Of course, that's not the only track where Wetton kicked a$%. Hell, I'd pull anything from KC's SABB as an example.
I've never seen this version before. Why have I not seen it before?
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 20:16
| For bass, I am tempted to go with Wetton just for KC because nothing in Rush compares to that phase of KC and what Wetton achieved with them. But as a singer, Geddy's voice has held up better (and nor did I see the fuss about Wetton anyway, even on Red). No vote. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 20:42
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Ish! Wetton. Superior bass technique, and a voice that doesn't sound like 20 KM of bad road, even during a good show! I first saw JW on the LTIA tour, and Geddy on the "Fly By Night" tour. I've also played bass for over forty years. I guess I have a dog in this hunt! Here, listen to Wetton's playing at 5:00. Funk-ee! Geddy never does that, he's a straight-ahead Rick player. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 20:43
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Straight-ahead player? I don't think that gives him any justice whatsoever. He's famous for his brilliant counter playing. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 20:45
Indeed. The melodies he comes up with often outshine the guitar or vocal lead of the song. I find it impossible to listen to Lifeson's solo in Limelight because I am always fascinated by what Geddy is doing at the same time. -------------
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 20:55
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 07:26
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Wetton. -------------  
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 11:52
| John Wetton, because of his compositions and his voice. |
Posted By: Ytse_Jam
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 13:15
| Geddy Lee, obvious! |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 19:45
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Geddy wins in all fields. Check out those bass lines on Freewill, especially the instrumental/ solo section: 3:10! How can you even focus on Alex's solo when you have grooves like that?  ------------- 
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