Mirage vs Space Shanty
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Topic: Mirage vs Space Shanty
Posted By: friso
Subject: Mirage vs Space Shanty
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 05:02
| Two rockin' prog favorites of mine. Both have a nod to Canterbury, some spacey aspects, great solo's and a brilliant sound. |
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 05:13
Two total blowout albums, two Canterbury classics (Yes, I said it, I also consider Camel a default Canterbury band!  )... But I chose `Mirage' because the main vocals by Nick Greenwood on `Khan' are a little stuffy and forced, kind of sounds like he's trying to sound like Ozzy Osbourne in places! On the other hand, Camel have Andy Latimar's pleasantly bland but charming vocals, but I'd rather have those any day over the Khan ones! But seriously, can't go wrong with either album! |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 05:35
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The Khan's only album has made a myth of this band, but I love Latimer & co too much and Mirage has been my first Camel's album, listened on a small portable tape in a desert land at 40°C and in a particular mental state. So my vote goes to Mirage and its Nimrodel and Lady Fantasy ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 06:22
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Don't like Camel at all, love the Khan album though.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 06:31
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Both are fine, but I vote for Khan. ------------- 
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Posted By: Einsetumadur
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 06:40
Finally someone who also regards "Mirage" as a Canterbury-type album. Fine!  Although both are great I'll stick to "Space Shanty" because of Dave Stewart's great Hammond organ. A great reminder to listen to this album once again. ------------- All in all each man in all men |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 07:39
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Mirage by a mile. One of my favorite albums. the Khan album is just okay for me.
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 08:04
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Space Shanty by quite a margin for me, fantastic album. Mirage is just ok, but it has Freefall, which is a great song. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 08:44
| Mirage is Camel's best, but still - Khan. |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 10:20
Camel didn't have a clue where Canterbury was, I can assure you. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 10:25
Apart of being born there? Well, not exactly in Canterbury but I think close enough.
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 11:04
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Mirage by far. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 11:11
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Difficult choice! I went with the underdog this time. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 11:51
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mirage. For whatever reason SS never resonated with me. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 11:55
I'm pretty sure that two were born in Guildford, Surrey or somewhere very close (Latimer and Ward) Bardens was definitely from London and I'm pretty sure Doug Ferguson was born in Carlisle.
Now exactly which of those places is Canterbury (or even near!)?
They formed and played almost entirely in London in their formative years (as The Brew and in the embroynic Camel) and had no links whatsoever with Canterbury.
The Canterbury bands are so called because that was their home town or because they lived there for extended periods - like Caravan did. Camel have no connection with Canterbury at all - except for some members of Caravan joining them later. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 12:47
I currently live in Rome, Italy. For me Guildford is close enough to Cambridge.. . ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 12:49
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More seriously, I agree about Camel in Symphonic prog more than in Canterbury, but I'd do the same with Caravan. ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 12:56
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Space Shanty, by a hair. -------------  
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 13:04
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I don't know about the geography, but in terms of pure sound, Mirage is symphonic, whereas Moonmadness is Canterbury. The Snow Goose is in a subgenre all by itself.. Also, I haven't heard Space Shanty so no vote. ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 13:15
Wha? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 13:20
You heard me. -------------
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 13:27
------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 13:31
I'm with you on this one.... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 13:36
I guess I'm just deaf, then.  For some reason it always sounds like Caravan and Hatfield to me.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 13:38
Not to me...at all.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 13:39
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Put Mirage up against pretty much anything and I'll vote for it. I like Space Shanty, I should listen to it more. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 14:50
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Kahn is enormously overrated and dated. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 14:58
Space Shanty by quite a bit, though I haven't listened to it in a while. I've never liked Mirage and I still don't. 
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Posted By: Ytse_Jam
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 16:52
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 17:12
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Logan is not alone in thinking Camel is Canterbury, at least in many respects.
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 17:25
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I've always considered Camel a default Canterbury band due to the style they play in, especially those early albums with all the gorgeous fuzzy organ and melodic bass, etc I know many consider the Canterbury bands are only the ones from that particular area, not the ones that embrace that musical style and play in a similar way. But I don't want to get into `a thing' here!
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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 18:22
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Camel!!! ------------- Sonorous Meal show every Sunday at 20:00 (greek time) on http://www.justincaseradio.com |
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 19:51
| I'm not exaggerating when I say that this is toughest album vs. album poll I've encountered here on PA. Both of these albums are in my top 5 of all time, I just can't choose one over the other. No vote. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 19:55
Lacks the quirky melodies and has too much guitar. In my opinion. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 08:16
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Camel's Mirage.
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 08:27
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Khan gets my vote and Camel is pure symphonic to me .... no signs of Canterbury that I can see ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: September 27 2012 at 08:30
| I prefer Mirage, a very powerful album, and one of Camel's best, but I enjoy listening to Space Shanty as well. |