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Topic: Robert Fripp Quits Music Over Rights Fight
Posted By: Lima96
Subject: Robert Fripp Quits Music Over Rights Fight
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 20:38

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Robert Fripp Quit Music Over Rights Fight

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Fightin Fripp: Robert to focus on logal battle

Robert Fripp says his legal battle against Universal Music Group has rendered his musical career “an exercise in futility” – and that’s why he’s given it up.

The King Crimson mainman has been embroiled in a rights fight with the giant label for five years, leading to his abandonment of music-making, with no certainty he’ll return.

He’s furious over the way in which Universal has bought up a series of independent labels that own parts of his back-catalogue, and believes it’s led to the release of unauthorised and unaccounted works under his name.

He cites the example of rapper Kanye West’s single Power, based on Crimson’s classic track 21st Century Schizoid Man – which had been heard over a million times on YouTube before he was even asked whether the sample could be used.

Fripp tells  http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/f588e100-d7ee-11e1-9980-00144feabdc0.html" rel="nofollow - FT.com : “I couldn’t concentrate on music, so I made the choice to give up my career as a musician in the frontline to deal with the business.”

He says the arrangement between artist and label has “moved from a symbiotic relationship to a parasitic relationship.”

His last live outings were in 2009 when he performed with wife Toyah Willcox’s band the Humans and toured with Theo Travis to support the duo’s Threads album. Last year saw the release of his collaboration with Jakko Jakszyk and Mel Collins, entitled A Scarcity Of Miracles. Since then he’s ended his involvement with creative projects.

Fripp says: “Going back to early King Crimson, the remarkable explosion of the creative impulse came from these young men who didn’t know what they were doing, yet were able to do it.

“What has changed in 40 years? It’s very simple: 40 years ago there was a market economy. Today there is a market society – today everything, including ethics, has a price.”

But that doesn’t mean Fripp’s fight is all about money. He says: “Music is a language in which we can express our struggle with what it is to be a human being. This is at the centre of what created King Crimson.

“Today I remain responsible for that. How can I lie to that? If I do, I cease to be human.”

Fripp’s own label DGMlive will release a 40th anniversary edition of King Crimson album Larks’ Tongues in Aspic on October 15. It will be available as a CD/DVD package, a double-CD pack and a 15-disc box set limited to 7000 units.

Very sad news indeed CryCryCryCry




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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 21:09
Stupid reason to quit, though no where near as bad as Collins.

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 21:11
Then Fripp is a sellout of a different sort, is he not?

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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 21:19
Robert Fripp has a musical career these days?

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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 21:23
he should come out of retirement with Bruford and form The League of Retired Crimson Gentleman---


Posted By: Lima96
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 21:36
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

he should come out of retirement with Bruford and form The League of Retired Crimson Gentlemen---
LOL


Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 22:20
Why do I get the strange feeling that one of these days, Fripp's gonna do with his art what Frank Zappa's estate recently did with his? That is, halt the release of his stuff until he can get a much better grip on the rights.

As for him retiring, it's not that much of a loss for the world. He hasn't really done anything interesting since the 80's and listening to some samples of King Crimson's work from Thrak onwards hasn't changed my opinion. Kind of dropped the ball on the whole "any artist worthy of the name disbands" thing. Oh well.


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 22:58
Happens day in and day out in the music biz......not a reason to quit making music. Sounds like he just needs a break to refuel whatever creative juices went dry.......
 
I agree...reform King Crimson and go back to square one before people forget why he even plays music.


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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 23:20
Originally posted by Robert Fripp Robert Fripp wrote:

“What has changed in 40 years? It’s very simple: 40 years ago there was a market economy. Today there is a market society – today everything, including ethics, has a price.”


Quoted for truth.


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 23:23
I have the power to believe that he'll return to making fantastic music, hopefully as King Crimson.
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 23:26
^Off topic, but your avatar is hilarious. 

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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 23:28
" rel="nofollow">Why thank you.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 23:35
Of course he'll never quit making music, and recording and...yes...maybe even selling it!   As KC or not--  remember Discipline was originally a project independent of Crimson.   What's odd is why he hasn't just fully embraced self-production.  There isn't really a "music business" anymore.  You either see the money you make or you don't.  His rant seems increasingly whiny.



Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 06:13
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Of course he'll never quit making music, and recording and...yes...maybe even selling it!   As KC or not--  remember Discipline was originally a project independent of Crimson.   What's odd is why he hasn't just fully embraced self-production.  There isn't really a "music business" anymore.  You either see the money you make or you don't.  His rant seems increasingly whiny.

I think it is sad that a man can't fight to protect his own intellectual property without being accused of being "whiny". Fripp continues to bang on about this because the situation has not resolved itself. I applaud his fight with the record companies and his resilience and above all his consistency.
Certainly if you had an uninsured family heirloom, say a painting, that was stolen and sold on and on, you wouldn't just give up trying to retrieve it even if it was difficult and costly, unless you didn't have the resources or the stomach for confrontation. This man does and that is good.


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 07:03
If I were Fripp I'd do the same. Unfortunately I'm not Ermm

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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 07:15
Kudos to Bob for taking a stand (albeit a futile one) I guess. I wouldn't pretend to be a lawyer or anything but:
He’s furious over the way in which Universal has bought up a series of independent labels that own parts of his back-catalogue, and believes it’s led to the release of unauthorised and unaccounted works under his name.

This might sound glib, given the dubiety of the quoted source but if such entities do own this material, don't they have the right to sell it to whoever they like?


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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 07:27
Nope because most of those labels do not have the digital rights to Fripps music but release it anyway then take years to think about taking it down.
 
This is old news, Fripp's last Crimson album was 2003 (I'm not counting Fripp, Jakszyk, Collins, which was not KC) and last tour was 2008.
 
He's been fighting this fight ever since EGM (I think) screwed him over.  It's just on  on going battle he'll never win.
 
Personally I'm enjoying his side project like the Ambient soundscape stuff he continues to release with Theo Travis.


Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 11:35
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

 

I think it is sad that a man can't fight to protect his own intellectual property without being accused of being "whiny". Fripp continues to bang on about this because the situation has not resolved itself. I applaud his fight with the record companies and his resilience and above all his consistency.
Certainly if you had an uninsured family heirloom, say a painting, that was stolen and sold on and on, you wouldn't just give up trying to retrieve it even if it was difficult and costly, unless you didn't have the resources or the stomach for confrontation. This man does and that is good.
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There is a valid business end to music and a parasitic one.  Our friend Fripp is fighting the parasites.  It is about getting the royalties for his work, and having control over how his work is distributed and released.  I hope he is merely taking a hiatus rather than retiring, even if at the current moment he cannot see creating more music.


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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 13:07
Yeah. I'm not exactly sympathetic. If the only thing keeping him from quitting was a miserly ownership of recordings, then that probably explains why his music's become so banal.


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 13:44
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Of course he'll never quit making music, and recording and...yes...maybe even selling it!   As KC or not--  remember Discipline was originally a project independent of Crimson.   What's odd is why he hasn't just fully embraced self-production.  There isn't really a "music business" anymore.  You either see the money you make or you don't.  His rant seems increasingly whiny.

I think it is sad that a man can't fight to protect his own intellectual property without being accused of being "whiny". Fripp continues to bang on about this because the situation has not resolved itself. I applaud his fight with the record companies and his resilience and above all his consistency.
Certainly if you had an uninsured family heirloom, say a painting, that was stolen and sold on and on, you wouldn't just give up trying to retrieve it even if it was difficult and costly, unless you didn't have the resources or the stomach for confrontation. This man does and that is good.

Absolutely agree. He has been very consistent in his fight over many years now. It is why he formed the Discipline label in the first place.


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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 14:18
More of Bob's BS I'm afraid.  He said the same thing to me in a record store during his "Drive to 1981" tour, and he's been very consistent about this.  

So his tunes have been ripped off....like, that's new in prog?  Ask John Goodsall of Brand X, who tells me he AND Percy Jones were royally screwed by Phil Collins & the label for all their work with Brand X.  Patrick Moraz was fleeced with Yes as well.  

Forty years ago, the record company execs used to give the artists all the cocaine they wanted & then had them sign lots of forms in front of lawyers.  It was a nasty place, which is why I stayed away completely.  Music is my hobby, no more. 

