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Topic: prog artist’s peak year
Posted By: greenback
Subject: prog artist’s peak year
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 12:04

sometimes it is very easy to identify a peak year for an artist:

phil collins on drums - 1976

jurgen fritz (triumvirat) on keyboards - 1975

 

any others?

 



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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 12:08

Dream Theater- '89-'05



Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 13:11

Keith Emerson 1972 or 1973

Steve Howe (solo) 1979 with Yes 1971



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Posted By: AtomHeartMother
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 14:40
Gilmour- 1975-77, these are the years where Gilmour could really jam in his own unique and orriginal way during a concert and used his skills to improve thier two best albums, Wish you were here and Animals. His guitaring was deffinetly best during this time.

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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 15:13

Disagree with Steve Howe & 1971 - for christs' sake they released Fragile and CttE 1972, two of the most successful and innovative prog rock albums!!



Posted By: nimrodel
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 15:42

porcupine tree at 21th century.



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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 15:44
Gentle Giant 1973 (damn three and four for being right next to each other).

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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 16:55

For me: Rick Wakeman in 1977, in the Mountain Studios. 

He did Going For The One, White Rock and Criminal Record in that year, in those studios.



Posted By: Leo Karmev
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 17:24

Robert Fripp in 1974

Bill Brufford in 1974

John Wetton in 1974

 



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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 17:40
Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

Disagree with Steve Howe & 1971 - for christs' sake they released Fragile and CttE 1972, two of the most successful and innovative prog rock albums!!

yes, but on those albums he shares much of the spotlight with Rick Wakeman.

he really gets his time to shine on The Yes Album



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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 19:39
Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

For me: Rick Wakeman in 1977, in the Mountain Studios. 

He did Going For The One, White Rock and Criminal Record in that year, in those studios.

good call, but i find white rock a bit less good.

and was it a peak or just that he modernized his keyboards? i have in mind 6 wives of henry 8.



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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 19:47

i think it would be hard to define Rush's peak year, with all their ups and downs and sound changes. i'd guess it would be about '76 or'77(between "2112" and "A Farewell to Kings") or possibly whenever "Moving Pictures" was released.



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Posted By: CrazyDiamond
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 19:54

Camel (in particular Andy Latimer) from "CAMEL" to "MIRAGE"

 

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Posted By: Publius
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 21:01

Well I think all of the original great prog bands (the ones we all know and love) were in their prime until 1977, when they released their last truly great album. Think about it. Yes had Going For The One (Followed by Tormato, with a different line-up - crap album.) Then Genesis had Wind & Wuthering (Last album with Steve Hackett. In 1980 they turned to pop.). Pink Floyd had Animals (Followed by the terrifyingly successful The Wall)... ELP released their final ideas on Works 1 and 2. It all makes sense. Something must have deliberately killed great prog in 1977.

Was it Star Wars?



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Posted By: yesman72
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 21:42

Yes 1972

 



Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 21:47

Genesis - 1973

King Crimson - 73-74

Gentle Giant - 72-76

Yes - 1972

ELP - 1973

Pink Floyd - 73-77

Dream Theater - 92-94

Symphony X - 97-02

Supertramp - 1974

Jethro Tull - 72-73

VDGG - 70-75

Mike Oldfield - 73-78



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Posted By: MANTICORE
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 23:31
SUPERTRAMP ON THE CRIME OF THE CENTURY ERA.!

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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 23:41
Originally posted by Publius Publius wrote:

Well I think all of the original great prog bands (the ones we all know and love) were in their prime until 1977, when they released their last truly great album. Think about it. Yes had Going For The One (Followed by Tormato, with a different line-up - crap album.) Then Genesis had Wind & Wuthering (Last album with Steve Hackett. In 1980 they turned to pop.). Pink Floyd had Animals (Followed by the terrifyingly successful The Wall)... ELP released their final ideas on Works 1 and 2. It all makes sense. Something must have deliberately killed great prog in 1977.

Was it Star Wars?

we all know what happened 1977-1980........



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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: July 20 2005 at 23:49

Rush is a toughie, because each member has his own year.