Quite honestly, Fripp should team up with Kanye West!  Man, he'd get attention then!!  "Old white British dude reinvigorates the world of rap with his synth-guitar loops and soaring leads."   It would be pretty amazing.  




Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 15:45
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:


Quite honestly, Fripp should team up with Kanye West!  Man, he'd get attention then!!  "Old white British dude reinvigorates the world of rap with his synth-guitar loops and soaring leads."   It would be pretty amazing.  




Their butting of heads would be more entertaining than whatever music they could produce. 


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Posted By: freyacat
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 16:06
I have followed Robert Fripp's long Cold War with the Music Industry for twenty years now.
I think he has a lot of relevant points to make, but in the end, he seems like Don Quixote, jousting at windmills.
I thought that the formation of DGM was a creative response, and I supported all of those releases.
Endlessly obsessing over the theft of ages-old property, however, seems like a waste of energy.
RF speaks of a rich spirituality in so many ways, but in this area I wish he would save himself some grief, walk away, and try to enjoy what is left of life.


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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 17:57
I agree with Fripp's beef about the ownership of his music.  But he signed the contracts when they were offered (not that he had much choice back then).  He should just walk away from it, especially if he receives any royalties from the use.
 
His logic fails when he says he is quitting from making music over this.  He now owns his own label, and all rights to any new music he makes.  He is only hurting himself and his own business by ceasing to provide new product.  If he wants to quit.  Fine.  That's his choice.  But as a protest against his older catalog being misused, the protest falls flat.


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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 18:14
Originally posted by freyacat freyacat wrote:

I have followed Robert Fripp's long Cold War with the Music Industry for twenty years now.
I think he has a lot of relevant points to make, but in the end, he seems like Don Quixote, jousting at windmills.
I thought that the formation of DGM was a creative response, and I supported all of those releases.
Endlessly obsessing over the theft of ages-old property, however, seems like a waste of energy.
RF speaks of a rich spirituality in so many ways, but in this area I wish he would save himself some grief, walk away, and try to enjoy what is left of life.

Agree--well said---everyone knows the music business sucks---this is old news---you have to adapt and reinvent yourself--which he used to be good at----in the meantime sell your music on i tunes!!


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 19:20
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Stupid reason to quit, though no where near as bad as Collins.

My first thought, too.  I'm not sure what you are getting at with collins though.

If Fripp doesn't do new music for the pleasure of making it and/or sharing what he makes, why bother?   I'd rather enjoy the old inspired bits rather than having him put new stuff out just for the sake of putting it out.  I suspect he's still playing but not interested in sharing what he's creating.


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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 19:37
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Stupid reason to quit, though no where near as bad as Collins.

My first thought, too.  I'm not sure what you are getting at with collins though.

If Fripp doesn't do new music for the pleasure of making it and/or sharing what he makes, why bother?   I'd rather enjoy the old inspired bits rather than having him put new stuff out just for the sake of putting it out.  I suspect he's still playing but not interested in sharing what he's creating.

In an interview he did with Rolling Stone he mentioned that a major force of making him quit was being called the "anti christ of music" and the changes that happened to Genesis during his leadership. 
All in all he quit music because he couldn't handle criticism. 


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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 21:17
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Stupid reason to quit, though no where near as bad as Collins.

My first thought, too.  I'm not sure what you are getting at with collins though.

If Fripp doesn't do new music for the pleasure of making it and/or sharing what he makes, why bother?   I'd rather enjoy the old inspired bits rather than having him put new stuff out just for the sake of putting it out.  I suspect he's still playing but not interested in sharing what he's creating.

In an interview he did with Rolling Stone he mentioned that a major force of making him quit was being called the "anti christ of music" and the changes that happened to Genesis during his leadership. 
All in all he quit music because he couldn't handle criticism. 
 
I made Phil Collins quit?  Now I feel special.


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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 22:56
I saw this on another site. It's either King Fripp's way or the highway. Wink

I suppose I can't really blame him. I wonder what he will do now though. Write a book? I wonder if he will still listen to music. Tongue


Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 23:46
The older RF gets, the crabbier.  His music has been file-shared/ripped/copied so many times, it is basically in the public realm anyway. 

BTW, he was paid for generating the various OS sounds for Windows "Vista," why doesn't he complain about that too? 

It's a nasty business, Bob.  All business is nasty.  If you don't like it, I feel sorry for you, you should have been a postman like your mother wanted you to be.  


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 07 2012 at 08:42
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

The older RF gets, the crabbier.  His music has been file-shared/ripped/copied so many times, it is basically in the public realm anyway. 

BTW, he was paid for generating the various OS sounds for Windows "Vista," why doesn't he complain about that too? 

It's a nasty business, Bob.  All business is nasty.  If you don't like it, I feel sorry for you, you should have been a postman like your mother wanted you to be.  

Then all he'd have to moan about would be the sh*t hours, pay freeze on top of sh*t pay anyway, pension contributions upped, working longer, and getting less!Shift+R improves the quality of this image. Shift+A improves the quality of all images on this page. 


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 07 2012 at 11:27
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

The older RF gets, the crabbier.  His music has been file-shared/ripped/copied so many times, it is basically in the public realm anyway. 

BTW, he was paid for generating the various OS sounds for Windows "Vista," why doesn't he complain about that too? 

It's a nasty business, Bob.  All business is nasty.  If you don't like it, I feel sorry for you, you should have been a postman like your mother wanted you to be.  

Then all he'd have to moan about would be the sh*t hours, pay freeze on top of sh*t pay anyway, pension contributions upped, working longer, and getting less!Shift+R improves the quality of this image. Shift+A improves the quality of all images on this page. 

I can totally identify with being older and getting crabbier. LOL

Fripp has the luxury of living well even if he never releases any new music.  He does seem like the guy who enjoys playing for the sake of it rather than feeling the need to play to an audience.



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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: September 08 2012 at 13:42
Injustice is all over the place everywhere around us. Squealing about it and fighting it is right, but surrendering to it doesn't make anything better.


Posted By: moodyxadi
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 15:30
Man, I like King Crimson a lot but his new wave band Discipline... Total heartless music.

Listened to The wine of Silence another day. What a boring experience, JC. 

When we get old our energy just sinks and we should retire for our own benefit. Almost anything he made after 'Heroes" are unimportant to the music world even when you consider that he was one of the masterminds that defined a decade on pop music. Unfortunately he was irrelevant for a long time before "quiting". It's sad but only few artists can be as productive and relevant like David Bowie but even him had to stop. Anyway, good luck in your fight against our market society and thanx for the great 70's music.


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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 05:27
Originally posted by moodyxadi moodyxadi wrote:

Man, I like King Crimson a lot but his new wave band Discipline... Total heartless music.

Listened to The wine of Silence another day. What a boring experience, JC. 

When we get old our energy just sinks and we should retire for our own benefit. Almost anything he made after 'Heroes" are unimportant to the music world even when you consider that he was one of the masterminds that defined a decade on pop music. Unfortunately he was irrelevant for a long time before "quiting". It's sad but only few artists can be as productive and relevant like David Bowie but even him had to stop. Anyway, good luck in your fight against our market society and thanx for the great 70's music.

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 10:34
Hi,
 
(Soap Box Mode!)
 
This is not going to sound right to some ... but in many ways ... I can not feel sorry for him, or his group!
 
They should have stopped and "quit" 30 years ago ... not this year! Instead, these folks have added to their money making stealing ... and if you think that music is bad, you have not seen, or have any idea ... it's even worse at the movies, where you are the cheap labor all the time!
 
I first heard about this in 1975 or 1976 ... and it was around the Firesign Theater and one of their close friends, trying to tell them NOT to re-sign with Columbia ... but they were afraid to take on their own ... everything.
 
IF, Robert, cared for his work, he would have fought this sooner ... but then, the English way and market allows for Mr. Blue Balls that Fly to rip off Tangerine Dream, Gong, Genesis and so many other folks ... and no one gives a merde, and they give him awards and put him on television, when he should be in jail!
 
Until the day that system in England of keeping people slaves to the lords of the empire, folks like Robert will get ripped off ... and he already knew that ... when he started ... !!!
 
All in all, this is where a lot of musicians need to step back, but you don't see Paul Mac helping, you don't see Mick helping, you don't see Elton helping, and that tells you what the hippocrisy is all about! These folks would stand to gain less money!
 