Neil Peart 2002 when Vapor Trails was released, Neil Peart overcame quite a bit.

Geddy Lee 1980 with all of his best tracks on Moving Pictures that one seems obvious.

Alex Lifeson either 1977 or 1978, Hemispheres and A Farewell To Kings showcase albums.



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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 21 2005 at 00:12

Moogtron III wrote:

Quote For me: Rick Wakeman in 1977, in the Mountain Studios. 

He did Going For The One, White Rock and Criminal Record in that year, in those studios.

 I disagree, IMO Rick Wakeman  best years are 72 - 75 (Six Wives, Journey, Myths and Legends- Fragile, Close to the Edge, Yessongs)

Iván

 



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Posted By: SirPsycho388
Date Posted: July 21 2005 at 00:34

Rush: 1976-1981 (78*)

Yes: 1971-1974 (72*)

Genesis: 1972-1974 (73*)

Tull: 1971-1972 (72*)

Kansas: 1976-1977 (76*)

Pink Floyd: 1973-1977 (73*)

Dream Theater: 1992-1995... then 1999 (99*)

 



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Posted By: khalpin
Date Posted: July 21 2005 at 08:52

I'd say Steve Howe peaked in 1974 on Relayer.  He's said that it's his favorite album, as did White.

Wakeman '72

Anderson - too tough to call, he was pretty much perfect for 7 years straight.

Squire - I'd say '77, but that's just because, with the GftO studio sessions video, you can actually see how much he's bringing to the table when you can hear his vocals singled out instead of masked by Anderson.

I'll agree with video vertigo on the Rush members, except Moving Pictures was 1981.

Dream Theater - 1999 



Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: July 21 2005 at 09:26

At last I had the chance of being original:

Vangelis

1971-1973 (preparation date): 666

and

1975: Heaven and Hell



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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 21 2005 at 09:42
Originally posted by greenback greenback wrote:

Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

For me: Rick Wakeman in 1977, in the Mountain Studios. 

He did Going For The One, White Rock and Criminal Record in that year, in those studios.

good call, but i find white rock a bit less good.

and was it a peak or just that he modernized his keyboards? i have in mind 6 wives of henry 8.

I agree with you to a certain extent about White Rock, and I guess that's because of the compositions. Still, 1977 is my favourite Wakeman year, because I really love his contributions to Going For The One and Criminal Record... and also to White Rock, because of an element which I can't really describe well. Maybe it has to do with the modernisation of his keyboards. That could be so. It's hard for me to found it. Still, there's something else in his keyboard playing in that year. Something glorious? Like being on the top of the world? Well, I've reached the limits of explanation  . Can't get it from sujective to inter-subjective, let alone objective. I rest my case  , if I use this expression correctly .

 



Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 21 2005 at 09:44
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

Moogtron III wrote:

Quote For me: Rick Wakeman in 1977, in the Mountain Studios. 

He did Going For The One, White Rock and Criminal Record in that year, in those studios.

 I disagree, IMO Rick Wakeman  best years are 72 - 75 (Six Wives, Journey, Myths and Legends- Fragile, Close to the Edge, Yessongs)

Iván

 

I can understand that very well. I like Rick's contributions to those albums too. It's just, for some reason, 1977 is my favourite Wakeman year. Hard to defend, and very subjective...



Posted By: bityear
Date Posted: July 21 2005 at 11:02
Originally posted by Leo Karmev Leo Karmev wrote:

Robert Fripp in 1974

Bill Brufford in 1974

John Wetton in 1974

 





Same year for Genesis.

Dream Theater - 05!!

Jethro Tull - 03!!


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Posted By: Cygnus
Date Posted: July 29 2005 at 08:59

Rush´s peak would be from 2112 to moving pictures. All the releases were true masterpieces.

Then I would count Counterparts too



Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: July 29 2005 at 09:38

1972 was a great year for prog-rock. Let's see:

  • Foxtrot
  • Close to the Edge
  • Obscured by Clouds
  • Trilogy
  • Focus 3
  • Thick as a Brick

Only "Obscured by Clouds" could not be considered as an artistic peak, but otherwise is a great album.




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