And if you think he has issues, you have not seen the Frank Zappa issues with this ... and Gayle is still fighting for it ... a losing battle, because the country is for the rich, by the rich to rip off everyone else ... and the day that stops, everyone will call it "socialism", or "communism".
 
So much for democracy!
 
Sorry Robert ... I love your work, but it's time to tell England to shove it! But you have to take over your own business, not anyone else!  In case you have not noticed, it is the number ONE reason why "progressive" and "prog" have survived! ...
 
(Soap Box Mode Off!)


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Posted By: Ally Carter
Date Posted: November 22 2012 at 08:29
One of the things that always greatly impressed me about Robert Fripp, Roy Harper and Mark Hollis is their uncompromising integrity.

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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: November 22 2012 at 08:51
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
(Soap Box Mode!)
 
This is not going to sound right to some ... but in many ways ... I can not feel sorry for him, or his group!
 
They should have stopped and "quit" 30 years ago ... not this year! Instead, these folks have added to their money making stealing ... and if you think that music is bad, you have not seen, or have any idea ... it's even worse at the movies, where you are the cheap labor all the time!
 
I first heard about this in 1975 or 1976 ... and it was around the Firesign Theater and one of their close friends, trying to tell them NOT to re-sign with Columbia ... but they were afraid to take on their own ... everything.
 
IF, Robert, cared for his work, he would have fought this sooner ... but then, the English way and market allows for Mr. Blue Balls that Fly to rip off Tangerine Dream, Gong, Genesis and so many other folks ... and no one gives a merde, and they give him awards and put him on television, when he should be in jail!
 
Until the day that system in England of keeping people slaves to the lords of the empire, folks like Robert will get ripped off ... and he already knew that ... when he started ... !!!
 
All in all, this is where a lot of musicians need to step back, but you don't see Paul Mac helping, you don't see Mick helping, you don't see Elton helping, and that tells you what the hippocrisy is all about! These folks would stand to gain less money!
 
And if you think he has issues, you have not seen the Frank Zappa issues with this ... and Gayle is still fighting for it ... a losing battle, because the country is for the rich, by the rich to rip off everyone else ... and the day that stops, everyone will call it "socialism", or "communism".
 
So much for democracy!
 
Sorry Robert ... I love your work, but it's time to tell England to shove it! But you have to take over your own business, not anyone else!  In case you have not noticed, it is the number ONE reason why "progressive" and "prog" have survived! ...
 
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Posted By: sturoc
Date Posted: November 29 2012 at 19:01
Well knowing what he wrote/spoke about his philosophies back in the late 70s  about music and life I can understand the decision.
BUT to say your quitting music altogether is kinda BS .
When your a musician you will always be a musician regardless of whether one stops playing for a year or 10 or the rest of your life.
It's always in you.

So for our man Robert :
Regretful ? I think so.
Whiny ?  a bit.

And maybe this fight consumes him to the point of draining all creativity.
I can understand that somewhat.
As mentioned in other posts, Yes he let it get away from him. Sad, just another old story about how an artist thru miscalculation/ ignorance / stupidity gets shafted by the big boys.
He'll spend more time and money ( whatever $ he has left) to fight and in the end will come out no better.
You can't win against the big boys unless there is a royal contract screw up.
I hope he doesn't wind up a pauper by going thru years of this though.

Don't people learn, ever ?



Posted By: Jorvik
Date Posted: November 30 2012 at 07:00
Wasn't Fripp's issue that the record company appropriated rights that he never signed over to them because the technology to exploit/market his band's music in that way didn't exist at the time they signed the contract? Or is this about something entirely different?

It's just that I recall from several years ago (probably read it here) Fripp having a battle with one of the major labels over them digitising his music and putting it on places like iTunes. His argument was that they didn't have his permission, they'd just assumed the right to do that because they already had the rights to distribute Crimson's music on vinyl, tape and more recently CD. I assume the battle he mentions is a continuation of this, or is he quitting over something else entirely?

Plus I fail to see what any of Fripp's troubles (real or imagined) with the global music business have to do with the perceived faults of British society. I doubt UK-based musicians are treated significantly worse by record labels here than they are by subsidiaries of the same global companies in other countries.


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